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Mango, in Card game developer says it paid an 'AI artist' $90,000 to generate card art because 'no one comes close to the quality he delivers'. Can you guess what the "cards" are? In 2024, even

The cards are certainly highly detailed and I’m pretty sure that’s what they think at quality is. They unfortunately lack any kind of unifying artistic direction. The sad truth is that there’s plenty of kids out there dumping their allowance on shitty generic gachapon stuff and other similar games. This one will do just fine in that crowd while people with taste see the market for what’s good evaporate.

It happened with audio. Audiophiles hate on people who overpay for garbage and those people who but the garbage and justify the shitty market will defend their garbage like it’s their identity.

Look at Pokemon. What mattered about Pokemon has been replaced with focus group nonsense. People still buy it up.

Here’s the thing about art. If it’s got nothing to say, it’s just eye candy at best.

froztbyte,

I’ve said this to someone else before here, and I’ll repeat it for you now: you need to look at better art

o7___o7,
@o7___o7@awful.systems avatar

Here’s the thing about art. If it’s got nothing to say, it’s just eye candy at best.

Oscar Wilde has entered the chat

Sanctus, in Card game developer says it paid an 'AI artist' $90,000 to generate card art because 'no one comes close to the quality he delivers'. Can you guess what the "cards" are? In 2024, even
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t believe for a second there is an artist in the game industry with zero social media. You need it for networking.

GenderNeutralBro, in Card game developer says it paid an 'AI artist' $90,000 to generate card art because 'no one comes close to the quality he delivers'. Can you guess what the "cards" are? In 2024, even

I haven’t looked closely at these specific cards so I have nothing to say on their subjective artistic merit, but I agree with the principles here:

  1. Art has value and artists deserve to be paid.
  2. AI is a tool artists can use to make art. (It does not make art on its own.)
  3. Creating high quality AI art is not a simple or unskilled task. Not just anybody can use AI and magically get good results.

For those not familiar with the processes used with AI image generators, take a look at ComfyUI. The processing graphs (or “hypernetworks”) of ComfyUI can be arbitrarily complex, and if you have specific design goals, it takes a lot of know-how to use effectively. You can look at examples at comfyworkflows.com, and you can see the hypernetworks used for each example image. Some of these have dozens of connected networks, each with specific configurations. It’s really neat!

Again, I have no opinion on (or interest in criticizing) these particular examples of AI-generated/AI-assisted art. I’m just talking about the technique. You can make shitty art in any medium, and seriously, most art in any given medium is shitty, so don’t judge the medium by a few examples. Try to look at the potential hidden behind those examples. Picture an image in your head, and think about what it would actually take to make that (not just something vaguely resembling it) using AI. I guarantee you, it’s not as simple as “type in a prompt”! This is especially true in the context of larger artistic works that require coherency between images (like, say, a consistent character design). It’s possible to do that today, but it requires a lot of skill and practice. It will likely get a lot easier in the future, and more importantly, artists will hone their skills over time, the way they do with every medium.

And if you want to get really specific, you probably need to train or finetune some networks for yourself. That’s a whole other layer of complexity and power.

Soyweiser, in Card game developer says it paid an 'AI artist' $90,000 to generate card art because 'no one comes close to the quality he delivers'. Can you guess what the "cards" are? In 2024, even

“His art is 100% AI generated, yet it has no extra fingers, no generic designs”

“no generic designs”

lol

stevedidwhat_infosec, in Card game developer says it paid an 'AI artist' $90,000 to generate card art because 'no one comes close to the quality he delivers'. Can you guess what the "cards" are? In 2024, even

The delusions and paranoia around AI man it never ends. This market would so easily be undercut it would make your head spin lmao.

Imo things should only ever get cheaper and easier for us to do, but then you have these capitalist obsessives that just want to hoard money and power and refuse to make a better living for their neighbors (deserving or not, in the name of progressing as a species)

froztbyte, in Card game developer says it paid an 'AI artist' $90,000 to generate card art because 'no one comes close to the quality he delivers'. Can you guess what the "cards" are? In 2024, even

fucking hell, looking at those images is a who’s who of identifying stolen imagery, over and above the milquetoast extrageneric hallmark blandness

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe,
AlwaysNowNeverNotMe avatar

"milquetoast extra generic blandness" isn't that just corporate art as a whole?

froztbyte,

look I don’t want to be fucking carrying water for fucking corporations this early in the morning, but that’s a disingenious remark

fucked (and possibly/likely corrupt) as their motivations for doing this shit may be, there are nonetheless examples of interesting) and/or notable art originated/bought/funded by corporates

the issue of these ML genimage platforms and their signature mellow output is substantially somewhat different, and the very point of my post was the fucking theft and derivative nature of the output product

walter_wiggles, in Card game developer says it paid an 'AI artist' $90,000 to generate card art because 'no one comes close to the quality he delivers'. Can you guess what the "cards" are? In 2024, even

The artist is probably outsourcing the actual work to a hundred poor souls for peanuts.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Hundreds of ai chat bots who went to AI image bots who are actually thousands of poor souls.

Anticorp,

Why? An AI can spit out amazing images in about 30 seconds. That’s why I’m confused with them saying they paid a person $90k for AI art. Put a description in the chat box with a $20 per month subscription and get exactly what is on these cards.

mawhrin,
@mawhrin@awful.systems avatar

i’m quite sure you can point us to at least one such image. (one’s enough, thank you.)

Anticorp, (edited )

Every image on every post in this community was created through simple word prompts using AI generators:

lemmy.ca/c/thelyricsgame

Edit: here, I created these two images for you in about 30 seconds using the following prompt:

Create a playing card that looks similar to a magic the gathering card. The card should be titled “Fortress”. Use an epic looking tortoise to for the image of the card, using the artistic style from the Hearthstone game. Give it some flavor text indicating that it boost’s your defensive attributes

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9cec5323-68a8-423c-8575-e728e0b0b6a2.webp

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/45d35505-750c-4366-b64f-0b3dbc4dbf0d.webp

Some basic editing could be used to add the title, and update the flavor text. Or I could spend another 2 minutes getting the AI to do that itself.

froztbyte,

So are you going to share any of those amazing images, or…?

Anticorp,

You’re surrounded by technology that was barely a dream ten years ago, and you’re so jaded with cynicism that you can’t even see the possibilities. K. Good luck with that.

froztbyte,

On the off chance you see this later (perhaps in rageclicking to see why you can’t post here anymore), it’s actually quite the inverse that applies: I’m remarkably optimistic (surprisingly so, given all the shit in the world). This post recently crossed my feed and it applies rather well.

But to really spell it out for you: you’re carrying water for extremely harmful systems, built out at scale with no true regard for their present or future impact on people, the environment, or the world otherwise. And you wandered in here. Congratulations on being given a lesson. I hope you learn from it.

mawhrin,
@mawhrin@awful.systems avatar

can you tell me in your own words what makes these images “amazing”? three paragraphs, no llm output, and i assume you’re familiar with basic drawing principles?

peanuts4life, in Card game developer says it paid an 'AI artist' $90,000 to generate card art because 'no one comes close to the quality he delivers'. Can you guess what the "cards" are? In 2024, even
@peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Plot twist, the “artist” is the ceo’s significant other and a $20 gpt subscription.

Bunnylux, in Card game developer says it paid an 'AI artist' $90,000 to generate card art because 'no one comes close to the quality he delivers'. Can you guess what the "cards" are? In 2024, even
@Bunnylux@lemmy.world avatar

Booooooooo

Euphorazine, in All my apes

Maybe off topic, but can you realistically “steal” crypto? It’s just a system where you need a key to authorize transactions. It’s not tied to a person, it’s tied to a key.

It’s like, “who you are” part of authentication doesn’t exist, so therefore who you are wouldn’t define ownership.

0x0,

Yes, you can steal crypto?

Deconstruct the ledger or what have you, but real world people have a concept of ownership that is sufficient to define theft.

dgerard,
@dgerard@awful.systems avatar

there used to be coiners who advocated precisely this theory of ownership, but we tend to hear these days from the captains of industry who desperately seek out the statist boot to lick when their apes are cryptographically reassigned

LesserAbe,

Can you really “steal” money? It’s just paper with numbers written on it, just because the person who possesses the paper has changed doesn’t mean the paper has.

Euphorazine,

Yeah, but if you steal my money, the centralized state can punish you and demand restitution. It’s like when Seth Greene had his NFT phished, he had no legal recourse to get it back.

Has there been any case where people stealing crypto got them in trouble? The only thing I’ve seen is where people create rug pulls and they get charged with fraud, so legal repercussions against an organization.

dgerard,
@dgerard@awful.systems avatar

Has there been any case where people stealing crypto got them in trouble?

lol holy shit

Ajen,

Sam Bankman-Fried was sentenced to 25 years for stealing crypto. I’m sure other people have been charged too, but someone who gets caught stealing $100 of crypto probably won’t make the news.

Soyweiser,

Other peoples crypto? No. My crypto? Yes.

gnomicutterance, in All my apes
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  • roscoe,

    I have no idea who the fuck this guy is, nor do I care. But it’s it really $500K or is it a couple pics of apes that he says is worth $500K but he wouldn’t be able to sell for more than $500?

    Maybe deep down he knows he didn’t really lose anything so he’s not freaking out.

    Ginger666, in All my apes

    Dude if you have 500k in crypto, how do you not have hardware wallets?

    Edit: new keyboard still learning

    TragicNotCute,
    @TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

    Absolute insanity. Makes me think this is fake.

    froztbyte,

    fake? because of 500k? have you not seen these fools?

    dgerard,
    @dgerard@awful.systems avatar

    sir has evidently had the considerable good fortune not to encounter coiners

    TragicNotCute, (edited )
    @TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean, I own crypto and believe in it, but I generally stay away from crypto fanatics on either side.

    froztbyte,

    Friendly word of advice that you may, in fact, be lost

    TragicNotCute,
    @TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

    Y’all were on /all, so I decided to stop by. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    SkyezOpen,

    I own crypto and believe in it

    Believe in it to what end?

    Amoeba_Girl,
    @Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems avatar

    I own crystals and believe in their healing powers, but I generally stay away from fanatics on either side.

    Zink,

    Or at least a few million in your other diversified investments. You didn’t put it ALL in crypto, right?

    michael, in All my apes

    coiners: self-custody!
    also coiners: oh no, how can I make this issue caused by my own actions due to self-custody somebody else’s problem?

    dgerard, in All my apes
    @dgerard@awful.systems avatar

    What happen ?
    Somebody set up us the rug.
    We get signal.
    What !
    Main screen turn on.
    It’s you !!
    How are you degentlemen !!
    All your ape are belong to us.
    You are on the way to destitution.
    What you say !!
    You have no chance to survive make your time.
    Ha ha ha ha …
    Captain !!
    Take off every ‘SCAM’!!
    You know what you doing.
    Move ‘SCAM’.
    For great injustice.

    xep, in All my apes

    extension attacked

    Either Chrome has a vulnerability that lets extensions install themselves, or his system is far more compromised than he thinks it is.

    dgerard,
    @dgerard@awful.systems avatar

    NFTs can contain code that messes with your Metamask wallet. SVG NFTs can contain JavaScript. Now, you might think any attention would be paid to security.

    merthyr1831,

    no way can you make Trojan horse nfts 😭😭😭 what a stupid system

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