i don’t know for britain but in france you can’t “de-arrest” someone legally, only the prosecutor can, so he doesn’t even know what his own bullshit mean
I’m trying to figure out their logic, they identify as a non-U.S. citizen, but believe they have jurisdiction to make arrests in another country? What is the plan? To detain or abduct members of a foreign country? I’m fairly certain that would be considered an act of war. Better make sure he isn’t armed or he’ll trigger article 5 of NATO and he’ll be at war with several countries.
There was a new version last fall and it is still being administered. It’s no longer free (though insurance is supposed to pay), so few have gotten it.
You have to either watch them and think critically about the content or be “in the know” through our various lefty podcasters and what not though. Prager U does a decent job of hiding that it is propaganda imo. Though I don’t know that I have ever watch a full video myself.
Years ago, I would keep YouTube playing constantly while I was at work and caught a handful of Prager u videos randomly, and this was well before I was the radical leftist I am now, they still rubbed me the wrong way. They did a great job making an argument that was fundamentally wrong but they’d always fail to explain an important mechanism for something critical. I can’t think of any specific examples, I haven’t actually watched one of their videos since I left that job. But it was always a huge leap that they disguised as a given fact. They’re also just straight up lie about historical facts.
The best propaganda is simply the slice of truth you choose to show that supports your original claims.
It is trivially easy to dig up instances of this or that medication having complications or side-effects. And I’ll openly admit that COVID boosters still leave me feeling like shit for a day afterwards. So folks at Praeger can pull together an assortment of anecdotes and testimonials to build an anti-vax case that is entirely “true” while still being complete bullshit by way of omission.
That’s where the whole “getting educated” stuff is a double-edged sword. You can very easily feel well-informed based on the volume of information - true, legitimate, seriously sourced information, confirmable facts - you’ve ingested, and still be lead to some utterly false conclusions.
You can play this game with Tylenol or Chemotherapy or Dialysis as easily as any vaccine. And I do get the sense that, as the UK moves towards divesting itself of a health care infrastructure because shit costs money, we’re going to get more and more of this kind of “Don’t even bother going to a doctor, they’ll kill you!” medical denialism as a kind-of coping mechanism for a health care system that’s been defunded to the point of uselessness.
26.7 out of 100,000 cases after the second vaccine dose
Like, on the one end, this is exactly the kind of shit that gets hyper-inflated. The mortality rate of COVID is closer to 2000 cases in 100k than 26.7. And contraction of COVID raises long term risk of heart issues as a consequence. The herd immunity to grants means that, if you can successfully identify high risk individuals, they’re insulated from transmission by the bulk of the population getting vaccinated. So the fear of heart issues is mitigated only when everyone else gets the jab.
On the other, I think there’s a criticism that we haven’t continued to invest in improvements to the mRNA treatment now that we have a simple panacea. And this doesn’t become criticism of vaccination. It becomes a criticism of vaccine skepticism undermining funding of new iterations of the treatment.
it is denied rather than debated
At some point, you can’t keep coming back to the debate table in the middle of a pandemic. You need to move quickly and confidently, rather than re-litigating age old talking points if you want to minimize total public harm.
That might mean ramping up vaccine distribution. It might mean ramping up quarantine measures. It might mean dramatically expanding the availability of testing and contact tracing and improving access to public health care.
But when we’ve embraced a “cheapest, least economically invasive solution” policy method, that means we’re fully on board with the vaccine whether its entirely safe or not. Because what we really care for, in the US, is economic growth. And a jab from even a mediocre vaccine solution is going to be vastly more friendly to the economy than doing nothing or doing a more traditional quarantine approach.
The mortality rate of COVID is closer to 2000 cases in 100k than 26.7.
Ok. So my post was bait. I specifically chose a statistic of young males and myocarditis.
As expected you misread and responded quoting all age mortality.
This was the point I was trying to make. Honest discussions are impossible.
contraction of COVID raises long term risk of heart issues
Above a certain age, yes.
Your link is not focused on young males.
In the specific case of myocarditis in young males, the Pfizer vaccine is higher risk.
The herd immunity to grants means that, if you can successfully identify high risk individuals, they’re insulated from transmission by the bulk of the population getting vaccinated.
True for vaccines in general, but for omicron (the dominant strain when most vaccines were given) transmission rates immediately after infection were the same, whether vaccinated or not.
So the fear of heart issues is mitigated only when everyone else gets the jab.
Not empirically true for covid vaccines
On the other, I think there’s a criticism that we haven’t continued to invest in improvements to the mRNA treatment now that we have a simple panacea.
Disagree. mRNA is now an accepted tool and is being explored for a huge number of medical applications.
you can’t keep coming back to the debate table in the middle of a pandemic.
There was no debate during the pandemic. Any criticism was silenced as being anti vaccine.
You need to move quickly and confidently,
In public. But this shouldn’t apply to doctors, scientists and other experts.
But when we’ve embraced a “cheapest, least economically invasive solution” policy method,
I mean the methods to immunize someone was very crude and the entire concept so new that I really don’t think you can compare that to anti-vaxxers nowadays. We’ve got much bigger idiots now.
Nah, my phone raging is reserved for one very special group of worthless, miserable wastes of existences whom I would love to do actual, physical violence too.
American here, how do you de - arrest someone? Over here once you’re arrested only a judge // jury can say you’re not guilty, the person that made the arrest, or the police don’t have any say in that part of the criminal justice system.
That can and does happen, but it’s still a process that takes months at minimum. Months that your either sitting in jail, or if you’re one of the privileged, you’d be sitting out on bail, possibly on house arrest depending on if the judge set any conditions to your release upon bail.
That’s different than being arrested. Police can hold you for like 24 hours without charging you with anything. Once your officially charged and arrested it’s in the system and goes at the speed of the system.
If you’re de-arrested you’re not locked in a cell (custody). If you’re released after questioning it’s being de-arrested. If you’re held in a cell during any of it you can’t be de-arrested, you have to be “released without charge”.
“de-arrested” is not technically the same as “released without charge”. The key difference in terminology is whether the person is taken into custody and processed, says a spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo).
It happens all the time. Officer makes the decision to arrest, puts the person in handcuffs and the car. A supervisor shows up, a story gets changed, or an officer finds out that something proves someone is lying, and the person is released. I’ve seen it happen when a non-violent offender had warrants, but it turned out they were having a kid’s birthday party (discovered when the dad came out to check on the mom because she’d been outside ‘smoking’ for longer than usual).
Arrested is a step up from detention. Detention = you’re not free to leave. Arrested = you are not free to go, you’re coming with the officer to jail, and they have belief you committed a crime that you will be charged with (or have a warrant, thus already charged). There is nothing that says once arrested an officer can’t take off handcuffs and let you go. There really isn’t that much distinguishing the two in the law, except for statutes about identifying yourself (where I live, anyway). My laws use the word custody in far greater amounts than arrest.
You can inform a police officer that he or she is under citizen arrest. You can call the police and have an officer come out with the paperwork, which YOU have to sign. If the arrest is false, YOU are liable both criminally and civilly.
Well if they didn’t have fucking SPACE LASERS pointed at my favorite PIZZA PLACE.
Let’s do the math here people. P. I. Z. Z. A. What ELSE has 2 Z’s??? That’s right. Nazzis. They’re extra Nazi. And the only way to fight nazzis is with Nazïsm. We need all the Nazis we can get to fight the Jewish space cosmonauts, who will break open the fermament and send us all careening in to the great blue void.
That’s exactly what he did. He just kept asking one officer to arrest the other officer and they all refused and just stared at him like he was a nutjob.
During COVID, a large number of community centres, and other available buildings were turned into temporary vaccination centres, to distribute the COVID vaccine.
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