Cruxifux,

My wife is very superstitious and I have never believed in ghosts or anything like that. Aliens, ghosts, magic, religions, totally confident that they aren’t real. When she told me she heard a weird voice calling her name one night I was incredibly skeptical and told her she was definitely dreaming because we live nowhere near anybody and it was -30 that night.

I am never gonna tell her I heard the voice too.

GONADS125, (edited )

I used to think (intelligent/hyper-advanced) extraterrestrial life was far-fetched, but despite being very skeptical by nature, I’ve recently changed my tune after deep diving into the subject of UAP.

I recommend giving my write-up a read.

My article is very throughly cited from valid sources. I’m not saying aliens are responsible for the UAP we’ve witnessed in our atmosphere, but I am inclined to admit it seems like a feasible explanation for the crafts that were confirmed by our government being witnessed all over the world, beginning in 1947.

I know from past experience that many users will not follow that link, so I figured I’d share some important highlights to demonstrate that I’m not a crazy conspiracy theorist.

Here is Maj. Gen. John Samford’s nationally televised 1952 address on the mass witnessed UFO/UAP events, which began in 1947.

Here are snippets from the Twining Memo which specified that: “The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious.”

https://i.postimg.cc/QCJyD8SQ/Twining-Report.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/j2bFBw6q/Twining-Report2.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/tTPcrtxm/Twining-Report3.jpg

Here’s the 1948 “See Something, Say Something” memo of Bavaria, Germany regarding “flying discs.”

https://i.postimg.cc/tJ2qvj0T/See-something-Say-something.webp

In May 1948 the Office of Military Government for Bavaria, Germany, issued instructions for reporting sightings of “flying discs.” These instructions were issued as a result of requirements from higher headquarters in Germany and in the United States. They were the result of the flying saucer phenomena that began in 1947. [32]

It’s been confirmed since 2017 that the U.S. government had a secret program devoted to the surveillance and study of UAP, called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). [1]

The existence of UAP as real objects in our atmosphere has been confirmed by the U.S. government. The Pentagon’s Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) was mandated to produce a report on UAP, and stated in their report that:

“Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical objects given that a majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared, electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation.… UAP clearly pose a safety of flight issue and may pose a challenge to U.S. national security.

Safety concerns primarily center on aviators contending with an increasingly cluttered air domain. UAP would also represent a national security challenge if they are foreign adversary collection platforms or provide evidence a potential adversary has developed either a breakthrough or disruptive technology. [11]

Of the 510 total UAP reports studied by ODNI, 171 remained “uncharacterized and unattributed,” and “some of these uncharacterized UAP appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities, and require further analysis.” [11] Not only has the US government confirmed that UAP exist, they have admitted that they pose a serious safety risk to our pilots; both commercial and military.

Furthermore, these crafts which appear to be exhibiting disruptive/breakthrough technology in comparison to our currently most advanced (publicly disclosed) conventional aircraft, were demonstrating these same feats over 65 years ago. I find it harder to believe we had such a significant breakthrough back in 1947, rather than tech originating from some non-human intelligence.

In my article, I have linked previously classified correspondence in which the Air Force and other government agencies all confirmed with each other that the crafts in our atmosphere, starting in 1947, were not the product of any secret U.S. programs. The recommendation was to attempt to recreate these crafts, which is where USAF Project 1794 comes into play.

https://i.postimg.cc/rm738ZSJ/1794-000-cover-a.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/R0FzvVsQ/project-1794-cover.webp

https://i.postimg.cc/hvjvBj1x/1794-024-foldout-front-a.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Pxvs8VkC/Fig-4.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/wjbSfB7Z/1794-033-a.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/VLw1n5CF/1794-075-a.jpg

Here is a link to the full Project 1794 PDF file in a downloadable format.

It is important to note that the craft attempting to be designed here was not capable of achieving the feats of the “flying saucers” that were being witnessed all around the world at that time.

Project 1794 also offers proof of the U.S. government’s ability to maintain classified information. I have seen the idiotic talking point parroted around that “The U.S. government couldn’t keep something like UFOs from the public all those years.” Why not?? USAF Project 1794 unequivocally refutes that argument. It was kept secret until it was declassified and sent to the National Archives. [31]

TL;DR: Don’t be so quick to discount the possible existence of non-human intelligence…

Edit: I always wonder if the people blanket downvoting assume these are fake documents, or if it’s just blatant confirmation bias, avoidance, and denial? They are easily verifiable. If you’re here just jumping to conclusions that this is false because it’s easier to believe that, consider that you are failing to maintain intellectual integrity. That’s not skepticism; it’s bias and being too ignorant to even consider a possibility that is outside of your internalized beliefs. It’s a demonstration of closed-mindedness. You’re like the people from the movie Don’t Look Up.

If you’re so confident, read my blog post and challenge your preconceived beliefs.

nikscha,

Full disclaimer: I maybe read 10% of your comment.

Why is the government (all governments really) hiding it from us?

Why don’t the aliens want to be seen? And why do we still observe them sometimes? Given their far far superior tech it shouldn’t be hard for them to avoid being detected.

GONADS125,

I realize I didn’t answer your question about why would governments conceal it.

It makes a lot of sense for our governments to conceal technology to have an edge against adversaries should a major conflict arise. The element of surprise is very powerful, and suddenly deploying technology that an adversary doesn’t know how to/doesn’t have an existing plan to counter is highly valuable.

Concealing technological developments also makes it more challenging for adversaries to replicate our tech.

The reason for the historical concealment from the public goes back to the Robertson Panel, who decided that while UFO/UAP represent no direct threat, they believed that public awareness could lead to ontological crises for the highly religious country at that time. They also believed that it served as a vulnerability that the Soviets could use to instill mass panic (think of the War of the Worlds radio broadcast panic).

So the Robertson Panel recommended concealing the information on UFO/UAP and initiating a ‘public information campaign’ to reeducate our population and to stigmatize the subject. They were very successful and this stigma still remains, as exemplified in the users who downvote factual information because they’d rather engage in confirmation bias and denial.

Everyone can read the declassified report on the Robertson Panel yourselves too. This is all verifiable, valid declassified government records.

GONADS125, (edited )

I’m not saying that UAP are definitively from aliens. There’s not enough evidence available to the public to support that claim. I’m saying I don’t believe that is as outlandish as it sounds at face value, once you consider the information confirmed by members/agencies of the U.S. government.

People are rejecting this topic as crazy due to the stigma, not due to lack of evidence supporting the existence of UAP. I don’t present evidence of aliens; I present evidence of crafts that represent breakthrough technology.

What I was trying to get at is that a non-human intelligence isn’t out of the question to explain the technology that is still ahead of our tech now in 2023, but has been confirmed to exist at least since 1947.

Even if that is human tech that was witnessed starting in 1947, it should be deeply concerning that a nation secretly possesses technology that superior to any publicly known modern day aircraft.

There’s a lot to my write-up on the topic. It’s overwhelming, but it’s factual information that is thoroughly cited from valid sources. I don’t talk about unfounded claims or abductions or anything like that.

Edit: This section might be more for you:

For the individuals that will not have the interest or patience to read this detailed information, I strongly recommend this National Geographic documentary: UFOs: Investigating the Unknown on Hulu. The first few episodes are available for free on Youtube.

That documentary is not like the History Channel’s big-haired nonsense…

TheOctonaut,

Sounds like your wife is having an affair with carbon monoxide

Kowlown,

Seriously check for it or buy a good detector

elbarto777,

Is your wife’s name “woosh”?

cyberpunk007,

Not even aliens? You really think there’s zero other life forms in this universe?

hyper,

I also don’t believe in aliens. The cliche Hollywood aliens that is that will abduct you and put probes inside you.

Im sure that there are other lifeforms in some other system just not the flying sorcerer type.

MelodiousFunk,
MelodiousFunk avatar

Im sure that there are other lifeforms in some other system just not the flying sorcerer type.

Ugh, I hope you're right. Flying aliens would be bad enough. But if the bastards can muticlass and use magic as well... we'd be doomed.

afraid_of_zombies,

Just setup a fountain with a toxic chemical in it with a sign to not drink from it. Based on every party I have ever been on half of them will be dead in minutes.

pixeltree,

Do other lifeforms exist? Sure. Have any ever visited earth? Definitely not.

Chailles,
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

Thirdly, if they were to visit Earth, do you really think that given the difficulty of traversing space, that you’d be able to identify signs of their arrival?

LemmyFeed,

Bruh… That voice was most definitely a magic ghost alien…

shinigamiookamiryuu,

You mean a teenage mutant ghost alien?

CarlsIII,

A religious magic ghost alien!!

tyrefyre,

I’m not sure you understand the term “take it to the grave”.

eluvatar,

This, every once in a while I consider sharing with my closest friend… And then nah

xkforce,

I hate quiche. She thought I love quiche and was so proud of herself every time she would make it. Never told her otherwise.

GustavoM,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

If you hold secrets and do not tell the whole thing (even the most disgusting stuff) to your SO… then it means that s/he is not that “special” anymore.

I mean, a relationship is never meant to be one-sided, but a “You and me” thing. And if you don’t think like that, then you are doing it wrong.

“So you are telling me to just throw random disgusting stuff to my SO?”

No. Call him/her in particular, “Hey can we talk a bit?”. It does wonders, that is all I can say about it.

t. Used to “play the tough guy” back in my early years. Took the “My life is an open book” route. Never looked back since then.

HelixDab2,

Not everything is relevant. Not everything that is truthful is kind. You seem to have this weird idea that you should prioritize your feelings in all things over your partners feelings, rather than understanding that something simply aren’t a big deal.

I don’t know too many–read: any–marriage and family therapists that would ever suggest you tell your SO every possible thing unless and until it became relevant. There are good reasons that people that practice radical honesty usually don’t have many friends.

afraid_of_zombies,

No, there is something called discretion. I don’t for example have to tell my wife what I think of her father. She loves him, my kids love him, I think he is a great father-in-law there is zero need for me to comment on his body odor issues to her.

GustavoM,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

there is something called discretion.

…and I said to call (whoever is troubling you) in particular and bring the issue up = discretion. And using your words well, you can even talk about someone’s lack of hygiene/odor.

afraid_of_zombies,

And I said that it is a pointless conversation to have. Tact is not discretion. Tact is the act of bringing up what needs to be brought up in a face saving way, discretion is not mentioning what doesn’t need to be mentioned. There is zero reason to mention this to her so I don’t.

Do you seriously do this? Tell your better half literal everything. Like if you noticed her brother was a bit ugly you would definitely make a point of mentioning it to her later.

This whole thing sounds performative and selfish. Like you want to be applauded for it. Have you thought about how she feels? Knowing that any mean nasty observation you might have will be pointed out to her in a passive aggressive way.

GustavoM,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

And I said that it is a pointless conversation to have.

Why are you bringing so many random problems/issues out of this? That (most likely) not even exist let alone happen? It’s just a conversation, not a threat. If anything, it tells a lot about you, heh.

afraid_of_zombies,

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  • GustavoM,
    @GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

    There’s no “motives” when they don’t exist – you just extrapolated the whole thing for the sake of lack of arguments.

    And resorting to low blows won’t prove you right and neither set me as “wrong”, but only show you that you’ve let yourself get emotionally triggered in a 3 minute long convo.

    “It tells a lot about you” indeed. :^)

    I rest my case.

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

    "hey, babe, I just wanna vent about my day for a little if that's okay"

    "Must you point out every nasty observation in a passive aggressive way? Enjoy your selfish performance"

    ramenshaman,

    I shat myself in 2018

    EpicFailGuy,
    @EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world avatar

    Nice try Susan! You’re not going to get me to confess THAT easily.

    By the way, child support may be a little late this moth …

    I’ll see you at Christmas dinner

    jaspersgroove,

    When she snores I pinch her nose shut until she stops.

    MyFairJulia,
    @MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

    You could try to fix this from a very different angle by buying those strips for the nose against snoring. Those strips can temporarily unobstruct the air flow in the nose.

    Gorgeous_Sloth,

    Oh that I tell her in the morning

    umulu,
    @umulu@lemmy.world avatar

    Your wife must be a deep sleeper. Mine would be awake in an instant.

    Donebrach,
    @Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

    Snoring is often a sign of sleep apnea, which is easily treatable. Your wife should take a sleep test to see if she has it. Can take years off your life if left undiagnosed.

    Piecemakers3Dprints,
    @Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

    So can stopping her breathing.

    jaspersgroove,

    For her it’s usually a sign that she had 3 or 4 too many white claws before she went to bed.

    ImpossibilityBox, (edited )

    My wife and I were (emphasis on WERE) raised in very religious circles and as such we were “saving ourselves” for marriage at the beginning of our relationship. I was already drifting away from the religious world and thought this practice was dumb but loved her enough for innumerable other reasons that I would go through basically whatever to wait for her.

    4 years into our 7 year dating relationship I was very stupid and ended up having a drunken three way with two of her best friends in a public park. Long story. My S.O. never found out from any of us.

    One of the women contacted me nearly a decade later drunk and crying in order to confess that she had gotten pregnant from the encounter and had gotten an abortion with her parents help but never told anyone else.

    My wife and I dated for 7 years and have been married for just short of 9 years. I moved us to the other side of the country for work to limit the possible interactions with her former friends, and encouraged her in many ways to have as large a friend group as possible in our new life to curtail the desire to reach out to our old group. New address and new phone numbers to make it more difficult for people to find us out of the blue. This will never see the light of day in our relationship.

    I love my wife to the ends of the earth and back, this is the one thing (other than the consistency of my bowel movements) I will ever keep from her.

    Edit: Spelling

    Piecemakers3Dprints,
    @Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s it, folks. Pack it up, thread’s closed. This guy wins.

    For fucks sake, man. 😐

    ComfyMuffin,

    Holy shit

    OceanSoap,

    Your poor wife. A terrible husband and two terrible best friends. I hope she find someone who loves her enough not to sleep with her friends, or sleep with her husband.

    Iamdanno,

    If you don’t trudt and respect her enough to tell her the truth, you don’t love her, you’re just afraid to lose her.

    j4k3,
    @j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

    The complete past-lovers list. (not a cheat/just needless drama)

    sysadmin420,

    The… The what now?

    211,

    How much my flute cost. (It’s from my fun money, and a bargain for what it is, but still.)

    Minarble,

    You don’t want to flaunt flute failings

    Whisp,

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  • GentlemanLoser,

    How the hell do you fuck up honey mustard

    chuckleslord,

    “I think the cough syrup really rounds out the flavor profile. Works with the hot sauce undertones quite well”

    Rai,

    Hey, if it’s codeine cough syrup I’d deal with it.

    i_love_FFT, (edited )
    @i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml avatar

    My secret is that I know I’m actually the only real human, and everybody else are aliens posing as humans to study my behavior. That’s why I purposefully make random decisions and actions from time to time, to throw them off.

    I still have to figure out if I’m the last human alive, if every remaining human is being studied like me, or if there is a real human society somewhere.

    WeLoveCastingSpellz,

    Woooo I am gonna lay my eggs in your stomach woooo 🛸

    AccidentalLemming,

    That’s why I purposefully make random decisions and actions from time to time, to their them off.

    It’s working… we’ve successfully tricked him into thinking he has free will.

    afraid_of_zombies,

    Reminds me so much of a particular Philip K. Dick story. A solider’s tour in Korea is over and returning home he notices that everything is fake. Artificial sweetener, instant coffee, faux leather shoes, hair styles, etc. He gets the idea that the aliens took over the US and setup a few fake burbs for the soldiers returning home, to isolate them and eventually pick them off one by one.

    partial_accumen,

    I suppose we should tell them now.

    You’re not actual a “real human.” You’re an alien just like us, but we convinced you that you were human so we could study “human behavior”. One behavior we’ve identified is paranoia.

    sjpwarren,

    Who said they are paranoid?

    Piecemakers3Dprints,
    @Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

    By definition, it’s not paranoia if they’re actually after you.

    afraid_of_zombies,

    No it’s not. Paranoia refers to your emotions not your situation. Just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean you do not have enemies.

    oldGregg,

    It wasn’t an accident.

    morphballganon,

    Ha, nice try ComfyMuffin

    KammicRelief,

    LOLLL

    Pons_Aelius,

    Don't answer, the OP is a demon looking for a reason to kill you.

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