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neanderthal, in That many people need old Ubuntu installations?

Yes, Ubuntu 20 isn’t EOL yet. A lot of those downloads are probably IT staff or developers that are running Ubuntu servers or developing on those versions.

ETA: We still have some RHEL 7 and clones at my day job

cerement,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

got curious – 20.04 LTS still has more than a year of support left

caseyweederman,

Seven more years of ELTS

ejmin,

Yeah, should’ve remembered that before asking… Makes sense. Thanks

SamsonSeinfelder, in Music Industry sues Internet Archive

Those companies are such a drag for human society because they are afraid of their bottom line. the Music Industry and Amazon also would have burned down the Library of Alexandria if they had deemed it worrisome to their profit.

SinningStromgald,

And theres still no proof that every download truly is a lost sale. It’s all just make believe.

AnonTwo,

I think it'd be completely unrealistic to think that there are no lost sales...whether or not the amount they're losing is actually meaningful would be a better question....

EsotericEmbryo,

I definitely understand this take but there are a lot of things that I would have never watched if I hadn’t torrented it. Many things I do want to see more of I pay for of course but a lot of it I would just never have viewed or listened to in the first place.

AnonTwo,

It's definitely somewhere in the middle. I agree there's definitely a good number of cases where the person downloading also wouldn't have considered it otherwise.

smay, in Music Industry sues Internet Archive

Can mfs stop attacking the internet archive im so tired of this shit

kratoz29,

I’d suppose owners/main team would be annoyed AF as well.

thirdBreakfast, in How to store digital files for posterity? (hundreds of years)

The two extremes:

  1. Keep it alive on ZFS with frequent scrubbing. Review best practice every couple of years in case it’s time to migrate it to holograms or whatever,
  2. Clay tablets.
MystikIncarnate, in That many people need old Ubuntu installations?

20.04 and 22.04 were LTS versions, aka, long term support.

Any application that requires stability should run on LTS versions. Combined with Ubuntu being one of the most popular distros, makes 20.04 and 22.04 the most popular choices for anything in a home lab and many smaller business needs.

Whether you’re building a server for home DNS, or a time server for a small business, then you’re probably using Ubuntu as the base.

I think the next LTS version will be 24.04, so things might shift sometime after that.

pietervdvn,
@pietervdvn@lemmy.ml avatar

Correct. Naming of ubuntu is always . of release. The LTS’es are supported for four years, so when 24.04 is released, the 20.04 will be EOL

Rogue, in That many people need old Ubuntu installations?

People desperately trying to avoid snaps by any means possible?

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I struggled with those for so long. I’m running Pop now with integrated flathub and all of a sudden Linux is fun again!

prayer, in That many people need old Ubuntu installations?

This man really does have GBs of Linux ISOs

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

i tought this post was going to be a “linux ISOs” joje lol

kernelle,

Holy ratio

Anticorp, in Too many users abused unlimited Dropbox plans, so they’re getting limits

Using what you’re offered is considered abuse now? Huh…

HobbitFoot,

Unlimited* plans are always sold on the idea that a sizeable part of the user base aren’t going to use an actual unlimited amount of the resource.

Unless there is a contract regarding a fee over a period of time, there isn’t that much that users can do to compel a service to offer a service they no longer want to offer.

splendoruranium,

Unlimited* plans are always sold on the idea that a sizeable part of the user base aren’t going to use an actual unlimited amount of the resource.

Unless there is a contract regarding a fee over a period of time, there isn’t that much that users can do to compel a service to offer a service they no longer want to offer.

Absolutely! But I don’t think that’s the point of contention here. The problem is the “abuse” rhetoric, since it’s not just incorrect but disingenuous to basically claim that the users did anything wrong here. They’re imposing limits because they miscalculated how many heavy users they could handle.
Again, that’s a completely reasonable move, but framing it as anything but a miscalculation on their part is just a dick move.

UsernameLost,

Oh no, a small number of my users are actually using my service the way I advertised it. Better change it

yote_zip, in Too many users abused unlimited Dropbox plans, so they’re getting limits
@yote_zip@pawb.social avatar

“Unlimited” is always a marketing gimmick, and they’ll always contact you like “hey I noticed you’re actually trying to use the thing you paid for you need to stop or we’ll terminate you”. Along the same lines: “Lifetime license” means 5 years, and “All-You-Can-Eat Pancakes means Four Pancakes.

AuroraBorealis,
@AuroraBorealis@pawb.social avatar

I like what is it, backblaze where it’s unlimited as long as the drive is connected to your computer

Got_Bent,

I tried the all you can eat pasta at Olive garden once.

The first bowl happened.

The second bowl was in like one of those little soup cups.

They refused to come anywhere near our table after that except to slam the check down.

Fuck everything about Olive garden

Jakeroxs,

I used to work at olive garden, it is true that we were told to give less on subsequent bowls (can’t tell you how much was wasted where people ordered a second or third bowl and took like two bites) but not coming back around after… that wasn’t something we were specifically told to do in my experience, probably just had a lazy server.

One thing is the unlimited soup and salad was like $6 and some people would only order water, get like 4-5 refills on soup/salad/water and then tip like a dollar. That is one whole table for an hour+ I could have had sat with someone else who wasn’t being stingy as hell.

On the other hand, tipping culture sucks the company should just pay a living wage instead of the like 2.50 an hour they pay.

Got_Bent,

In retrospect, all you can eat in a table service environment is just a bad idea all around.

This was back around 2000. We were young, poor, and hungry, so of course we were looking for value. It’s not fair to servers to offer that.

CrypticCoffee,

You nailled it in the last paragraph. It is important to not get angry at customers. It isn’t their obligation to pay you a living wage. Secondly, the company chooses how much the meals are and indirectly how much they rent their tables per hour. If it isn’t viable, they should increase prices.

Customers may be struggling. Could be their first meal out in months. The company invited them in with these cheap prices.

Tipping culture is like “hey, come in, eat cheap. Oh, and please pay our staff on the way out.” You are an employer, not a table rental company.

Deebster, in Backblaze increases storage costs to 0.6ct/GB or 6$/TB, but offers free downloads

I was already getting free egress by going via Cloudflare (plus a small amount outside that that stayed within the free tier), so for me this is just a 20% price increase.

kev, in Backblaze increases storage costs to 0.6ct/GB or 6$/TB, but offers free downloads

I think it’s a fair price increase because that $5 price have been there for a while.

JackGreenEarth,

They have to pay the rising electricity and internet bills, after all.

knobbysideup, in Cloud Backup

Local NAS with one share for Borg and proxmox image backups. That is then sync’d to S3 glacier. Borg is used for compressed, deduped archives of all important data. I do 3 daily, 4 weekly, 3 monthly.

Borg to rsync.net works too. Or just use rsync.net directly and they will snapshot for you. Borg accounts are cheaper though.

chiisana, in Not Dead Yet: WD Releases New 6TB 2.5-Inch External Hard Drives - First Upgrade in Seven Years
@chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net avatar

Too bad it sounds like they’re SMR drives. Else it might be fun to shuck them for SFF servers.

brygphilomena,

Seagate had some 5tb smr drives that I started picking up a few years back. Write are slow at sustained 8-12MB/s. But reads are fine. I wouldn’t expect these new ones to be any better.

Still not as good density wise in a 24 sff disk 2u server compared to a 12 disk lff 2u server with 18tb or 22tb disks.

peregus, in Looking for some advice on moving 100TBs of data from the cloud to tape

100TB??? What the heck did you store in there? A lot of “Linux ISOs”, ok, I get it, but how many GB is each? Some may be 10/20GB, but I guess that most of them are about 2/4GB. Some images of old drives, ok (some TB), and then?

ShortN0te,

but I guess that most of them are about 2/4GB.

Do you watch your Linux ISOs on a phone or what? Even Netflix has higher quality in HD

cm0002,

I’ve lost count, but upwards of 10,000 Movies/Shows (and ofc each show could have 10, 20 or even 100+ individual files) that only comes to about 100-120TBs

The remaining 150 or so (My usage is 280TBs, I just locked in a limit of 300) is, well, my entire life that isn’t deemed so important as to go to my actual personal GDrive. It’s not just some images, it has every image of every drive and device I’ve ever owned just prior to it being put out of service.

scrubbles, (edited ) in Looking for some advice on moving 100TBs of data from the cloud to tape
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I’ve done a good chunk, but I haven’t found a good source for tape drives. Mine I bought second hand and it overheats and I found that it actually fails it’s testing, so be extremely weary on buying them. I did LTO-8, but I’ve been waiting for years now for them to drop in price. (I probably did the same comparisons as you, TB/$ pricing).

The biggest thing is to make sure you support LTFS. I’ve tried multiple softwares, even down to tar, but LTFS will make your life simpler. It acts as a simple mount in linux, you just copy and paste.

Tapes themselves are all pretty much the same. I buy them new, never used, just like HDDs, and they’re cheap enough that who cares. Note that the compressed sizing will never be reached. Remember that most ISOs are already compressed, and most of your data is already compressed, you can’t compress compressed data, so it’s pretty much a straight shot.

Tape can be a great option, I keep mine in a safety deposit box, fully encrypted. However getting it all set up is a pain in the ass. If you find a good drive at a good price, let me know.

constantokra,

Do you have any distro or hardware advice? I have an external drive, and I’ve bought several fiber channel cards for it and none of them seem to work either with my motherboard or distribution.

scrubbles, (edited )
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I used an LSI 8i SAS card, with a standard SAS cable to my internal SAS tape drive. Then I just used plain ubuntu to get it up and running. The LSI cards are my go-to for anything SAS, used them for 10 years and never had a single one fail.

Edit @constantokra I remembered I had this saved, this saved me a ton of time setting up my drive last time, everything I needed: linuxquestions.org/…/lto-tape-drive-linux-experie…

constantokra,

I probably should have gotten a sad drive, but I found a good deal on an external fiber channel one and I didn’t realize how difficult fiber channel cards could be.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I’d be interested to hear how it goes, I’m looking at replacing mine. If you get yours to work, please report back. I’m actively looking for a new LTO8 drive

constantokra,

That’s a great resource. Thanks for sharing.

cm0002,

Thanks, yea it looks like this is gonna be a long game to acquire lmao

How repairable are these things?

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

In my experience? Minimal. Although when you buy a single drive for over $1k you’re also not super into cracking it open and repairing things. From what I can tell, it’s like a blu-ray drive, but more complex, and more delicate. Not to mention since it’s tape you technically need a clean room, because dust can fuck up the heads.

If I could source decent drives for less than 10 grand I’d be a huge supporter of it, but us pro-sumers are pretty much left with ebay.

itsnotits,

actually fails its* testing

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