Christian Science does not agree with the theory that morals grow out of people’s behavior. It stands firmly on the ground that morals for mankind are derived from the divine Mind, God, and that they are therefore ageless. Morally right behavior pertaining to sex was revealed by Moses.
The healing of homosexuality—and many such cases have been genuinely healed
Citation needed.
P. S. A list by a kindly person long ago in red place of things forbidden by the old testament ( with biblical citation!):
<span style="color:#323232;">Eating rabbits, pigs, or camels.
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Leviticus 11:4 “Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.”
<span style="color:#323232;">No shellfish, clams, oysters, urchins, or lobsters.
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Leviticus 11:10 “And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you.”
<span style="color:#323232;">No eating cats, dogs, and ferrets
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Leviticus 11:27 “And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on all four, those are unclean unto you: whoso toucheth their carcase shall be unclean until the even.”
Leviticus 11:28–29 “These also shall be unclean unto you among the creeping things that creep upon the earth; the weasel, and the mouse, and the tortoise after his kind, and the ferret, and the chameleon, and the lizard, and the snail, and the mole.”
<span style="color:#323232;">Don't eat fat or blood
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Leviticus 3:17 “It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood"
<span style="color:#323232;">You cannot eat certain birds.
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Leviticus 11:13–20 “These are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the osprey, and the vulture, and the kite after his kind; every raven after his kind; and the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind, and the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl, and the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat. All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.”
<span style="color:#323232;">If you wear ripped jeans, you're going to burn.
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Leviticus 10:6 “Uncover not your heads, neither rend your clothes; lest ye die, and lest wrath come upon all the people.”
<span style="color:#323232;">Oh, yeah. You also can't wear mixed cloth, bitch.
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Leviticus 19:19 “Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.”
<span style="color:#323232;">No short haircuts
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Leviticus 19:27 “Ye shall not round the corners of your heads.”
Leviticus 19:18 “Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people.”
<span style="color:#323232;">Touch a dirty puppy? BURN!
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Leviticus 5:2 “If a soul touch any unclean thing, whether it be a carcase of an unclean beast, or a carcase of unclean cattle, or the carcase of unclean creeping things, and if it be hidden from him; he also shall be unclean, and guilty.”
<span style="color:#323232;">Wait...so less church is good?
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Leviticus 12:4–5 “And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.”
<span style="color:#323232;">No alcohol in church (people probably don't do this anyw- oh wait)
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Leviticus 10:9 “Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die.”
<span style="color:#323232;">No manual labor on Saturdays.
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Leviticus 23:3 “Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.”
<span style="color:#323232;">No going to church after birth.
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Leviticus 12:2 “Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.”
Leviticus 19:31 “Do not turn to mediums or spiritists…”
<span style="color:#323232;">Pull out=die
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Genesis 38:9-10 “Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord; so He took his life also.”
<span style="color:#323232;">No divorce
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Mark 10:9 “What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.”
Deuteronomy 23:1 “A man whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off may never join the assembly of the Lord.”
<span style="color:#323232;">No jewelry
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Timothy 2:9 “Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments.”
<span style="color:#323232;">If someone's attacking you, you can't grab your attacker's privates.
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Deuteronomy 25:11-25:12 “If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity.”
<span style="color:#323232;">Don't fuck your wife's mom
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Leviticus 20:14 “'If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you.”
<span style="color:#323232;">Don't go to church if you're Asian.
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Leviticus 21:17 “Say to Aaron: ‘For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; nor his nose or eyes be flat."
<span style="color:#323232;">Kill anyone with a different religion than Christianity
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Deuteronomy 17:2-17:7
<span style="color:#323232;">“If there is found in your midst, in any of your [a]towns, which the Lord your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, by transgressing His covenant, 3 and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, 4 and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, 5 then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to [b]death. 6 On the [c]evidence of two witnesses or three witnesses, he who is to die shall be put to death; he shall not be put to death on the [d]evidence of one witness. 7 The hand of the witnesses shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. So you shall purge the evil from your midst."
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">Don't say "Fuck you, mom!" Even if you're a rebellious teen.
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“Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.”
<span style="color:#323232;">If you've ever cheated on someone, you're going to Hell.
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Leviticus 20:10 “If a man commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, both the man and the woman who have committed adultery must be put to death.”
<span style="color:#323232;">If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their community"
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“If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her menstrual period, both of them must be cut off from the community, for together they have exposed the source of her blood flow.”
<span style="color:#323232;">Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard
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Leviticus 19:10 “Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. I am the Lord your God.”
Leviticus 2:11 “Do not use yeast in preparing any of the grain offerings you present to the LORD, because no yeast or honey may be burned as a special gift presented to the LORD.”
<span style="color:#323232;">Buying a house.
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Leviticus 25:23 “The land must never be sold on a permanent basis, for the land belongs to me. You are only foreigners and tenant farmers working for me.”
Leviticus 19:33-19:34 “the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born”
<span style="color:#323232;">Stand when you talk to grandpa.
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Leviticus 19:32 “Stand up in the presence of the elderly, and show respect for the aged. Fear your God. I am the LORD”
<span style="color:#323232;">Lying
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Leviticus 19:11 "Do not steal. “Do not deceive or cheat one another.”
<span style="color:#323232;">Cheating
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Leviticus 19:11 "Do not steal. “Do not deceive or cheat one another.”
Funny how so many Christians nowadays say homosexuality is an abomination, when they are committing abominations themselves when they say this.
I’m a straight supporter of the LGBT community, and I’m proud of it. Are you, too?
Bonus! The raped person must marry their own rapist!
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
I knew of some of these but this is a really good list! Saving this so I have these in my pocket when I need to point out the absurdities to someone trying to use religion against me.
The Old Testament
In the garden of Eden, they were to eat from fruit trees except one.
After that, the were given leave to eat all.
After that, God made a covenant with them: Circumcision, Reenforced daily cleanness and uncleanness.
He required Circumcision & cleanness in not only the body, but also in the heart.
For the rest
There are reasons.
Above all, God is also a father.
You love disorder, so I'll assume you are LGBTQ+Satan defender.
A father should be obeyed.
Without the father, the children wouldn't exist.
It is wise to obey your father.
Your father loves you.
A father should not spoil their children.
A father is free to correct his child.
First, I’d suggest you to take some classes on writing and syntax, your posts are barely readable and understandable.
Second, the old testament is the foundation of the new one so its core tenants are still considered valid by all Christian denominations, some even recognizing it more authority in respect to the new testament.
Third, a father should be obeyed AS LONG AS he is a reasonable and caring father. An abusive or violent parent should not be obeyed just like a tyrannical or undemocratic ruler shouldn’t, expecially if they ask for something causing stress or harm to his children/subjects.
Fourth, a child would also not exist without his mother but in your Christian mindset this is never taken into account.
Barely readable because you are Italian. (Italians bear with me for a while.)
Barely understandable? What then can you understand?
"Second, the old testament": More display of ignorance.
Children too don't like to go to school. I can understand.
School is stressful to children. But they need to be educated to get a job (self employed or not).
Taking bath is stressful to children (they even shout and yell).
The ear of female children needs to be bored for ear rings (great harm).
There is one God.
Two Gods: A problem (who created the other?)
In the order of things here on earth,
We have carnal fathers and mothers.
Spiritually, we have fathers and mothers too.
You speak English because is your mother tongue, I speak English because that’s the only language you can understand. We are not the same.
There’s a difference in forcing a child to go to school and forcing a child to blindly follow the tenants of a cult established by uneducated people living more than 2000 years ago. In the first case you are forcing your authority on the child to provide him with the tools needed to be accomplished in this life, as our history as a species has shown for the past two centuries, when child teaching has started to become more and more common also for the poorest classes in our societies while also our standard of living have been improving steadily. In the second one you are forcing unreasonable and, in some cases, even conflicting beliefs not based in any logic or research but in pure faith alone. What if your son does not share the same beliefs as you? Who are you to force these onto him without a single shread of evidence proving their innate validity? What if you are wrong about the afterlife and Muslims, Buddhist or any other religion are right? Are you ready to bring upon yourself and upon your child eternal damnation due to your decisions?
Lastly there is no god. Or at least there is no god as it is described by Christianity or any other major religion. God is a concept completely alien to humans, were we able to understand it we would be god’s ourselves. Since this is not the case one can only logically assume that we still haven’t find the right “god” to worship
That is the reason this present life is difficult. There are counterfeits to true things.
Be sincere with yourself and see the disorder in LGBTQ+ first, before other judgements.
You don't become what you understand.
God revealed himself to us (Moyes and others). We did not create the concept (though you'll arrive at that by philosophy (Plato, Aristotle)).
From the beginning, Adam walked with God...
Others born were like you and I (clean memory that needs to be educated).
But at the end, the people that are God's people will see God.
Well then, wait for god to show himself to you and you alone while, at the same time, leaving everyone else free to live their lives as they see fit for themselves.
Remember what Jesus has left as only commandments: don’t judge if you don’t want to be judged and love the others as you love yourself. Of course these are two commandments which are not applicable for modern rightoids as they are well too ready to judge others and hate their neighbours if they don’t think as they would like them to but this is something they will have to discuss with their god once they’ll leave this earth. Until them we will be in their way when they’ll try to fix the their false religion and god upon us non-believers as our constitutions and legal frameworks allow us to do.
Lmao, you call me ignorant while at the same time displaying the greatest level of hypocrisy you are putting up for the holiday season it’s priceless.
Let me remind you that you believe a con man to be a saint despite the catholic church evaluation of said con man. Talk about ignorance.
I won’t be judged by god in the end because I don’t believe god to be interested in our human activities. With the whole cosmos at her fingertips loosing time watching a sad reality show as the one we are currently putting in place in this plant would qualify her as a very low-intelligence being, which I think does not fit the definition of a god.
Lastly I’m not going anywhere since you aren’t providing any truth at all in your statements.
New Testament You picked only two words
You will be judged by God at the end.
Judge just judgement.
The saints will judge the world. There are others...
Thou shalt not kill.
Is this thread not about what and what not to eat (kill, cook & eat)?
In Maths texts, if we treat BODMAS in chapter 1, we don't copy the entire chapter 1 into chapter 2.
The “natural behaviour” argument also bear no weight to the discussion since homosexual intercourse is well documented in a number of animal species thus rendering this a “natural” act as many others.
LGBTQ+ (which you are part of) are deranged.
It is a disorder (even if seen in a number of animal species).
You cannot distinguish between right and wrong (even if seen in a number of animal species).
Well, at least I don’t use people’ sexual preferences, which they cannot choose, to be a dick to them. I can see what’s right and wrong there while you clearly can’t.
The healing of religion—and many such cases have been genuinely healed—comes, like the healing of any other abnormal condition, through the application of the truths of life and man as taught in Science. These truths include rational thought, scientific theory and experimentation, rejection of groupthink, and the elevation and celebration of fellow women and men as Equals.
There is nothing that cannot be cured.
When the cure comes from God, it is called miracle.
Look up Padre Pio. It hasn't been that long since his death.
Food is sweet, but not every substance is to be taken (poison, your 12-year old boy).
Eyeglasses to the eye, and knives to vegetables (things have purpose).
Syphilis is rightly a disorder, so is marriage with a boiling pot (dis + order).
Some people are bully, and they love that about themselves.
Your youthfulness will still fade,
You'll grow old and will need another's help.
You'll die one day, and after death comes judgement.
If you love yourself, choose one suffering.
Suffering twice is: in this world and after judgement in hell.
A wise person will choose to suffer once.
We have to give God thanks for everything, even if not by miracle (by practice).
I am talking about Christianity.
Government is people (president, vice, ministers, senators).
They too eat and go to toilet.
You shouldn't fear them (but you must not commit crime/killings).
Drones and robots are man-made.
Just like bombs, gun etc.
If they kill people, know that man/evil government... (pressed the KILL button).
Well. If you are young, may God preserve your innocency. If you are not young; it means that eyeglasses goes to the eye while knives goes to vegetables.
Marriage should be between a man and a woman. Everything other than that is a perversion.
Doing things done in marriage outside of marriage is a perversion.
Summary of all is this: Always seek what pleases God in all you do.
Let me ruin the suspense for you: no, he won’t answer any if your questions nor will he reply to any if your points. He will just go on shitting on your life because it doesn’t fit the narrative he was spoon-fed about an invisible man in the sky silently judging everything we do and punishing those who are deemed “evil” and nothing else.
Just another brainwashed sheep in the flock of the lord, no hope to have a normal conversation with this one
It sounded like you were talking about the same thing to me. Besides, why is that relevant? Moving on to another topic doesn’t mean you don’t have to answer questions about the previous one.
Rebellious question.
Is that an insult where you come from? Because it’s a compliment around here. You’re a stranger on the internet, not my dad. Why should I look up to you?
Besides, even if you were my dad, I was raised to question my parents and make my own decisions once I was old enough to understand. We ask questions to arrive at the truth, not to more accurately ascertain the will of whoever has the most authority.
Padre Pio was one of the biggest scammer southern Italy was ever plagued by and he did more damages to this land than any of the mafia family living there has ever done.
I’m glad he died the horrible way he did and I hope he is now rotting in a metaphorical hell where he belong.
Source: I’m an Italian who has seen the mental and social damages caused by this fucker
Because I don’t have anything to repent about. I bear no original sin and I haven’t done anything for which I haven’t given my apologies would I have ever hurt someone.
I don’t need to subject my loyalty to anyone if not myself as I alone am arbiter and judge of my own actions
No it doesn't matter. I have video evidence of some of his works.
A very holy person can still be in LGBTQ+ country like America (Americans bear with me).
Padre Pio was a monk. He was met by different people with different problems.
You seem skilled in character aspersion.
Southern Italy in the time of the 2nd world war might be the bar for you...
So what do you have against Padre Pio (specific accusation like he robbed Mr. A).
Saints don't fear death.
Padre Pio bore the wounds of Christ on himself (Just like St. Francis of Assisi).
Wounds of Christ = great suffering.
He gave sight to the blind, healed many spiritually too.
Don't throw words into the air. What is your accusation against him?
Others are Italians too.
Mental and Social damage like LGBTQ+?
Padre Pio did not invent Medical Microscope.
That is not his job.
Lmao, your ignorance about this subject shows immediately.
Padre Pio was considered a scammer by the Catholic church itself and was also found to be a fraud when visited by the doctors sent by the pope to determine if the scars he showed to his followers were of divine origin. When analysed the doctors found that they were most likely self inflicted wounds (there’s also the testimony of a pharmacist who sold this con man some carbolic acid) and that he was putting forward a show for his followers, so much so that he was denied the right to celebrate mass for his schemes. It was John Paul the 2nd who canonized him in 2002 because he realized that if he wanted the support of the gullible people in southern Italy he would have needed to give them something in return; and so he did, by making him a saint against the better judgment of Benedict the 15th and of Pio the 11th, the popes who lived during his times and who barred him from celebrating mass.
I’d love to give you some references to educate you but unfortunately most of the material is in Italian language and your ignorance prevents you from accessing it.
Padre Pio did not invent the microscope but he was able to create a cult worshipping his image in lieu of god, a sin which should be very grave according to the Christian faith tenets
No. You are a story teller. Your source is mainly calumny.
Anybody can do that to Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Padre Pio. In fact, stigmas of Christ is not something new in the Church.
When something miraculous begins, it has to be investigated.
According to my source, people wanted him out of the way.
According to my source, there was no carbolic acid mentioned.
According to my source, doctors examined with wonders (lots of blood loss).
He lived in a monastery. You don't need a doctor to declare it was a fraud if it was really a fraud.
Perhaps the whole monastery was involved?
Pope Pius 11 had no letter against Padre Pio.
Your story is full of interpolations and holes.
And I see your trust in the 'popes' here.
Catholics don't worship images. (Your ignorance again).
Padre Pio lived through the 1st and 2nd world war, and he fought modernism tooth and nail. Please give me your Italian reference (even a child could read Italian these days).
Make sure it is Catholic (that is what you claimed) (or don't worry, I will accept any link).
Italian references!
He cured the blind, restored the deaf, and many more.
Thousands of miracles have been performed by different people in the past and yet we still have atheists.
Like I said, we are all born with a clean memory. If we read calumny, we will believe calumny.
But read about Padre Pio from a true source.
I need his sources.
You guys never seem to learn. LGBTQ+ has damaged people.
I'm sure many want to get back to normal.
Those that are strong will get back to normal.
Oh yeah and yesterday evening I have had a great sex encounter with both Mary Magdalene and Eve. They did very nice things to my cock and I did enjoy every minute with them.
Don’t believe me? It was a miracle, I don’t have to provide you with any proof and you cannot argue it didn’t happen
That is it. Perversion.
Those that are wise, will already see that this is perversion.
Ice cream is cold.
Coffee is hot.
One can move from whatever state he/she is currently in.
Those that want to change should really seek help from God.
God is everywhere.
And when you are converted, your speech won't be pervasion, but words seasoned with salt.
Lmao, my speech is already not pervasion as this word does not exist.
In my opinion you should seek help from a good shrink but I know you won’t and I accept you the way you are.
Still going to counterargument all your points because religion is fake and a scam to poor, uneducated people but I would not dare to strip you of your right to be conned
I really don’t know the meaning of this word and, as a foreigner educated in your language, I’d like to ask you to show me the definition of this lemma. I admit my ignorance in this matter
You are as ignorant as adamant in your ignorance so I don’t think this will make any difference for your bigoted mindset but still it’s funny to see you squirm while trying to justify your position.
I used the popes version of the story just because they should be considered the highest authority by people like you. If they did decide something that should be the law for all Catholics or are you suggesting you have more authority than the popes who lived during padre Pio’s time?
Catholics do worship images, have you ever heard of so called “holy cards”? Italy is full of it and in Pietrelcina there’s a very profitable business running around them.
When something miraculous begins, it has to be investigated.
Three lines under this statement
He lived in a monastery. You don’t need a doctor to declare it was a fraud if it was really a fraud.
Even though I made repetitions? Too bad.
So what was I wrong about...
You don't believe the article you sent me.
You only believe his prohibition (not condemnation) and not the reversion of the prohibition.
Don't forget calumny was flying... (Time to pray).
Even St. Joseph of Cupertino had a similar condemnation and reversion story.
Like the link stated, he had many enemies who wanted him out of the way. He was misreported to Pius 11 probably.
Even St. Bernadette, they had the Grotto barred at first.
Many people in the course of History have been laid greater allegations, but at the end, the dark cloud normally clears.
And can you show me a link also where Catholics say they worship images?
Just 12 euros for a set of “santini” with dedicated prayers on the back! Hurry up, stock is low and gullible people are abound!
He refused to be visited by a doctor designated by the sant’Uffizio because he knew he would have been found a con. He was reinstated by people living well beyond his time and unable to corroborate or contradict his statements so it bear no weight in defining whether his wounds were of divine origin or not.
When exumed from his tomb his body presented the normal state of decay a cadaver should be at after 40 years.
He was a con man who had the luck to be born when the catholic church needed a con man to recover a bit of the influence it was losing due to people better education and he was used by the church itself exactly for this scope.
The same goes for the three poor children who were taken advantage of by the church with their story about Mary appearance. So far all the profecies related to their tale have been proven unfounded, will there ever be a time when Christians will wake up from their fever dreams and start acting as normal humans in social environments? Only time will tell
You mean the Dancing Sun of Fatima?
We, just like in the old Testament, we also have prophets. Most prophecies were about the great apostasy.
You are full of half-baked stories.
Italy is barely Catholic now. What are those two beads supposed to represent? I suggest praying Rosaries instead. It is traditional, and has a lot of indulgences.
Delete all the images on all your devices, and brake all the statues in the law court and on every street.
Catholics pray with things and not to things.
It is better to look at an image of Jesus than to look at a bare wall.
By the way, going outside and touch grass is a much better choice than watching an image of Jesus or a bare wall but there are many other options at your disposal, such as DnD, music, art, sports, literature or any other passtime you maybe believe to be satanic or whatever. Don’t throw your only chance at life away following something you can’t see or prove it’s there
He died of an heart attack at 81 years old, just like a normal man would do. No golden carriage descending from the heavens to collect his body nor no resurrection three days after his death.
A con man dying like a normal human after a life of lies and peddled “miracles” to poor, uneducated people.
Until proven contrary it’s not me who has decided to submit his will and reason to the tenets of a religion which doesn’t even consider treating men and women as equals.
A little projection about the bondage bit? Or a repressed sexual arousal around ropes and chains? Only you can tell us
No hate from me dude, it’s you who is hating homosexual people because they love who they love, without choosing it and without any fault of their own. You really are a full-time projector, uhu? Never thought about working into cinemas? XD XD XD
The bible says not to judge yet you’re judging Fabio and LGBTQ.
“1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
youre literally arguing with a flat earther, check their username and post history. you arent going to reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselves into.
I know but still sometimes I cannot let go and I have to follow for a couple of days these kind of people just to remind them they are no longer in touch with this world, hoping that this will prevent them by spreading their nonsensical reasoning in real life by giving them a good dose of preemptive shame.
A long shot, I know, but a man has to indulge in some vices from time to time ;)
If God says murder is cool now, is it cool now? If yes, then your system of morals is arbitrary. If no, then God is only following a moral law, rather than creating it.
That’s what scares the fuck out of me when it comes to major religions. If the Pope one day said, “rise up and kill” and only 1% of Catholics followed his orders, the bloodbath would be vast.
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