ReCursing,
ReCursing avatar

People who play tabletop role-playing games have no social skills. Dude, we sit around and talk with real people for literally hours on end - that is literally what the game is!

Also that Dungeons And Dragons is the only role play game. There are hundreds if not thousands with different themes, focuses, setting, systems and whatever else. DnD is good for high action high fantasy, and if that's your bag that's cool, there's nothing wrong with that. But if you want a renaissance coutly intrigue it is really not!

Shift_,
Shift_ avatar

Hell yeah dude. I've been through heart-wrenching loss and triumphant joys that technically never happened. Yet there's a group of us that experienced it together and are now emotionally richer for it. It's an almost purely social experience that teaches us how to deal with other humans and explore scenarios that the average person would never touch.

D&D and TTRPGs in general should be considered more often when talking about the development of social skills. I've learned a ton about clear and effective communication, how to converse with people I would normally never talk to, and how to be considerate of the feelings/opinions of others while not losing sight of my own.

Also, shiny math rocks go click clack

ReCursing,
ReCursing avatar

Absolutely. Every emotion in a safe environment. I know a few autistic people who play, and one once said something along the lines of it being a social interaction where you can sit down and read the files first!

Plus shiny math rocks go click clack

kill,
kill avatar

i like the lovecraft games

ReCursing,
ReCursing avatar

I've played a few games of Call Of Cthulhu, and one of The Laundry. Both have been fun

windchime,
windchime avatar

The Laundry? As in Charles Stross' Laundry Files series? If so, cool! Didn't know it had a TTRPG.

ReCursing,
ReCursing avatar

Yup. It's fun. The game I was in was short lived but entertaining. It uses the regular CoC system with a few adjustments (e.g. experience comes in the form of training courses) so if you know that it'd be easy to pick up, and if you don't... well it'll still be easy to pick up, tbh

TealKat,
TealKat avatar

Also that Dungeons And Dragons is the only role play game.

Oh man I could go on about this. I almost exclusively run Savage Worlds, and it straight up doesn't get enough love for how versatile it is vs. cramming a fistful of homebrewed rules into D&D.

ReCursing,
ReCursing avatar

I've not had a lot of experience with Savage Worlds, I'd like to play it more tbh. I've only played at starting character level in a couple of one-shots so I've not had a good exposure to it

babelspace,
babelspace avatar

Wish I could find someone with your mindset locally. Just moved to a new city and it’s been easy to find DND campaigns advertised, incredibly hard to find anything else.

ReCursing,
ReCursing avatar

It's a problem. But it happened before when 3rd Ed was released, and wotc have just upset a lot of creators wuth their ogl shenanigans, so I am confident things will change. In the mean time, keep looking, play dnd, and/or run a game yourself.

Teali0,
Teali0 avatar

I am a school psychologist with a master's in clinical psychology. The main misconception for my work is that (at least in my state) school psychologists rarely focus on counseling. Instead, we are writing reports and determining whether a student is eligible or maintains eligibility for special education. I give IQ, academic, and social-emotional tests and write a report. I work with a student for about 3 hours maximum and then I'm alone writing and scheduling meetings. Then, I'm onto the next one.

Most people, even staff in the school, think I am a counselor. I can technically do it, but there already is someone who was hired for that position... so, they should probably do that, and I'll make sure our special education documents are compliant.

brackman1066,

I'm an English professor, and I get a lot of "Oh, I'll have to make sure to use good grammar around you." First, I have better manners than to go around correcting other people.* Second, I know enough about the development of the language to realize how fluid and often artificial the "rules" are.

  • Unless you're trying to mansplain something to me. Then all bets are off.
calmblue75,

The worst thing is they think that they can speak in wrong grammar if they are not around an English teacher/professor.

caffeinePlease,
caffeinePlease avatar

I taught 11th grade English for a few years, I totally understand this.

TooL,

Okay but do you let people get away with not using the oxford comma?

TheMojova,

This applies to many things, but It annoys me when people say that they can't, for example, draw or play an instrument because they have "no talent".

It's not about talent. It's about the hours spent learning.

Entropywins,
Entropywins avatar

I feel that... I had an interest and spent 1,000's of hours practicing

ContentConsumer9999,

But isn't being able to practice regularly a talent of its own?

kosmicpulse,
kosmicpulse avatar

Being in the hospitality industry, my friends and relatives find it cool because all they see is I get to travel and stay in big hotels and resorts.

volodymyr,

I am an astronomer. Some people ask me about horoscopes. I thought we were collectively past that.

ykonstant,

There are tons of misconceptions about mathematics, but the biggest and most baffling one is: that no new mathematics is being created, that the field is "done".

The opposite is true: there are more open problems than ever, and research is frantic in mathematics with hundreds of thousands of serious new theorems being proven every year by professional mathematicians, and entirely new mathematical vistas being discovered every few years.

In fact, the pace of research is so fast that we are now creating the foundations for databases of mathematical theories and their proofs in order to better classify and preserve them.

phill,

This sounds really exciting. Can you share more? Or would it be over the head of a layman?

Aesthesiaphilia,

Yeah but 5th grade math is "done" and that's all most people ever care to even know exists

Evolone,
Evolone avatar

I’m a lawyer. If I had a dollar for every time I have heard “oh you’re a lawyer? You must have been good at arguing when you were a kid”…or that I must be “good at public speaking”.

It’s funny cause I do commercial real estate contracts and business law…I don’t ever go to court. Most of my day is spent staring at a computer and trying to figure out the best way to change three or four words in an obscure contract provision to best protect my client’s monetary interests. I don’t really ever argue in a professional setting, but I have learned how to think differently, how to see things from various perspectives and anticipate all sides of a negotiation and how I’d best respond.

I also can’t stand all the constant “hey can I ask you a legal question” from friends and family. Or friends and family sending me random contracts and asking me to “look it over for them”. It’s like they assume that just because they know me, I can do that for free, when I spend 10-12 hours a day billing large commercial clients for that same type of work.

That leads me to my next pet peeve: people in my life assuming that my “office job” is a simple nine to five. No. I represent clients all over the world so sometimes I am up at 4:30am to get on an international call at 5:00an. Sometimes I’m working late into the night to finalize a big land purchase contract or commercial office lease; sometimes doing that after putting in a full 9 hours at the office. I don’t get paid time off; I can work at my own pace, sure, and take “days off” here and there, but the work and business and the need for legal advice is constant and I have to catch up somehow, sometime whenever I take “time off”.

I know I’m in a privileged position so I feel kind of shitty about complaining about this, but it gets pretty old. I also recognize that I definitely need to figure out a better way to improve my work/life balance…because this won’t be super sustainable for much longer.

Aesthesiaphilia,

About the privileged position thing... I'm a blue collar worker with a massive chip on my shoulder, but the only people I complain about being privileged is people with do-nothing jobs, and people who work from home. When I think lawyer or doctor, I think ridiculous hours and lots of work.

Pisodeuorrior,

I work from home and it's not rare that I pull 12 hours a day, with the occasional 14.

Working from home doesn't mean doing nothing, it just means you don't commute.

Aesthesiaphilia,

Yeah but you can also do laundry, walk the dog, run to the store. You're not on a factory assembly line, there's downtime. And downtime at home is massively different than downtime at work. That's privileged.

Shift_,
Shift_ avatar

Dude, lawyer is literally one of the,"My kid is a big success" jobs. It's privileged because it requires a ton of work and study before you're even allowed to do it. Not to mention the insane amount of work the job itself is.

You earned that money and those days off.

giallo,
giallo avatar

I'm a photographer, I carry a camera around my neck at all times. Very often while I'm outside, I'm asked to take pictures of strangers with their mobile phones. If I'm not in the mood, I simply reject their request but that takes spoons. When I do take their photograph, they look at the screen afterwards and expect something exceptional. It never is. It's still a mobile phone and you are still the same person, what do you expect me to do? Will the perfect light for the scene into existence? I can read the slight disappointment in their face and I just die inside.

CoderKat,
CoderKat avatar

Have you considered buying a large set of spoons at Dollarama? Maybe that will help your spoon shortage? /s

johnthedoe,

Oh god this sums up that feeling so well. Too many times I’ve done so no see them all looking at the phone swiping at all the photos I took while I walk away. Still hurts a bit when you see them try to take a selfie afterwards

kitonthenet,

That programming primarily or typically involves writing large blocks of original code at a time

cloaker,

Not a programer, but in IT. I think most jobs in IT, engineering, construction are bound to be un-original. We all work with chunks of stuff that just works, tailoring to an needs; writing original stuff for those big problems.

kitonthenet,

The most intense I ever have to get at work is when I have to look over something’s data sheet to find where the singular bit in the program is wrong, and when it flips it fixes the issue. I think it’s because we tricked machines into doing math, and mathematicians crib from each other as a rule

CoderKat,
CoderKat avatar

Yeah, sometimes you'll spend all day to make a single line change for a bug fix. Identifying where to make changes can be a considerable chunk of time. Plus collecting requirements and planning for changes.

After you write your big chunk of original code, good odds it doesn't work, too, so you'll spend a while debugging it.

You'll regularly have to learn new systems and libraries, as well as parts of your codebase that other people wrote. So a lot of time is spent just reading code and docs.

Movies made it look like the entire time is spent typing away. They're probably partly to blame. But movies especially conflate programming and hacking. On that note, the movie portrayal of hacking is even worse.

Tarlia,
Tarlia avatar

I used to be a journalist. People were jealous that we get to go everywhere "for free" and get "special" treatment, especially paid/exclusive events. It's work. I'm not "enjoying myself". I'm busy trying to collect information, speak to the right people, and watch out for newsworthy incidences. And often, it's not even an event that I enjoy attending.

Pegatron,
Pegatron avatar

I work in a hospital lab. Medical dramas have people thinking doctors are down here doing all the diagnostic work, so most people think I'm a clerk or a phlebotomist. Even nurses don't know we are degreed, licensed pros.

iNeedScissors67,
iNeedScissors67 avatar

I work in professional B2B sales in the chemical/industrial/pharmaceutical spaces. People always assume that 1) all sales people are pushing used cars or something like that and will do anything to make a sale, 2) that I work on commission. I don't work on commission, my end of year bonus is loosely based on how much I sell but really just more dependant on how much the owner wants to give. What I do is much closer to protect management than sales... Some sales take a year plus to close. I'm also dealing with project managers, purchasing agents, engineers, and maintenance supervisors, I'm not ever dealing with the general public.

Pegatron,
Pegatron avatar

How do you sell your company vs others when the product is a commodity? Like, what makes someone buy your tris buffer instead of someone else's?

iNeedScissors67,
iNeedScissors67 avatar

We don't have a ton of competition since our product lines are pretty niche. We don't sell PVC/CPVC, or stainless. Most of it is fiberglass or other composites, and we also have a field service crew to service existing material, so that is usually a pretty good way to ensure people go with us.

wjrii,
wjrii avatar

I've worked closely with people selling B2B IT Consulting services for years. If they didn't have a basic command of project management and what the solutions were capable of, they'd never be hired. If they didn't know those things like the back of their hand, they'd never succeed. Most of them still had a lot of drive and need to be persuasive, and it could be annoying, but for that kind of sales, there are many more important factors: mastery of product, communicating legitimate advantages (including downplaying minor objections and knowing when the product was a bad fit that would leave everyone unhappy), and maybe above all (except basic, baseline competence) relationship building.

iNeedScissors67, (edited )
iNeedScissors67 avatar

Yeah you're putting it into words better than I did; people hear "sales" and think it's just selling a product. The people who are only able to do that and nothing more will be selling cars or working in a call center trying to sell in volume. Professional/B2B sales are so much more involved, for the reasons you stated. Dealing with large companies, having to get approvals, do takeoffs, build relationships with clients and suppliers, manage workflow on projects that can sometimes take years, knowing when to no-bid a job if it's not a good application for the product. There's a saying I've heard floating around: "we ain't selling steak knives." Edited to add, I've been doing it for 10 years and it definitely took me a little while to figure out the flow but now I like it quite a bit and I don't see myself making a change any time soon.

wjrii,
wjrii avatar

Yeah, my background is in law, but lawyers are miserable, LOL. I've been working in orgs that support approvals, bid/proposal quality validation, and contracting for most of my career. That also results in pretty frequently being the Grima Wormtongue in negotiations. I'm a couple of layers removed right now, but I worked directly with the sales reps for most of those years. Bad ones tended not to stick around for long.

cloaker,

Crazy shit - What would a typical day look like in terms of project management stuff be? What kind of tasks make a sale?

iNeedScissors67,
iNeedScissors67 avatar

Doing takeoffs, i.e. going through the customer's drawings/blueprints on a project and coming up with a materials list, then coming up with a schedule to be able to get the materials there on time. Then there are usually contractors that I will need to bid that material to. It almost always involves site visits to look at the work site so that I can make tweaks to their plans or help them complete their plans. Lots of meetings (in person and zoom) to hammer out details. I've gone some cool places, like lead mines/cobalt mines, factories, power plants, steel foundries, etc. The worst place I have ever been makes cottage cheese, I almost puked when I walked in there, the smell was unbearable. Another one I didn't love was a plant that makes Liquid Smoke. Couldn't get the smell off me or out of my car for what seemed like weeks.

SuiXi3D,
SuiXi3D avatar

Guitar - that it's hard to get into. It's not difficult, it just (generally) takes a lot of time people don't want to spend just getting acquainted with the instrument. I suppose the same is true for any instrument, really.

mcdougle,
mcdougle avatar

tbf, it was very hard for me until I started learning music theory

juergen_hubert,
juergen_hubert avatar

My hobby is studying old German folk tales.

And there is a widespread assumption that these tales were told to and for kids, while they were really entertainment for all ages (and some are downright X-rated).

I blame Disney... and the Brothers Grimm, who did their own part to "censor" folk tales.

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