This will definitely get me on a watchlist
How do y’all cope with this
How do y’all cope with this
ChildlessZamboni, Final Fantasy VII
some_guy, I highly recommend this excellent film: How to Blow Up a Pipeline
MediciPrime, I wouldn’t…reeks of fed infiltrates. Plus no point since it’s too far gone, read Breaking Together by Jem Bendell instead.
p1mrx, (edited ) It would be more productive to ask your congressperson to support a carbon fee and dividend, so that carbon emitters return money to the citizens instead of wasting it on repairs:
citizensclimatelobby.org/…/energy-innovation-act/
whogivesashit, Congress will not be doing this, so arguably the most effective method is something that’s actually achievable
Neon_Dystopia, As the situation worsens it’s only a matter of time before rampant eco-terrorism, if we’re not all too busy dying in water wars of course.
Hadriscus, at least we won’t be drowning in them
zepheriths, So your solution to fossil fuels causing pollution. Is to cause an ecological disaster? “Let’s blow up the pipeline full of oil that is bad for everything it touches. Surely the resulting oil spill won’t be bad for everything covered”.
batmangrundies, You can deconstruct a pipeline while keeping environmental contamination to a minimum. There is a fairly well-known book out there that tells you exactly how as well.
You’re also not understanding what is at stake here. You could do better to weigh the scale of what is coming down the pipe at us vs localized oil spills.
It’s a moral obligation to engage in civil disobedience and direct action. Especially if you live in a country like mine where protesting now carries the risk of a $$,$$$ fine.
zepheriths, I understand perfectly what’s at stake. How ever I also understand that the average USA resident is… how do I put this… fucking stupid? Like sure there is a book on how to do it right. But some idiot is just going make a sodium bomb because that’s easy. And that’s the issue I feel like no one else sees. Tha average American is stupid and situationally unaware of anything. It’s a moral obligation IF you can do it without additional harm. To be frank I doubt my fellow Americans to be able to do it properly. Civil disobedience is a great thing but there is a significant gap between Civil disobedience and domestic ecoterrorism
To be completely transparent I am writing this off a bottle of wine. So either this is complete lunacy, or my true thoughts, And I can’t see which.
Awoo, (edited ) How do y’all cope with this
Start small, do sabo stuff like tree spiking first which has this outcome, transition to occupying weapons factories (with an org), gain experience before branching out.
TheRealLinga, Oooo I like this. I want to take action!
Ho_Chi_Chungus, I imagine dying doing some act of eco terrorism and then imagine my soul going to heaven where I meet Vladimir Lenin who calls me a liberal for doing an adventurism and then writes an entire book about how stupid I am
MiraculousMM, I smell a new tagline!
FALGSConaut, There are two wolves inside me
One wants to discuss the moral obligation to commit acts of sabotage against fossil fuels infrastructure that is killing the planet
The other wants to have good opsec and not possibly incriminate myself for future actions I may or may not be involved in by posting
Disclaimer for any feds reading this: I am a clown and everything I do/say/post is hypothetical and/or for comedy only janet-wink
synceDD, This will definitely get me on a watchlist
r/persecutionfetish
Chunk, You don’t think so? I never say crazy things on the Internet even in jest because I think the FBI will put me on a terror watch list. You know there’s 100% got to be a right wing nut job terror watch list so there’s already precedent.
synceDD, u think this post or you fit a right wing nut job description? i dont get it
Agent641, Its less of a ‘list’ and more of a ‘heirachical matrix’ that everyone is on.
pinkdrunkenelephants, Who gives a fuck if you end up on a list? The only list you should be worried about is Santa’s good list and that’s not for another two months
Dave, What happens if I end up on Santa’s good list? He blows up my goods?
pinkdrunkenelephants, He gives you free ammo, I guess. Perhaps mortars for the 4th of July next year
justastranger, Blowing up fossil fuel infrastructure is a moronic idea that’ll create an environmental disaster worse than the infrastructure existing. Instead, sabotage it so that it stops flowing.
Grayox, Right?! All the dumbfucks talking about blowing up pipelines want to trade one environmental disaster for another. Its pathetically misguided.
meathorse, Good point, way less environmental damage to do something about the execs and billionaires in this world
Steeve, Lol wow, this thread is full of internet tough guy syndrome. Hilariously cringy.
BelieveRevolt, If you blew up fossil fuel infrastructure, you’d go to jail. The US blew up Nord Stream, nothing happened. We truly live in a society joker-dancing
BobGnarley, It wasn’t the US, though.
Awoo, It wasn’t the US, though.
Yes it was. archive.ph/jaqOv
vivadanang, This is garbage.
HumanBehaviorByBjork, Honestly reading that I don’t see how you can’t conclude that at the very least it was Ukrainians with CIA backing. It was a very sophisticated attack, and yet somehow they did it “without the knowledge of the leadership in Kyiv.”
TheAnonymouseJoker, Believing in copium does not manifest thoughts into reality. USA blew up Nordstream so that they could make Germany and Europe an oil slave of USA, just like they made Europe militarily enslaved.
BelieveRevolt, A US vassal. Same thing.
very_poggers_gay, In my “First Reformed” era
emmie, No watchlists on lemmy post away ;)
andrewth09, That is a BOLD assumption no three letter agency scrapes data from Lemmy.
pinkdrunkenelephants, You’re already on every watchlist for a fifth of a third of a quarter of the shit you say online. We’re all on watchlists simply for being worried about the climate.
umbrella, part of the reason mass surveillance should not exist
AngryCommieKender, Small companies measure their hard drive capacity in Gigabytes/Terrabytes. Large companies measure their hard drive capacities in Petabytes/Heptabytes. The NSA measures their hard drive capacity in acreage.
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