vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

little story for tonight.

while i was goofing around with #globalTalk, I ended up searching for some old Simpsons icons for my classic Macintosh (an LC 475), and stumbled upon an entry on the garden called Banned Simpsons Icons. (Who could resist downloading something with a title like that?)

They were called the "Banned Simpsons Icons" because Fox once sent the artist - Jeanette Foshee - a cease & desist letter for her uncannily perfect renderings of the copyrighted characters. they planned on suing her for every penny she made ($0.00) on them. this was back in 1995.

i thought - hell, what a wild story. why don't I get a hold of the artist - jeanette - and find out more about her banned icon set?

what i stumbled upon broke my heart, and i ended up spending a week digitally preserving what i could find.

read the rest of this diary entry here: https://www.dialup.cafe/~vga256/diary.htm

#smallWeb #homepage #worldwideweb #marchintosh #macintosh

coldclimate,
@coldclimate@hachyderm.io avatar

@vga256 crikey. Thank you

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar
angel,
@angel@triptico.com avatar

This is a really moving story. Thanks.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@angel 🙏

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@vga256 oh damn I want these as emojos! @dantescanline we need the chief wiggums

dantescanline,
@dantescanline@autonomous.zone avatar

@liaizon :police_wiggum:

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@dantescanline acab includes :police_wiggum:

mejs,
@mejs@mastodon.vladovince.com avatar

@vga256 this as beautiful, thank you for sharing it with us

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@mejs 🙏

Tijn,
@Tijn@dosgame.club avatar

@vga256 Man, what a story. Jeanette seems rad.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@Tijn agreed :)

ottaross,
@ottaross@mastodon.social avatar

@vga256 ah! I remember everyone having those on their early Macs around the office. Must've been like OS 7-ish?

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@ottaross yup :)

geoffl,
@geoffl@mastodon.me.uk avatar

@vga256

"It's been many years since I've heard from anyone
concerning my icons. Will you be the first to renew contact?" 😭

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@geoffl 😬 i missed that part

barryallen2023,

@vga256 good share and thank you for what you do. Preserving that old school Internet is important. Very sad that she passed away so young and before her mother. I wonder what it could have been from?

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@barryallen2023 my pleasure. i wish i knew too. there were very few details available.

naught101,
@naught101@mastodon.social avatar

@vga256 your website doesn't play nice on dark mode (because the text is white on a white background)

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@naught101 that is because it is precisely designed to never, ever be shown in dark mode.

notabene,
@notabene@piaille.fr avatar

@vga256 Thanks for sharing!

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@notabene my pleasure. it sure gave me a lot to think about.

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@toot.wales avatar

@vga256 there's something really bleak about that obituary. It talks about her time in school - what about her life after that?!

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@Flamekebab sometimes i see people who just - disappear - after a certain point in their lives. they turn inwards and never quite re-emerge, and their best/only memories are all of times 20-30 years earlier. even jeanette's own home page doesn't cover her life after university.

me,

@vga256 You;are amazing for archiving this work for others to enjoy. Truly a saint <3

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@me 😆 i am quite the opposite of that, but it was my honour to do the work. 🙏 my thanks

piepants,
@piepants@famichiki.jp avatar

@vga256 that's a sad story, but thank you for taking the time to write it up! It frustrates me that companies like Google are all too happy to destroy internet history. I've tried recently to go back and find old sites I had in the 90s and 2000s, and there's a lot that's missing on The Internet Archive, unfortunately. I wish I kept better backups.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@piepants it's frustrating - i'm very thankful IA has made some of it salvageable.

kctipton,

@vga256 The obit has the awful detail that the mom still lived but both brothers had already passed. How sad for the mom.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@kctipton 😬 i hadn't noticed that myself.

ArneBab,
@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social avatar

@vga256 that’s sad and sweet and horrible at the same time.

And it’s pages like this one I miss — though that it still said „tired of being alone“ when she died may show that our pages of old often did not work as people needed. Which may be why social media captures so many more people.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@ArneBab that's a good point. at the same time i have never seen any social media post quite as intimate as her homepage. i really get the feeling that i'm seeing her for who she is, rather than who she wants to be seen as. that's what i miss about homepages.

ArneBab,
@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social avatar

@vga256 I fully agree. I much prefer those homepages over social media posts.

I just have the feeling that the homepages didn’t quite accomplish the connecting.

(I also prefer writing on my own website, though, and it’s a static page with stuff that matters to me, so I’m biased ☺: https://www.draketo.de )

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@ArneBab will be happy to link out to your homepage from mine. great site, and I appreciate the bilingual text!

ArneBab,
@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social avatar

@vga256 gladly!

Though bilingual parts are less structured than before. On old websites I had actual parts split by language. Now I mostly have some articles in German, some in English, and I collect the most important ones in sections by language. That means that it is necessary for readers to ignore the parts in languages they don’t understand.

Also I have to start creating link-lists of other pages again. Currently all I have is “important articles elsewhere” and lists of links per topic.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@ArneBab sounds perfect to me. any amount of translation is very much appreciated - autotranslate in Safari produces some rather ah “poetic” english from german

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@ArneBab you’re right. it’s interesting that they didn’t. i’ve had plenty of e-mails about my homepages over the years, but none of them resulted in long lasting friendships. there is ONE exception to that - for me at least - blogs. I ended up having a few 15+ year friendships out of the mid 2000s blogging era. i guess those would be considered social media now - but at the time they felt more like homepages :)

ArneBab,
@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social avatar

@vga256 Actually social media also did not lead to long-lasting friendships for me (also not today), but I know it’s different for others. They rather led to me finding interesting people, and friendships started on other platforms I found that way.

IRC, email lists and forums did, though.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@ArneBab 😂 it has been a real mixed bag for me. i’ve had a couple of long lasting friendships from the twitter of 2007-2012, but nothing after that.

glad you mentioned irc! I’m still in contact with a few people from my irc channel that is now 29 years old and still going :D

NickSchwanck,
@NickSchwanck@aus.social avatar

@vga256 Lurleen Lumpkin had an episode all her own where Homer was her manager. She appeared as a washed up former star in a later episode where she delivered what was likely her best line; "I spent last night in a ditch."

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@NickSchwanck the artist drew a pretty great lurleen.

voxpopsicle,
@voxpopsicle@mastodon.social avatar

@vga256 beautiful story - thanks for putting in the time

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@voxpopsicle my pleasure! :)

Alan,
@Alan@mastodon.online avatar

@vga256 Thank you for sharing. And thank you for being you.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@Alan i have few other options. :D thank you!

90sScriptKiddiw,

@vga256 Reading her interests on her "are you my dude" page, I'm like, damn girl, I woulda had lively conversations long into the night with you! 53 is so young to have passed. I never knew her but this webpage offers a glimpse of her sense of humor and joie de vivre and I think the world is poorer without her in it. I even went and read her blog. There's something sad about these digital remmants of people that pass. So many are on cloud services that you know will wipe them eventually. They, like all of us, are on borrowed time, so intentional preservation like yours feels like a small but significant middle finger to entropy, loss, and grief. She was here, she was real, and as long as your server and my memories persist, she'll stay that way a bit longer.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@90sScriptKiddiw she sure seemed like a very special person, just judging by what and how she wrote. i really regret that i only learned of her this week - she seems like the kind of person that would have made a great friend 🙏

boxofbugs,

@vga256 thanks for digging out and preserving her site. Sad story :(

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@boxofbugs i was honoured to do the work. i only wished i could have gotten to know her :)

kwramm,
@kwramm@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@vga256 oh man, I remember those! There was a site called Iconfactory that regularly featured classic Mac icons and icon artists

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@kwramm yup she even links out to them :)

wezm,
@wezm@mastodon.decentralised.social avatar

@vga256 A sad story. It's a shame how ephemeral people's website's are, but then I suppose that's the nature of life. Great work giving this one some more time online.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@wezm i'm so glad a few more people can see her for who she was.. and besides, she was an incredibly talented pixel artist!

Charles,
@Charles@gascoigne.social avatar

@vga256 That’s very sad. I had these icons back in the day. They really were good.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@Charles yes. i've rarely seen better ones :)

csilverman,
@csilverman@mastodon.social avatar

@Charles @vga256 we had them on the hard drive icons for the Macs at the student newspaper. I remember the computers were named things like "Mr Burns" and "Lurleen Lumpkin".

This is the first I'd heard that Fox actually tried to get them wiped from the Internet. That is so stupid. I'm glad they failed.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@csilverman some of the icons are hilarious. there's one labelled "Mr. Burns' Lawyer", and it's a drawing of a shark.

likesoldmacs,

@vga256 this is amazing ❤️

vga256,
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