So why do you perfer Kbin over Lemmy?
I have most of the Fediverse-based account and seem to have just gravitated towards Lemmy over Kbin as found it very confusing, What makes you prefer Kbin over Lemmy or any other Fediverse instances?
I have most of the Fediverse-based account and seem to have just gravitated towards Lemmy over Kbin as found it very confusing, What makes you prefer Kbin over Lemmy or any other Fediverse instances?
kglitch, I rage quit Lemmy when I saw the developers of it defending genocide. Previously I had heard about that through the grapevine and thought I could hold my nose and use Lemmy anyway but when I read the actual discussion it made me sick.
Plus I know the language kbin is written in so I can contribute better to kbin.
SamXavia, Yeah I’ll have to look into that as if they are accepting not only Genocide but possibly the Genocide of Trans people then I’ve got to get out quick due to being a Trans Person myself.
herpderpedia, This is when I came over to kbin. Never saw it myself but was warned of it.
The kicking-off point was that I actually had created two communities and made a post in each one talking about how I was toying with the idea of using the Reddit API to mirror posts into them from the subreddits of the same name and then they magically disappeared (I assumed deleted by admins). So I dug into it and asked @feditips and was told they don't recommend Lemmy for those same reasons.
Turns out it was a weird nuance of language settings that hid them from me, despite being a mod of the new communities. So they are still there, but now I'm SERIOUSLY questioning the capabilities to moderate if I couldn't see posts because of language selection, especially my own posts.
readbeanicecream, Came for the UI. Stayed for the granular settings (including turning federation on and off) and the content just seemed higher quality (though that is very subjective)
SamXavia, Fair enough, I seem to find it confusing as of the moment but I’ll give it a proper go to see if I prefer it in the end.
HidingCat, How is it confusing? I've tried both and neither were hard to use, I purely picked Kbin for aesthetics.
SamXavia, It seems like there is several buttons at the top that confuses me as well as it seems to have lots of features that I’ll have to learn. I wouldn’t mind learning more of it especially if it brings a overall better experience in the end.
snapeyouinhalf, For me it’s more straight forward than Lemmy, possibly because of the UI. I still can’t find content I want, but overall it’s easier than lemmy and I can’t really put my finger on why. It’s interesting to me that you have the opposite impression!
SamXavia, I guess my thoughts are I can deal with the simpler UI, It doesn’t have anything on the screen without a specific use. I guess Kbin would be the same just has so much more on the screen than Lemmy does what I guess would overwhelm me.
CookieCrumbles, I'd say the best way to look at it is if you're enjoying your experience over on Lemmy, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with sticking with it! c: This is one of the major upsides to federation, since different places can appeal to different wants or needs from their users!
That said, if you are curious about Kbin and wanna learn more about it, don't be afraid to! The extra toggles or buttons can certainly be intimidating at first when you aren't sure what they do. But in my opinion, one of the biggest draws for a website is having options! There's a whole lot of good in a site that lets you make your experience more your own than simply being one-size-fits-all, and Kbin certainly offers that in a few different ways! I can't speak for Lemmy on that front, but maybe they have similar options as well.
Apologies for the rather lengthy reply, but if you're still curious about Kbin and some of its functionality, there is this post https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/52838/A-starting-guide-to-kbin-social-support-thread-for-new-users over on the KbinMeta magazine. It is a smidgen dated though since there have been some updates since, so if you still have questions or are still confused by something on here, don't be afraid to ask! People are very helpful on here c:
SamXavia, Thank you, you’ve been so useful and don’t worry about the long message it’s what these are for.
numbscroll, Which UI?
ETA: asking since people will see this across the fediverse, and may not realize where you posted this
Jaywarbs, Just the mobile website works pretty well by itself. I’m using the Artemis beta now and I like it a lot too.
numbscroll, I can’t wait for Artemis!
dandan, Hi from Artemis 🫡
It's pretty great.
numbscroll, 🥹
hariette, yay :D
readbeanicecream, @numbscroll Good point. Kbin.
GeekFTW, Extra features like (apologies for the run-on sentence) being able to see upvotes and downvotes on threads and comments like lemmy admins can, better integration with mastodon, every community has both a 'reddit-like' section like Lemmy/Reddit, and a 'twitter-like' section which as I mentioned integrates with mastodon via hashtags, we can block users, communities, domains and (soon) instances, we have a wide variety of user-style scripts via Tampermonkey to customize the UI (the base UI is also, subjectively, better).
Given its all federated, you also don't lose anything by using kbin since you have access to lemmy too. Plus the dev is just the nicest, hard working son of a bitch lol.
Only drawback is we dont have an API yet, so for mobile you're stuck with the mobile site, but the mobile site is also really good so eh. Once the API is up tho there's a few apps which have already said they'll support kbin as well, so that's a matter of time.
SamXavia, Thank you for breaking it down for me, seems like it’s really up to if someone wants better control over things than Lemmy currently does.
readbeanicecream, @GeekFTW Seems like the API is close ... https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/p/903221/kbin-s-API-is-coming-soon-I-ve-finished-up-all-of
GeekFTW, Ooooh perfect!
lagomorphlecture, Do you recall which mobile apps were going to support kbin?
GeekFTW, If my (usually shite) memory serves, I believe I Artemis, Boost, and Sync, but I may be wrong.
livus, I answered this the other day over at asklemmy so I'm going to cut n paste:
Why I joined
had a more intuitive interface
had a better aesthetic
had a much cooler name
the dev seemed like a cool guy
before federation it felt exciting like being on the ground floor of something
Why I stayed
has heaps of cool features and functions that are easy to use, like seeing upvotes, better blocking
I like the Mastodon interface too
turns out the dev definitely is awesome and everything is very open
it has a really chill community
I still just like it more than the various Lemmys
SamXavia, Thank you, I will decently look further into Kbin a lot more as it seems like a good Instance.
Inamin, I like the user interface of kbin, and I just hate the name lemmy. Only one thing in this world should be called lemmy.
SamXavia, Yeah I agree, Lemmy is such a strange name for the platform. As I look more into Kbin I do enjoy it a bit more in some areas but the simlicity of Lemmy’s Interface is so cool to me but I do see some useful features on Kbin.
DrStrange_99, Started with kbin today. After the first few interactions , it seems to get much better.
Edit: had to scroll down fully to type this comment. Is it just me or is it like this ?
curiosityLynx, Iirc that's intentional so you are more likely to read what others have written before starting your own comment chain. That might just be Tildes though, there that's explicitly said to be the reason why the commenting box is at the bottom.
vamp07, I don't really understand the difference, I think it's a shame that a Reddit replacement gets split into two camps in the Fediverse. At the very least, they should use the exact same data at the back end and interact with each other seamlessly. In either case, this is what you get in an open protocol. Maybe one or the other will win out in the long run.
SamXavia, Well, that’s the point of the Fediverse, you don’t really have to choose which one will ‘last longer’ you choose which one suits you. All the Communities / Magazines on Lemmy & Kbin do interact with each other, it just depends on what sort of look, feel, and Instance you prefer. The point of a decentralized system is not to have one centralized point or even software to access it, you can choose what you prefer. Like I’ve been preferring Kbin over anything else in the Fediverse lately.
Eigengrau,
- Tried joining a Lemmy instance but loading spinner stay stuck , didn't successfully create account
- Not much of a redditor , glad you're not limited to redditlike functions . Only downside's microblog functionality very basic compared to single purpose platforms (Mastodon|(.*)key) , but don't want hassle of maintaining multiple fediverse accounts
SamXavia, Fair enough, Just created my Kbin account and the first 24 hours has already made me want to move over.
hetscop, One thing that I like about kbin is that it's not trying to be "x, but federated" like lemmy or mastodon for example. It's more exiting to try to make something new! I think it's very apparent how some parts of lemmy are full of redditisms on purpose which I disslike.
That said, I do have a lemmy account that I use for posting about other stuff. There are a tons of website sprouting up as contenders for a space in the new internet landscape and I'm having a lot of fun trying them out without really binding myself to one too tightly
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SamXavia, Yeah looking to see if I can bring the content I’ve used on here across or if I need to 100% restart from scratch again. I do luckily already have a Kbin account that I’ve been messing around with but don’t want to lose my Communities / Magazines.
Ragnell, It integrates better with Mastodon, I can post to hashtags and see hashtags from here.
SamXavia, Thank you, I’m slowly learning Kbin
ConfusedLlama, Not really fond of things made by genocide-friendly ass-people.
So Kbin.
SamXavia, Please elaborate as I haven’t seen anything on Lemmy about Genocide-friendly manner.
Haus, I've seen "kbin is confusing" a few times, and frankly can't imagine any aspect of it that is confusing at all.
SamXavia, I personally feel like it seems cluttered but that’s from the first look as I’m sure it has plenty of helpful tools in the whole program. Lemmy seems to just have what you need and only that meaning after learning the basics you don’t really have much more you can do. Seems like a stripped out social media in my eyes, not sure how Kbin is when you learn a little bit of it.
livus, Neither. One of the reasons I'm here is it's less confusing.
Eggyhead, I didn’t stick with Lemmy long enough to make this point of comparison, but just as someone who never got into Twitter in the first place, the microblogging section is definitely taking some time to wrap my head around. That said, I really like that it’s there and I think it’s a major boon over lemmy. I hope community owners and moderators will get more microblogging integration options for magazines as Kbin advances.
Openmindedskeptic, I don’t really; I’m just hedging my bets. I have noticed that kbin doesn’t seem to go “down” as often as my Lemmy instance; on the other hand, there are still some bugs going on with kbin and I don’t like that you can’t yet collapse comments in threads. (unless I’ve missed something.)
I think Kbin has a lot of potential. I also think changing the name to something more catchy would help it grow more although IDK.
SamXavia, Yeah I hear people say about Lemmy.world going down all the time and as a Lemmy.world user I don’t really see it. It seems to be running fine as long as i’m not looking for communities through search as it seems to overload the server.
EpicFailGuy, Simple answer,
The ability to instantly hide viewed posts: https://greasyfork.org:4001/en/scripts/469175-kbin-hide-posts-after-voting/code
the better UI is just a plus ... I'm mostly browsing local instances and lemmy.world anyways
SamXavia, I seem to prefer Lemmy.world at the moment, plain and simple in UI compaired the many button Kbin
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