You are diagnosed with cancer but have no money for treatment. You've no option but to steal the money somehow. What's your plan?

Assume you’re life-lusted and are willing to abandon every moral you have just to live. Paying for cancer treatment is also worth prison time to you.

Also assume you’ve exhausted all ethical fundraising options, i.e. GoFundMe, loans, etc. and that insurance won’t cover treatment for whatever reason.

smellythief,

Sad that the list of horrible circumstances necessary for such a hypothetical really needs to include 'lives in the US."

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Yeah. Yeah…

CADmonkey,

Collect a bunch of broken laptops, fill the hard drive with pics of dude’s 69’ing and sell them for $2,000 each on Ebay as “Hunter Biden’s Laptop”.

While I don’t care what two consenting adults do, the people obsessed with Hunter do get bent out of shape over anyone gay, so it would be entertaining to make them look through many such images looking for whatever evidence they think they will find.

Alternatively, and more likely, I’d get over my moral qualms about selling questionable tr*mp/rightwing gear to idiots.

Trollivier,

I live in Canada, I’m good.

PP_BOY_,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t need money to receive treatment in the US. But to answer the prompt, I’d just rob a bank with a note and no weapon. Immediately surrender when the police arrive and spend the next few years in prison getting 100% free healthcare

ArdMacha,

Wouldn’t it just be easier to move to Europe?

emptyother,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

So all you gotta steal is $300 for a plane ticket. That should be relatively easy, right?

pinkdrunkenelephants,

You need to be rich to emigrate

scv,

You don’t have to be rich, it takes a couple thousand dollars, the problem is to not become homeless afterwards…

page,

Isn’t having a job lined up a prerequisite for immigration in most countries?

scv,

Immigration is complicated, and you are thinking only of “legal” immigration. It is extremely common for people to ignore those laws. And a job is not always required, no.

You (generic you) don’t need to really emigrate to a country to receive treatment, you could go with a tourist visa or visa free and get treated, then go back to the shitty country without universal healthcare where you live.

In my home country everyone has access to healthcare because it’s a human right, so by law it doesn’t matter what your immigration status is, you will get care. This includes cancer treatment, for free.

nehal3m,

Good luck getting in.

ExLisper,

I don’t think stealing would be the hard part. Selling the goods would be. To steal large sum I guess I will drive a stolen car through a jewellery store’s window. I believe this had fairly high success rate with Romanian gangs doing this many times in France and getting away with it. To steel a car I would look for someone leaving it running while and getting out to for a moment. I think I would be able to find one in a couple of weeks. Than smash the widow, grab what I can and run. Risky but if I’m dying anyway it would be worth trying. Turning it into cash would be very difficult though.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

You could always hawk it as new on Ebay.

ExLisper,

Where I live police monitors those things. They will even check pawn shop inventory for jewellery reported as stolen and you have to show an ID to pawn anything. You would have to sell it to some random guys on the street which would be risky.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Sell it in another country or online.

sm1dger,

The money is a means to an end. It would be more efficient to steal the drugs themselves. As a first guess, threaten a doctor to steal the drugs and write out a detailed rota of what to take and when for you. Depending on the means used to coerce, leave the country afterwards. Or just live in a country with socialised healthcare

pinkdrunkenelephants,

A lot of cancer patients need to pay for actual surgery or radiation therapy though.

Delicious_Tomatoes,

Finish that “non-violence is ineffective” essay (it’s dense). Join the collective on the front lines. Results: A) we gather steam and ultimately succeed. B) martyrdom gives my death meaning. C) prison provides healthcare and three squares. D) prison is so awful that we revisit B.

mayonaise_met,

I’ll get a social welfare benefits which won’t be a lot but I can probably make do for a while. I’ll also get a medical insurance benefit which covers roughly 2/3 of my insurance so I’ll have to pay something like €40/month myself. Those benefits will help me pay the €385 max yearly out of pocket for the care I’ll need, and be done with it. That’s not to say being in this situation is great in the Netherlands, but I won’t go into debt and I won’t lose my home (gov’t guarantees mortgage to bank) and I won’t have to continue to pay back my 0% interest student loans.

We’re lucky. But make sure to vote.

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

this implies welfare is stealing

mayonaise_met,

What do you mean?

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

You have no option but to steal

(from the post title)

mayonaise_met,

Ah, damnit. I guess I’ve accidentally gone full right wing there.

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

happens to the best of us

Destraight,

Probably talk to my friend Lee and do another “job” for him

Iunnrais,

I continue working in Japan and have it covered by national insurance.

bonus_crab,

From the usa, safest bet would probably be a heist on an armored vehicle, killing the driver and taking his clothes and belongings and heading to mexico to change the money and get healthcare.

Or better yet , you might not even need to kill the driver. impersonate or bribe a cop and just pull them over and take the money. Cops did that all the time a few years ago, targeting companies related to weed since its federally illegal, making the transport of the profit on interstate highways vaguely illegal. They still can, but they supposedly dont.

redballooon, (edited )

Assuming I know some chemistry, I’d cook some crystal meth.

chahk,

I’d so watch a TV show about that!

Oha,
@Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz avatar

I would do nothing. Healthcare is free here

Eranziel,

Same. As it should be.

smellythief,

Tell us where so op can move there if it comes to that.

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

I don’t think I am able to make that much money even if I played along with your no morals all goes scenario.

Realistically I have zero chances of successfully robbing a bank or avoiding police if say, I choose to kidnap a baby and ask for a Ransom.

Drug dealing would be more believable, I guess I could start my own mushroom and marijuana business but I don’t think I’ll be able to make enough or grow my network as much as necessary to cover for expenses.

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