@vanitarium in a system that far up it's own arse, external (and by that I mean Scots) voices will never be heard.
There is no point to being there. We have a government. Walk out, and keep all our taxes in Holyrood, cease talking to any UK controlled government department, quango or civil service entity.
Fuck em all. Build a border. Join the EU, adopt the euro. Job done.
Single biggest argument for Scottish independence:
Scotland produces more than 100% of the energy required by Scotland to run everything but people living in Scotland pay 50% more on set electricity charges than London, which takes £billions in tax revenue from Scottish energy production, rebating mere pence in the pound back to Scotland.