fedi

@fedi@masto.ai

I post mostly about the fediverse. Formerly on Mastodon.Technology

This profile is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.

fedi, to kbin

The massive growth of the threadiverse shows no sign of slowing down:

https://lemmy.world/post/632941

kushal, to RedHat
@kushal@toots.dgplug.org avatar

This is not the I grew up with.

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes

fedi,

@kushal they kept the branding after being bought by IBM. Rocky Linux seems to be a good replacement.

mastodonmigration, to Futurology
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

Subject: What's going on with Meta?

To: @Gargron, @ruud, @jerry, @supernovae, @stux, @trumpet, @kev and other large instance admins

Rumors are tearing this place apart out here about secret deals with . The latest is that Meta has held meetings with some of you and they will federate with large instances under contracts providing financial support (1) (2).

This is a time for leadership, not silence. Please, what's going on?

(1) https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/110598855375585873
(2) https://mastodon.social/@alexeheath/110596207691212890

fedi,

@rysiek o.k. to dm you on this

fedi,

@Kaldo it was put together by VantaBlack. I'm fairly sure most of the people who signed up to it do take it seriously.

fedi,

@Kaldo

'no proof anyone signed anything'
I don't know exactly what kind of proof you expect.

I agree that it could be more clearly explained. There was a fair bit of discussion on 'Mastodon' about it so some of that context might not be clear.

Re the donation links. It is quite common for people who show up on the fediverse and put in some work to ask for donations.

I mean it is a attempt to rally community to a cause but it was put together by one person off their own bat.

fedi,

@14specks
the person behind the feditips mastodon account is, I am fairly sure a different person. But it is a pseudonymous account, so in theory it could be.

[Posted from Mastodon]

fedi, to Facebook

Fosstodon admin Kev turned down Facebook's offer of a 'roundtable' meeting.

Discussion thread on lemmy:

https://beehaw.org/post/715934

Kev's original post: https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836

rmdes, to fediverse
@rmdes@mstdn.social avatar

Thinking about Hacker News but sprinkled with

imagine being able to reply and participate to any post from the and with have fediverse comments mingled with native HN activity.

+ and we shift the balance back in the open web.

fedi,

@rmdes I don't think there's any doubt but that the 'threadiverse' could eat into Hackernews ' market share. They are very similar.

There are a few lemmies which currently occupy a similar space including

https://programming.dev

fedi, to random

Term of the day

Mastodon H.O.A.

noun. pejorative(negative)

busybodies about the fediverse who stick their nose into other people's business, tell people who they shouldn't talk to and what phrases, terminology are unacceptable.
notorious for refusing to let bygones be bygones and dredge up irrelevancies from years ago.

Mastodon Homeowners Association.

fedi, to random

What is interesting about lemmy is that you can start a thread on a different server. You can't follow people on lemmy, just communities. It seems that this model results in a network with topics are a central feature whereas on Mastodon the central feature is the individual account.

I've always found the microverse(mastodon) to be a poor place for discussions; they tend to be way to disjointed, spread out.

The character limit on posts on most Mastodon servers also results in people limiting..

fedi, to random

I'm becoming more suspicious of Facebook's project to integrate a new service into the fediverse.

It makes absolutely no sense.

An open 'social network protocol' and its implementaions are a threat to multi-billion companies like Facebook who absolutely need to retain tight control over their user base to extract profits.

Once plugged in the danger of their user base 'escaping' through the new connection is large.

But I still can't quite pin down why they are doing it.

Maybe sabotage.

fedi,

@chiefgyk3d So for the opportunity to attract a million or two million people Facebook connects their network of 2 billion people to the ActivityPub network. Seems to me the danger of some of their 2 billion jumping ship far outweighs the opportunity cost.

fedi,

@chiefgyk3d Sure the average internet user has a certain 'learned helplessness'. But they do, mostly, have the ability to navigate to a URL, choose a username, enter an email address, open their email, click on an activation link, return to URL and start pressing partly familiar, partly new buttons on a slightly different user interface. The idea of tech skills being required to use 'Mastodon' is vastly over-promoted.

fedi,

@chiefgyk3d I am understanding what you are saying and I disagree. I posted specific steps to opening a typical social network account. I believe the average internet user can achieve these steps. Which step do you not believe they can achieve or do you just believe they can't string 5 simple steps together.

fedi,

@chiefgyk3d this goes back to the 'learned helplessness' I referenced earlier. It probably also ties in with deliberate confusing statements disseminated to confuse people. I wonder who promoted them sarcasm.

Amazing how people can choose a restaurant from hundreds but some would have you believe choosing a fediverse instance is vastly complicated.

fedi,

@chiefgyk3d I think it is pretty clear we are not going to agree on this.

kissane, to random
@kissane@mstdn.social avatar

This is more semi-meta, so do what you will with that, but I want to explicitly tie together two conversational threads from yesterday:

  1. I think the structure of Mastodon really amps rumors and misinfo because the mechanisms we use elsewhere to pass around and find corrections (visible replies, quote-posts, search) don't work here.

  2. Instance admin politics are rarely discussed in a public, easily re-findable place—that, too, fuels the rumor-mill, as we saw re: Meta meeting discussions.

fedi,

@kissane

  1. I've seen the exact opposite view promoted within the fediverse for the past 5 years: that its design is anti-viral, that it does not provide a good space for the dissemination of disinfo, and from my own partial view of the fediverse I would agree that it does not appear to do so.

The fediverse of the past 6 months is much bigger so it is possible it has changed.

[Facebook NDAs are a recipe for rumour; fedizens have a right to speculate about what may be happening.]

1/2

atomicpoet, to fediverse

Wow! Yet again, added 100,000 accounts within 24 hours!

And it's about to reach 500,000 users!

What's most impressive about this? It's managed to do this without any assistance from the tech press -- with zero Silicon Valley-style hype!

Source: https://fedidb.org/software

fedi,

@atomicpoet

The influx into the lemmyverse has been impressive.

A caveat is that if you look at the sidebar on fedidb.org and click through on some of the instances that are reporting the biggest gains in the past few days some of them are clearly one person instances misreporting that they have thousands of users.

fedi,

@selea @atomicpoet
@dansup

Here is a link about spam sign-ups to lemmies which could be causing pollution of statistics, including on fedidb.

https://lemm.ee/post/177673

fosstodon, to random
@fosstodon@fosstodon.org avatar

Here's our position on the "Facebook joining the Fedi" mess...

https://hub.fosstodon.org/facebook-fosstodon-fedi

fedi,

@happyborg

List of instances that will be blocking Facebook's fedi servers:

https://fedipact.online/

dangillmor, to random
@dangillmor@mastodon.social avatar

I can't say whether Facebook joining the fediverse (ditto Google, which won't want to miss this opportunity) will kill or absorb the fediverse, though it's obviously and rationally something to worry about.

But preemptively blocking them -- and the people already using them -- from your instance guarantees less relevance for the fediverse.

It also guarantees, if my instance joins such a boycott, that I'll find a new instance.

fedi,

@dangillmor pretty sure big tech have destroyed the promise that the web held out turning it into a surveillance capitalist's dream. Blocking Facebook, Google and Twitter in the fediverse is a good thing.

The internet is great again, thanks to all of you 🙂

I'm 32, I remember using the internet before google was a thing, discovering flashy websites, hanging out on all kinds of internet forums and chatrooms, ebaums world, MySpace, new grounds... I rember when YouTube was just starting off and it was exploding with all kinds of content....

fedi,

@Labotomized
BBS - bulletin board system

1970s-80s
a person would run a server (often from home) and people would dial in over a regular phone line and browse the forum(bbs) and leave a text message. If you had one phone line only one person could log in at a time. you might wait weeks for someone to reply to your message. Both ends needed a modem to encode decode from digital to analog and back.

[sent from the microverse(mastodon)]

stux, to random
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

I'm gonna try to clear up a few things

Meta is not gonna buy Mastodon or any server, this is based on absolutely nothing and untrue.

Yes, some of us indeed got contacted by Meta/Insta because they are working on a new social platform (this was in the news) and they are looking into joining the Fediverse (Mark Zuckerberg also told this in the recent podcast)

SO.

This contact was about a "heads-up" for a potential big platform to join the network and not for a "take over".

[1/2]

fedi,

@stux but we still don't know who they met and what was discussed. NDA was a bad idea to begin with.

There are about 3 million active users of the fediverse and billion dollar company targeted, what five, six, ten individuals?

Shrigglepuss, to random
@Shrigglepuss@godforsaken.website avatar

Eugen Rochko of Mastodon gGmbH fame, being a core member of EUnomia (working with cops) fame, being hired by Purism to entirely remove the report feature from their Mastodon fork fame, funnelling people towards obscenely big and badly moderated flagship instance within a federated social network for growth and influence fame, rarely open to any sort of constructive community criticism fame, is having secret meetings with Meta. An other day at the office for him, really?

fedi,

@Are0h
related:

many fedi admins have signed an anti-facebook thingy:
https://beach.city/@vantablack/110565941741382039

freakazoid, to random
@freakazoid@retro.social avatar

Have you considered WHY Meta is having Fediverse admins sign an NDA?

How much do you want to bet it's because they're going to pay them to federate, and in the case of Eugen and Dansup to add features to the software that benefit them? Life-changing money for Eugen and Dansup is pocket change for Meta. The only way we can counter that is through solidarity.

fedi,

@freakazoid one solution to the 'big instance' problem might be if the anti-bigtech people of the fediverse organise to start a large instance that would be much more consistent with an anti-big tech fediverse. Because after all if the dot socials and universeodons get to attract the most new people to the fedi it inevitably pollutes the environment(even if they are silenced/defederated). Of course it is a big project and will take some organising....

cc: @liaizon

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