haeckerfelix,
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So folks, don't forget to check if your Ikea chair is compatible with your screen. I'm not kidding. A thread 🧵.

I've had the problem with my new screen for several weeks now, that every now and then the screen goes black for a few seconds.

Today I had enough and wanted to investigate the problem. So I started changing all the cables, plugging the screen into a different socket, and and and. Nothing helped.

haeckerfelix,
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The only correlation I could find was that the screen only goes off when my Ikea office chair is somehow involved.

So I suspected a loose contact somewhere. But no. No matter how much I wiggled the table/cables, everything was fine.

The problem was only there when I sat down or stood up, although the chair didn't even touch the table.

haeckerfelix,
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That was the moment I had my doubts. So I got another chair and tested it with it. No problem, screen stays on.

Took the Ikea "MARKUS" chair again, sat down - screen went off again.

HUH?! My chair has a feature that automatically turns screens on/off? I guess nice privacy feature?

haeckerfelix,
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I started to lose faith and couldn't find a logical explanation. So I searched the internet for "ikea markus chair screen problems" 🤦‍♂️

WAIT! I am not the only one with this problem!? Found the following (German) forum post:

https://www.computerbase.de/forum/threads/hauptmonitor-wird-sporadisch-kurz-schwarz.2060771/

haeckerfelix,
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It turns out that the fabric seat cover, and/or the gas suspension creates such a strong electrostatic discharge (ESD) that my screen shuts off for a short time.

The solution? No idea yet, but it seems that insulating the chair with copper foil and connecting it to a socket (ground) might help. 🤦‍♂️

Welcome to 2023 - Your Ikea "MARKUS" chair is not compatible with your screen 👏

(Not my chair, the picture is from the forum post)

amxmln,
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@haeckerfelix wait, what? 😳😅

I have the same issue! With a different chair, not from IKEA and only my main screen (the secondary one is identical though) shuts off randomly sometimes. Thought my GPU was bad or something, never could've thought it might be linked to the chair. 😅

haeckerfelix,
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@amxmln Is it possible that your second monitor is connected via DisplayPort?

I have the feeling that DisplayPort is more "sensitive" than HDMI in that regard.

amxmln,
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@haeckerfelix My primary screen (the one which shuts off) is plugged in via HDMI and the secondary (which remains on) via Display Port—but the secondary screen is further away from my chair than the primary one. 🤔

I’ll keep an eye on whether or not I can reliably reproduce it now that I know it might be the chair. 😊

autiomaa,
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@amxmln @haeckerfelix HDMI seems to be more sensitive to interference. I have two external displays on a laptop, and only of of those gets blanked frequently. Larger display has longer cable, so that might be part of the reason why it's more sensitive to any issues. Maybe better cable quality might reduce part of the issues, as some of the thinner cables don't have that much insulation.

But seriously, the chair is likely to the blame, not the cables. Floor covering might also matter a bit, too?

Htaggert,

@autiomaa @amxmln @haeckerfelix that whole thing is just Wow! I would not have figured out the connection! Luckily for tre past 7 years I’ve relied on a Yoga ball for computer seating.

amxmln,
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@Htaggert that's the way to go. 🤣👌

tonyarkles,
b,

@amxmln @haeckerfelix Same here, only my main screen is affected. I also have dual-screen and both are connected with top-notch Club3D DP cables. Doesn't help against the Zeus-like power of the IKEA Markus with fabric, obviously... :<

robryk,
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@haeckerfelix I don't think you need to connect it to the ground; connecting appropriate two parts of the chair together should suffice. I would expect that the chair is not discharging any if that charge into air (it didn't have any spiky parts after all).

MindPersephone,

@haeckerfelix huh an entirely new version of "problem exists between chair and keyboard"

mmu_man,
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@haeckerfelix eh, one of my external screens turns off for .5s when I turn on the light next to it, or sometimes when my fridge starts…

vivia,

@haeckerfelix Oh yes, there's a white paper about this issue. https://emcesd.com/pdf/eos93.pdf

lanodan,
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robbystk,
lanodan,
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@robbystk @haeckerfelix Haha, IIRC there's a very similar story in https://suricrasia.online/iceberg/

totoroot,

@lanodan How did I not know about this site?!
So many nuggets on there 😂💀

irgendwienet,
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jimmac,
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@haeckerfelix Herman Miller EMP

timbray,
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@haeckerfelix I wonder what the electromagnetic effects are doing to your genitals?

adzetko,

@haeckerfelix there is a 10mins video about this exact problem encountered by a French streamer: he tries and experiments things, and he watches other people having the same problem
https://youtu.be/PLs2ibJf6jo?si=O_H1Fu03mCriWV-C

tcwillis,

@haeckerfelix makes me nostalgic for the “Internet of Shit” account I used to follow on twitter.

MortenBay,

@haeckerfelix Just wrote about this on a popular Danish consumer tech site 😃 https://www.recordere.dk/2023/04/populaer-ikea-stol-fik-skaerm-til-at-gaa-i-sort/

johne,
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@haeckerfelix my non ikea office chair does that sometimes too.

peturdainn,
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@haeckerfelix interesting... Got another chair at work and from time to time one of the dual monitors blinks black, now I have to check the chair! WTF

aral,
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@haeckerfelix Haha, wow!

CyrilBrulebois,
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@haeckerfelix @olasd I've been seeing this at home as well; moving from a Dell laptop, its dockstation, and DisplayPort to a different brand/model, without dockstation, and HDMI (with the same screen as before). With an X-chair by Milani.

GayCookie,

Oh my god! I've been facing similar issues with my Ikea chair. Initially, I thought the reason behind it was the ungrounded sockets in my room.

Whenever I try to move the chair after standing up, it's always a bit of a gamble whether I'll get a shock or not from touching the back-leaning part. It's become a bit of a game for me, in a way.

However, since this chair has already given up on me, I'm considering buying a new one. It's reassuring to know that I'm not the only one dealing with these problems. 😆

chumii,

@haeckerfelix I think I got a screen gifted to me thanks to this.
Someone claimed that this screen wouldn't be working correctly anymore and I said I'll take it
Works perfectly fine for me!
They have such an IKEA chair :D

Broke student is thankful!

ososxe,

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  • ratkins,
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    @ososxe @haeckerfelix (Electrical) Potential Exists Between Chair And Keyboard

    apodoxus,
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    @haeckerfelix I love ESD and other EM weirdness... People underestimate what a wild zoo their homes can be. I have these bluetooth headphones that somehow pick up everything, turning things on and off always gives me some static... and I remember I had an old FM radio that was able to notice all kinds of weird shit too.

    dj3ei,
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    @apodoxus
    Medium wave radios (aka AM radios) may pick up noise from electric discharges in their environments, especially if tuned to the "static" (sic!) between stations. These might give you a somewhat sensitive detector.
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