AdeptVeritatis,
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is going to pay for the atrocities and cruelties it brings to the Palestinians. Some day. Not today and not tomorrow. But it will pay.

But this will not be done by revenge. Revenge only leads to more suffering of those, who already suffer the most.

The hatred needs to be stopped. The call for revenge because of dead children.

This conflict will not stop as long as the bodies of dead children get dragged around for photos. And people share and spread those.

Israel will pay some day.

faab64,

@AdeptVeritatis In 50-60 years, the whole region will be unhabitable due to global heating.

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@faab64

Yeah, this conflict will not go on forever. And it would be great to use the time they still have in the holy land much better than now.

And it is important to solve the conflict, before they carry this confrontation as immigrants into their exile.

My suggestion is still: One federal nation for all.

Two separate nation states would bring two armies, which would lead to war again.

AdeptVeritatis,
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@faab64

In one nation, Palestinians could sue their own government for the destruction of their houses and their dead family members.
And they would have voting rights.

But as the land is holy, nobody should be allowed to own any. This must be public land and you need to pay to use it.

AdeptVeritatis,
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@faab64

There are no prospects for real estate speculations in the future. Which will lead to a lot of problems in sustaining infrastructure. It will become a duty for the whole population. Until it will not be possible anymore.

Taking away land property could mitigate some of these processes.

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@faab64

No land property means a huge setback for the people, who profited from the oppression of the Palestinians.

Justice, equity and fairness can be managed with the price of the lease, people have to pay for their land.
But it could also lead to a lot of corruption.

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@AdeptVeritatis

Israel needs to pay, but the brave journalists in Gaza need to record and report the atrocities that are being committed by Israel,
The world's citizens need to know what is happening, or Israel will never be held to account.

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@jonburr @Miro_Collas

(Answer to you both.)

We live in democracies. We have given our power to "neutral" institutions.

We are not the judges!

We do not need to see ALL those images. Do you remember Alan Kurdi? - One picture is enough to know, what happens in the Mediterranean.

Do we see pictures from dead Ukrainian children every day? I can read about them daily, they are really dying. But what is the difference?

AdeptVeritatis,
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@jonburr @Miro_Collas

Anti-Semitic tropes are deeply entrenched into Western culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_trope

Look at:
'Ritual murder and blood libel'
'Organ harvesting'

One anti-Semitic classic is the Jew, who abducts children and steals their blood.

You can even find it in the War on Drugs, which was kicked off by authoritarian racists. "They poison our kids."

Or with music. "Rock and Rap music undermine our youth."

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@jonburr @Miro_Collas

Some interest groups are playing with Western antisemitism.
Because they hate our democracy and want to destroy it. They want the power, we gave to the institutions.

And they use us to do it. If we throw away our courts and overrule our judges, Western law will not exist anymore.

I do not want to have that.

I want to change our law to have a better future. But I do not want to destroy it.

A lot of people are going to stop those, who try to destroy it nonetheless.

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@jonburr @Miro_Collas

The victims and the war crimes in Ukraine are recorded and reported.

There is no need to fuel hate against Russians with a cascade of cruel images. Or do we still see images from the Bucha massacre?

That will not bring any advantage to the Ukrainians.

And it does not bring any advantage to the Palestinians likewise.

jonburr,
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@AdeptVeritatis @Miro_Collas

PALESTINIANS ARE also PEOPLE.
The genocide being committed against Gaza civilians is -SEMITIC
People protesting against this Genocide are being -SEMITIC

Zionists DO NOT have a monopoly on Semitism

Zionists DO NOT have the right to defy international humanitarian laws and commit whatever atrocities they choose.

Most of the "people" screaming against the protestors are israeli bots & puppets.

jemmesedi,
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Miro_Collas,
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@jemmesedi
That's the ADL's definition. It isn't clear that it is universally adopted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism seems to make no distinction.

It should be noted that "semitic people" used to exist as a valid term:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
Although it clearly is no longer in use, as noted there.

@jonburr @AdeptVeritatis

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Miro_Collas,
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@AdeptVeritatis
I am aware of that page - it is referenced from the ones I cited, after all. I did not cite them by accident.

[Added] It remains that the hyphenated vs non-hyphenated definitions seem specific to the ADL, which is by no means the ultimate authority on the terms.

@jemmesedi @jonburr

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@Miro_Collas @jemmesedi @jonburr

From Semitic people page:
"The terminology is now largely unused outside the grouping "Semitic languages" in linguistics."

Your link was as useful as any of these here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Semitic_languages

I think, this is completely discussed now. At least, I learned a little bit. Thanks to whoever feels addressed.

Miro_Collas,
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@AdeptVeritatis
[sigh] Yes and I said it was now an obsolete term.

@jemmesedi @jonburr

AdeptVeritatis,
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@Miro_Collas

Obsolete means, you should not use it.
Your fault!

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