MikaKpk, German

Has anyone ever honestly used nearby share?

If yes, what the heck did you transfer between mobile devices that Bluetooth data rates did not suffice?

MikaKpk,

Doing more research on this reveals that there aren't just two incompatible implementations of this technology yet.

Nah there are at least 3 mainstream implementations (Apple, Google, Microsoft) with Google and MS versions being named almost the same and there is software available for the respective other operating system but you need to manually install software on at least one system if sharing between Android and Windows

And I'm not even counting all the Android flavours that come with yet another incompatible implementation of "find devices via Blutooth, then set up a direct Wifi-Connection between both". At least everything that uses MIUI and Samsung seem to have one yet another one

And why? Because every single implementation is so poor in execution (for the end user) that it isn't device bound but user account bound. So every large tech company that has user accounts wants their own incompatible solution that works only with their own user accounts.

If they'd instead implemented a device discovery in the wifi standard IN THE FIRST PLACE we would just have a one size fits all solution for everyone but apple AS IT SHOULD BE what is this madness

And as usual doing anything on a Desktop Linux requires you to go through a hundred hoops, if anything the Google implementation seems to be possible to use here but also last progress was 2020 lol

MikaKpk,

Also I quickly tried sharing from Windows 10 to Android via Bluetooth, aka the one baseline that we have for this task and I have no idea what some people complained about the share implementation in Windows, it works really well? Right click in Explorer and hit "send to... Bluetooth device"? Yes it throws some ancient Win 7 UI but it works fine for me. Bizarrely the other way round Windows doesn't throw up the "accept/deny" dialogue for an incoming Bluetooth transfer and so it just times out.

kkarhan,
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@MikaKpk yeah.

I remember shit like being needed on .

Meanwhile just works on ...

MikaKpk,

What surprisingly almost none of these supports is a simple file transfer while in the same IPv4 network. Local traffic in a network is almost never monitored by router-bound firewalls and most phone-to-PC transfers of large amounts of photos happen at home while both are in the same local network

Microsofts implementation seems to support it when sharing between two Windows PCs but then once again we've had ways to share between two PCs on the same network ever since networks were invented 🤷

MikaKpk,

And so we're back to the only other baseline that really everyone supports (it seems that its not possible to transfer files via Bluetooth from a non Apple device to an Apple device so not even that works here? But well, both have a Browser and internet acces...) which stupidly enough is often the most reliable solution: Upload to a cloud on device A, immediately download from cloud on device B. And its insane that this is the most workable solution for a surprisingly simple problem that we used to have figured out 20 years ago.

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@MikaKpk yeah.
That's because of Apple's Assholeism!

Otherwise shit like would've never been founded or funded at all!

tries to do a direct connection but it still needs some and is also / and thus bad.

kkarhan,
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@MikaKpk I didn't.

It was faster to use Apps like and just joink files over that way locally if was too slow.

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