downey, 10 months ago

@kushal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists all over again

vwbusguy, 10 months ago

@kushal How much of #RHEL is #RedHat doing exactly this with upstream #opensource code?!

kushal, 10 months ago

@vwbusguy once upon a time in NHO there was a slide on this iirc.

praveen, 10 months ago

@vwbusguy @kushal This ^

Single points of failures are always worth avoiding.

Btw I was using #Debian on my work laptop when I was at #RedHat :)

I always valued the not-controlled-by-single-entity property of #Debian.

Now Debian has LTS (this was not the case always) and many companies fund that project.

vwbusguy, 10 months ago

@praveen @kushal I have a lot of respect for Debian and it's probably next to none in the IoT space. I wouldn't choose it in a high-scale production enterprise situation. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but vendor support and lifecycle support tools become factors.

jeang3nie, 10 months ago

@kushal I had managed to not care much about the CentOs thing until reading this, but there's a few things here that make me uneasy. In particular:

"We pushed our SRPMs out to git.centos.org in a neat package that made them easy to rebuild;"

And then:

"Instead, we’ve found a group of users ... that want the ... of RHEL without having to actually support ..."

Ok, but the SRPMs are the build system, which according to the license must also be made freely available. So yes, they ARE obligated.

kielkontrovers, 10 months ago

@kushal this reminds me on the famous Bill Gates Letter to hobbyists!

whynothugo, 10 months ago

@kushal It’s very sad how these companies want to redefine Open Source into merely the aspects that make it profitable for them.

People rebuilding code while making little to no changes is exactly what makes open source valuable. We avoid reinventing the same thing over and over.

bartavi, 10 months ago

@kushal I could agree with large parts of that letter, but the final paragraphs are outright wrong. But then again, open source is missing the point anyway.

fedi, 10 months ago

@kushal they kept the branding after being bought by IBM. Rocky Linux seems to be a good replacement.

foolishowl, 10 months ago

@kushal Money changes everything.

https://youtu.be/cMVuRGw_a5A

rysiek, 10 months ago

@kushal what the hell