baronofclubs,

Actually, the reply is from a woke person who is trying to start shit by saying woke people are false-flagging wokeness free games, so that you’ll accidentally play and get indoctrinated by a woke game.

AtomicPurple,
AtomicPurple avatar

It might be because I'm high right now, but I hurt my brain trying to follow that.

baronofclubs,

It hurt my brain trying to write it, and I haven’t smoked weed in 15 years.

NotAGuyInAHat,

Right? There’s a gay bear mage! That’s as “woke” as it can get judging by whatever they define “woke” as today

AgentOrangesicle,
@AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world avatar

Gale or Wyll? I guess I wouldn’t describe either of them as a bear.

Or maybe you made your own gay bear mage. Or maybe you’re rolling a druid and literally making a gay bear.

Sounds pretty woke to me.

STUPIDVIPGUY,

woke doesn’t even mean anything anymore

who8mydamnoreos,

Just a modern dog whistle, used by the worst among us.

thesprongler,

Wait, amongus is woke now??

JackbyDev,

Yes, they refused to violate the Geneva Convention, just more woke big government trying to wokify gamr

keenkoon,

for gamers, woke = minority.

There’s a gay person in my game? Woke

A black man or woman is the protagonist? Woke

Tigbitties,
Tigbitties avatar

It must be hard for them to live in the real world.

BradleyUffner,

It must be hard for them to live in the real world.

They don’t live in the real world. They live in some conservative fantasy land manifested through sheer force of hatred and bigotry.

keenkoon,

“I can’t believe they made real life political!”

NounsAndWords,

It actually means a lot of things. Because it’s a dogwhistle.

Neato,
Neato avatar

At this point it's a train whistle but the bigots have been hearing it so long they're deaf.

CynAq,
CynAq avatar

True. Might as well be a foghorn.

yata,

It never meant anything. It is just a slur word invented by right wingers for when they face repercussions for their bigotry. They regularly switch out the word when they think it has outlived its usefulness. Older terms were PC and SJW. None of them meant anything.

PunnyName, (edited )

Used to be it meant “not asleep”, in that you were aware of social injustices: a la “wake up sheeple!”

But it was co-opted by right-wingers as a catch-all term like “political correctness”, and has since lost the original meaning.

JackbyDev,

It was around the 2016 US presidential campaign when the shift happened.

Darkard,

When someone says “woke” I immediately assume that they have an opinion of the thing in question that they know will be seen as sexist, racist or -phobic in some way that if they said directly would get them called out on.

It’s just another cowards way of saying “I’m not racist but…”

Extraltodeus,

Or some people don’t appreciate the bullshit constantly pushed?

Alterforlett,

The bullshit wouldn’t be pushed if marginalized people in our society would be treated the same as everyone else and you know it. Grow up and stop being annoyed with black mermaids ffs

STUPIDVIPGUY,

Depends on what you consider bullshit. And if you complain about woke you probably have stupid opinions.

True that some ‘woke’ game suck, like that most recent saint’s row. But that’s because the writing is terrible, not because it includes minorities. Just an example

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

Like what? what don't you appreciate? What exactly and specifically about it is bullshit? Are we too afraid to say what we actually hate about the content being presented?

TheKarion,

Woke means sexist against men, racist against Caucasians and cis-phobic

MajorHavoc,

Narrator: It does not.

ultrasquid,
ultrasquid avatar

Platforms should start considering "woke" a slur, cause that's pretty much how it's used.

surewhynotlem,

Can something be a slur if no one is offended by it?

Garzak,

« Sorry for arriving just now guys, I **** up late. »

MxM111,
MxM111 avatar

“I fuck up late”?

JJROKCZ,

He’s saying if some is considered a slur, then it will be censored, if it’s censored then you get odd looking and confusing sentences like that

absentthereaper,
@absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Think they call that the “Scunthorpe Dilemma”.

4am,
@4am@lemmy.world avatar

Thus successfully agitating liberals into censoring a word that originally was created by the black community to highlight the calling out of systemic racism and it’s lasting effects on society.

Which means the assholes win.

Zeroxxx,

Not woke does not mean racist.

blackbelt352,

People who base their identities about calling things woke or not woke are in fact very likely to be racist, or sexist, or homophobic, or transphobic.

Zeroxxx,

100% true nonsense.

absentthereaper,
@absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml avatar

“But you’re just gonna power right on through it, aren’t you?” – Lana Kane

AshLassay, (edited )

Ten years ago it was called “politics”.

Keep women and non-Anglo Saxon people politics out of my war games based on real world conflicts - Gamer™

PunnyName,

“Political”

White and political.
Male and political.
Straight and political.
Christian and political.

Rom,

Ten years before that it was “political correctness” when gamers weren’t allowed to use the n-word.

Pokethat,

I don’t use it because it’s social suicide, but I think either everyone should be allowed to use it or no one should. But that’s like an opinion on USA tipping culture. You can have your opinions, just don’t exercise them unless you’re ready for trouble

vzq,

That’s the beauty of freedom. You are free to use it. Other people are free to shun you for being a fucking racist bigot.

Freedom is grand.

norapink,
norapink avatar

I don't use it because I'm not black so it would be racist for me to... But you do you.

Also I just don't have the desire to use it.

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

I remember when being called woke was a compliment. I miss those days :(

BradleyUffner,

“Woke” apparently means being aware of systemic societal issues, and wanting to fix them. I’ll gladly wear that “insult”.

Alterforlett,

Still is. If someone who doesn’t think anyone else but white, straight people are allowed representation in our diverse world calls you woke as a slur, you wear that as a badge of honor

chicken,

That’s probably a fair assumption at this point, but I wish there was a word for egregiously obnoxious shoehorning of culture war stuff that wouldn’t get immediately diluted into a generic partisan shibboleth. For instance when they were doing the Enhanced Edition of the first games, and using the characters as mouthpieces to break the fourth wall to whine about gamergate, I don’t think you really have to be a bigot to be annoyed by it or want to put a label on that sort of thing.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s gotten to the point that anyone who actually uses “woke” as an insult just looks completely ridiculous now.

JackbyDev,

Is this game wok?

I love char grilled food and spent a lot of time with it.

JJROKCZ,

It contains women and POC not being completely subservient to the nearest white man at all times and so they consider it “woke”

MxM111,
MxM111 avatar

There is bear sex in it. Must be woke.

VivaceMoss,

“The future liberals want”

PunnyName,

Freedom of choice that literally affects no one?

Sign me up!

VivaceMoss,

What if my religion says you shouldn’t go around fuckin’ bears tho?

Then would you give up your bear-fuckin’?

Buddahriffic,

MY religion says I must support bear fuckers at all costs. So I guess it’s a religious war.

I don’t have time for something like that though. If I send you an Amazon gift of several bags of salt, could you kindly spread that over your fields for me? And then send a reaction video, maybe gift me some candles for my curtains and I’ll do the same.

JackbyDev,

My religion says “if he’s a bear, it’s gay, unless he’s a literal bear” but wildshaping was not known to the sages so we must mediate on this.

4am,
@4am@lemmy.world avatar

So that’s what the classroom litter boxes were for; the bears. I KNEW it! /s

GeneralEmergency,

What having zero personality does to a motherfucker

MxM111,
MxM111 avatar

What?

PunnyName, (edited )

Bitching about everyone being “woke” = having no personality.

Because they’re just a parrot, with less charisma or intellect than an actual parrot.

JackbyDev,

🦜 RAAAAHHH Go woke go broke go woke go broke

cmbabul,

Also constantly being bombarded with propaganda from the day we’re born. Some folks figure it out, others fall in line with it

PostingInPublic,

“I’m deathly afraid of the gay, is there any gay in the game? Because I don’t know what will happen if I’m confronted with the gay!!!”

“Calm down, nothing in there is going to remind you of these urges of yours, play away.”

My translation.

Here_in_Malaysia, (edited )

So the guy in the pic is just a homophobic bigot? Or homophobic but also sexist, on account of the female characters looking as worn as the male characters? I’m too old to understand what woke means, but the guy’s post is also confusing to read.

MaximumOverflow,

Nobody knows what woke actually means in cases like these because it basically signifies “anything I don’t like or agree with”.

It usually means you aren’t racist, you don’t hate gay people or any other member of the lgbt community, and treat women fairly. So like… a decent human being.

crypticthree,
UnaSolaEstrellaLibre,

Must be mentally tiring to be a right winger. Especially a gamer ™ one.

LeafOnTheWind,

Especially a gaymer one

PunnyName,

As someone who used to have a lot of similar opinions, it really isn’t. If anything, it was energizing to make people squirm and try to prove you wrong, only to have another issue chambered and ready to go.

They thrive on this shit. And after moving left, I’m fucking exhausted.

thesprongler,

When your entire ideology is contrarian.

Minusfourty,

It is.

Tigbitties,
Tigbitties avatar

There are other choices.

Minusfourty,

Thanks, but I don’t want to be wrong.

Leshoyadut,
Leshoyadut avatar

And that’s exactly the point, too. Keep you mentally tired and angry so you don’t have the energy to question why too deeply.

Minusfourty,

You ever looked at Twitter, or Lemmy for that matter? The left is every bit as bitter and angry if not more so. Currently both sides (or at least significant portions of them) think the other is in power and responsible for all their problems, and it’s the media’s job to keep us thinking that way.

kerneltux,

…all the while, reasonable people in the middle are just tired of getting bludgeoned by both sides’ messaging & want to get on with their lives.

Minusfourty,

I miss the days before identity politics when it was still possible to keep political pandering and normal life stuff separate, and just enjoy my grill. But now if you use meat on the grill, you’re pandering to the right. If you use soy or lab grown vegan meat substitutes you’re pandering to the left. And thanks to the inflation both cost too much.

Katana314,

Ah, yes. Both sides. Both sides hate net neutrality. Both sides clamouring to make healthcare worse. Both sides fighting against the right for women to control their own bodies. Both sides hinting that their supporters violently attack the opposition at rallies.

Except maybe not quite so much sometimes.

Minusfourty,

I’m with you on net neutrality. I have no problem with women doing what they want with their own bodies, it’s the child’s body I’m worried about. I’m not a huge fan of the healthcare system either, I just think giving “free” healthcare to illegal aliens and putting the government in charge of it will make things worse and not better. Honestly not sure what you’re on about with the violent attacks thing, but I’ve seen plenty of calls for violence from prominent leftists, and the “summer of love” 3 years ago destroyed quite a bit.

But either way, I’m not a “muh both sides” centrist. To the contrary, I think the media is trying to distract both of us sides from the real enemy: moderates.

Aesthesiaphilia,

There's a smaller number of rage-filled dumbasses on the left than on the right.

And the rage-filled dumbasses on the left tend to be teenagers who will grow out of it. On the right it's middle-aged people with brain rot from too much Fox News.

DrPop,

Isn’t fantasy regularly used to parallel real world issues. Elves are constantly treated as a minority group for instance.

Tigbitties,
Tigbitties avatar

Fantasy and sci-fi both. There are exceptions. Starship Troopers (the novel) is very right wing and Narnia is christian-y, for example.

Buddahriffic,

Oh is the novel not satire like the movie is?

Jmdatcs,

The novel is more satirical. Over the years I’ve heard complaints that the people who made the movie, either intentionally or unintentionally, toned down the satirical aspect of the humor too much and dummies might consider it an endorsement of that kind of society.

Edit: after taking another look at his comment I think tigbitties is just saying the world of Starship Troopers is right-wing, not the message.

Buddahriffic,

Yeah, satire can be difficult to calibrate. The difference between fanatical and satirical support can be hard to spot. Or just over the top characters for the sake of entertainment without any intended message. And you might be right that it was about the world rather than the intent.

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Well it’s usually high elves that are the rich elite, while wood elves and basically everything other than humans are the minorities, and humans are the “middle class”.

PeterPoopshit,

Remember it’s “go woke or go broke but if you go woke you go broke anyway because society”

Zeroxxx,

So Baldur 3 woke or not? Genuine question.

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

I may have seen a woman in it.

Introversion,

And lived to tell of it!? gasp! /s

JohnEdwa,
JohnEdwa avatar

I can confirm that the romances aren't gender locked.

Neato,
Neato avatar

You can romance same-sex NPCs so I'd bet the right-wing would call it woke.

Zeroxxx,

Confirmed woke then. Not hard to answer the original pic.

Aiastarei,

Beyond comedy lmao

Zeroxxx,

Yep, says woke people.

lingh0e,

Define “woke” and explain why you are using it as a derogatory.

STUPIDVIPGUY,

yeah thats gotta be a KenM style satire, too stupid to

Aceticon,

Shit man, that means even the original WoW was pretty woke with all the same sex avatar simulating rubbing on Ironforge.

Given all the cross-species simulated sex going on (like dwarfs doing it with elves), same sex, different sexes, thresomes and more-somes it was hugelly woke even by today’s “standards”.

Neato,
Neato avatar

Most things are "woke" by modern bigots. That's OK. We should always points out to conservatives that most things are woke so they GTFO and leave us alone.

Aceticon,

Oh, man, you misread me like crazy.

There are a lot more than only 2 viewpoints on anything of any complexity, such as social issues.

pastcoma,

I can confirm that there are fairies in the game.

Dewded,

You can use the character customization to make a black man. Woke.

Zeroxxx,

Unless there is asian option…

JasSmith,

Depends on your definition, but doesn't appear to be. The developers haven't gone out of their way to ham-fist any ideological messaging into the game, while allowing people to craft whatever character and story they like. Still, few people have actually played the game, so we won't know until it drops.

yata,

For right wingers like you minorities existing equals “ham-fisting ideological messaging into the game”.

JasSmith,

Whatever you say bro!

0U714W,

The only people concerned about wokeness are the same exact people who perpetuate the same old White Fright/Satanic Panic insane conservative bigotry. If you have to ask, yes, Baldur’s Gate is woke. That game is SO woke it will actually FORCE your children to turn into gay black trans ANTIFA supersoldiers hellbent on eradicating America. If you don’t want to play a woke game, do not play Baldur’s Gate 3. Don’t play the first two either - I did as a child, and now I make sarcastic posts trying to piss off humanity’s worst. BG has always been a video game series intent on pushing the librulgenda.

Kovu,
@Kovu@lemmy.world avatar

appreciate you posting this because it brings out all the g*mers and makes it easy for me to snipe them 🙏

UntouchedWagons,
@UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca avatar

Based mod.

ThrowawayPermanente,

Anybody who gets sniped in the comment section is a noob who needs to get good and stop being such a little bitch

baronofclubs,

Skill issue

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

There should be a firefox extension that replaces the word "woke" with something crazy like "alien" or nonsensical like "gluten free"

Since the term means anything you want it to, might as well replace the word itself to anything you want. It's kind like the extension that replaces the word "millennials" with "snake people."

SadSadSatellite,

I feel like it would confuse me on occasion, but I love the idea of replacing it with gluten free

Kichae,

Since the term means anything you want it to

I mean, I think it's been fairly consistently used to mean "breaks my patriarchal white supremacy fantasy".

Aceticon,

The entire side-taking on this shit is one giant circle jerk (and not even in a good way) and distraction from the increasing and very much equal-opportunity fucking (again, not even in a good way) of everybody who didn’t pop-out of the vagina of somebody who is rich.

What exactly is the problem with making and enjoying games without trying to reduce all its dimensions to a single-dimensional Identitarian Politics interpretation?

I feel like somebody on the sidelines watching two groups of fans of two different soccer teams beating each other senseless because they disagree on a decision by the referee, all sense of proportion or the true importance of, well, everything else, lost.

Duke_Nukem_1990,

Ah the privilege of not taking a side.

Aceticon,

The entirety of human experience and human condition does not fit into 2 “sides”, not even close, so it’s quite the acephalic approach to look at everything through the prism of a very specific one-dimensional line with only 2 sides.

Absolutelly, have Principles, follow those Principles and then judge things according to those Principles when they do apply.

Reducing everything of importance to “sides”, on the other hand, is not being principled, it’s being mindlessly tribalist.

yata,

It is funny that you assume you are the only one with “Principles”, and then strawmanning the shit out of the opinions of everyone else.

Aceticon,

You just stated something about what’s going on in my mind, which I did not state (i.e. I did not state that “I’m the only one with principles”, not even close, and actually implied they do but go for tribalistic side-taking instead), and then you argued against that very own imaginary position you claimed I had, using an “argument” involving strawmen.

I hope you can spot the irony if you think about it enough.

Rom,

Why can’t games just have no politics in them, like my favorite apolitical bideo game franchise Fallout?

yata,

There’s no “both sides” about this. The entire woke bs is a fabrication of right wingers.

Aceticon,

True.

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