exohuman,
exohuman avatar

I have 0 reputation points. I don’t know what causes you to gain or lose reputation. Maybe it’s time based? I don’t know.

iNeedScissors67,
iNeedScissors67 avatar

I have -2 even though I have plenty of upvotes. I am aware now that downvotes give you negative rep but upvotes don't give you positive. I have no idea if that's being worked on or not but the system is definitely a little confusing, especially for those of us who came from Reddit.

EnglishMobster,
EnglishMobster avatar

So until... Friday, I think? Thursday? There was a difference between Kbin and Lemmy. Kbin used "boosts" for upvotes and "reduces" for downvotes, but Lemmy used "Favorites" for upvotes instead.

Kbin literally flipped the switch right before Reddit started coming over here en masse to follow Lemmy's lead and have it be favorites/reduces instead.

The issue is that the reputation code doesn't seem to have been updated (probably because... y'know, the website exploded). So the reputation displayed on your profile counts "boosts" as upvotes still. IIRC sorting algorithms like "Hot" still use boosts instead of favorites too.

So I'm giving you a boost right now - which should give a +1 to your reputation.

This is just a visual bug for now, though, so it'll probably be fixed when things die down. This site has only been live for a month or so, so there's still bugs here and there.

exohuman,
exohuman avatar

Thank you! That makes sense and I now have 1 reputation point, so that worked!

nevernevermore,
nevernevermore avatar

Here, have another!

auhu,
auhu avatar

upboosts for everyone!

cowvin,

What's the intended functional difference between a favorite and a boost?

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

Coming from Mastodon - a boost is important- it basically retweets the content to all your followers. A favourite is just a message to the poster that you think their content is cool - they get a notification you favourited it - but that’s alll.

In kbin where people tend to follow topics more than people, I’m not entirely sure what the full ramification of a boost are outside of telling your followers.

ripcord,
ripcord avatar

On that last part - I believe an intent for kbin is to be a bridge to the fediverse in general, including Mastodon. So both topics AND people would potentially be followed, and used for that reason.

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

Understood. Thanks

CynAq,
CynAq avatar

A boost also pushes things up in the chain, so if you think something is a must see or must read, boost it, even if you don't have followers.

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

Interesting - could you unpack what you mean by "the chain" in this context?

CynAq,
CynAq avatar

I used chain because for comments, it means up the thread, and for magazines, it's the list of threads.

So if you boost a whole thread in a magazine, or if you boost a comment in a thread, they get pushed up in their respective "chains".

For comments, it obviously follows the parent-child hierarchy so it will be pushed only to the top of its level.

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

OK, so similar to an upvote in Reddit?

ripcord,
ripcord avatar

Yes, although I'm guessing upvotes here (or "favourites" at the moment) will do the same eventually. They're brand new and don't seem 100% implemented yet.

livus,
livus avatar

Thanks for the explanation, I was dismayed to see I have a negative reputation. So it's a relief to know I haven't done something wrong!

duringoverflow,

ah thanks
now makes sense. I was also wondering why it has counted only the downvotes of one specific comment to just make a negative total

HandsHurtLoL,

Take a moment to really drink in that last sentence.

Some dude named Ernest is just tooling around with a social media platform, trying things out, getting the hang of things, just posting into the nothingness for less than a month to test code. Meanwhile, the CEO of a social media conglomerate who doesn't even know who you are opens the lid on Schrodinger's "ideas box" (don't know if it's a good idea or bad idea until you look inside!) and out of nowhere, your little tiny corner of the internet goes from having like 50 people to 250k in a week.

This is like the plot of Fifth Element kind of.

sab, (edited )
sab avatar

If I'm not mistaken the polish language instances have been up and running longer, kbin.social is just the first internationally oriented one. But still, it's early development, and it's crazy that the only real problem seems to have been server capacity. Hats off.

cloaker,

Thanks Ernest, keep it up, great work.

eatmoregreenfood,
eatmoregreenfood avatar

All hail Ernest! He's probably scared stupid right now (I'm so sorry Ernest. I have a name irl that gets made fun of also). But yeah jokes aside buy that man a coffee, donate, help him out. He's living in the game changer world right now

ripcord,
ripcord avatar

For anyone that needs it, and because I didn't see it linked elsewhere here, here's the kbin buy a coffee link:

link

vaguerant,
vaguerant avatar

For the benefit of anybody who doesn't get this reference, Ernest is the name of a character from a series of American commercials, a children's TV show and then a number of films. One of those films is called Ernest Scared Stupid, which is the joke here.

The entire Ernest franchise is kind of a uniquely American phenomenon; they're not particularly well-known outside of North America. I doubt kbin's Ernest is compared or contrasted with TV's Ernest often at all in Poland.

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  • pinkfloyd,

    I already did that amount and will probably continue just to help out here.

    ripcord, (edited )
    ripcord avatar

    Does kbin really have 250k users? Do you have a source? I'm curious, but that'd be great if true.

    I'm guessing this is more like 250k unique IPs over a day that viewed, and not 250k registered users which I'm guessing is more like 15k or something. Either way, that'd be more than I expected which is good.

    Edit: I guess from this other thread it sounds like:

    kbin had about 165k "visits" yesterday. From here. I'm not quite clear what that means but I'm guessing it's either a site load, or some group of accesses from the same IP (i.e. if someone accessed the site for a few minutes, then went quite for an hour, then accessed again, that's a couple "visits"). But I'm 100% guessing.

    kbin has about 25k users of its own at the moment. From here

    The fediverse has about 130k users total. I'm not sure if that includes Mastodon, but I think it might.

    Edit2: Oh my am I wrong about Mastodon being included. They've added more than 130k users just in the last WEEK. There's over 12m accounts at the moment (according to this) which is fantastic.

    HandsHurtLoL,

    @ripcord My 250k number was a reference to this graph I saw yesterday.

    ripcord,
    ripcord avatar

    Ah ok, thanks. I added a couple of things in an edit I made in my reply before I saw this.

    Vlyn,
    Vlyn avatar

    I still couldn't find a good explanation what a boost is vs an upvote.

    Someone mentioned boost is like a crosspost on Reddit, but that simply doesn't sound right.

    Is it more like a super upvote?

    atypicaloddity,

    A boost is like a retweet. People who are subscribed to you will see it. It's kinda like crossposting to your profile on Reddit?

    pinkfloyd,

    I'm not sure I particularly like that but I guess that's how it functions so far. Strangely, I still have my reddit account and checking it; I had new "followers" which I never got before. I'm certain they are bots trying to prop it up during this time. It's all very weird.

    ReCursing,
    ReCursing avatar

    I have had dozens of new followers on reddit in the last few days, all of them bots hawking porn

    Eggyhead,
    Eggyhead avatar

    This is a helpful explanation. Thank you!
    I remember you could follow users on Reddit as well, but I never really knew of any reason to do it. It seems like "boosting" might actually give some agency to that, and maybe I should just start boosting stuff I find particularly interesting.

    re,
    re avatar

    It's mainly a feature of other ActivityPub platforms (it's the equivalent of a retweet on mastodon) so I'm sure it's partially there for cross-compatability between them.

    onceuponaban,
    onceuponaban avatar

    Of note is that kbin is also connected to the microblogging (think Twitter, Tumblr) side of the fediverse where the "repost content you like to your page" paradigm is more intuitive.

    klin,
    klin avatar

    i've been wondering why "hot" sorting looked so weird, this makes sense!

    Aelar64,
    Aelar64 avatar

    Reputation is calculated with boosts and not upvotes - likely a holdover from when upvotes were boosts. See #80 on the repo

    aroom,
    aroom avatar

    this seems to be the consensus.

    the question of reputation points have been ask a dozen a time this last days and It seems that it's just a code issue.

    dball37,

    I don't think it makes sense that the down arrow counts towards negative reputation but the up arrow does not count towards positive reputation. Either only have positive reputation linked to boosts or have negative and positive linked to the arrows on comments and threads.

    cyberfae,

    It's not intended behavior, it just isn't getting fixed yet because ernest is still trying to fix the stability issues, which is a much higher priority. In the meantime, consider buying ernest a coffee, he could really use it. The link for that is here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kbin

    ANuStart,

    Was about to ask the same thing. I have a -23 reputation and can't figure out why. Maybe I just suck, but I like to think I don't!

    DarkThoughts,

    With the 88 you probably have to expect more of them though.

    omnislayer88,

    What do you mean by "the 88"?

    i_need_a_vacation,
    i_need_a_vacation avatar

    It's a number commonly associated to nazis, sucks if it's just your year of birth though

    iNeedScissors67,
    iNeedScissors67 avatar

    I didn't learn that until a few years ago, and so many of my usernames had 88 in them because I was born in 1988.

    omnislayer88,

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  • CynAq,
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    Most people won't even notice I think. Until that user pointed it out I didn't, and I know about the symbolism too.

    I would wait for a while for things to settle down here and then ask ernest if it is possible to change usernames. The progress report he posted today says account deletions are stuck right now and needs manual attention, so I wouldn't delete my account just now, to save the guy some work.

    Xeelee,
    Xeelee avatar

    It's pretty much common knowledge these days. If you have 88 in your username, people will assume you're a nazi.

    ripcord,
    ripcord avatar

    Some people will. I assumed they were born in '88. Was wrong on that too.

    CynAq,
    CynAq avatar

    Yes, I'm aware.

    I said I haven't noticed even though I know what 88 means.

    I'm just trying to give the user some peace of mind until the issue can be resolved.

    DonaldTrump,
    DonaldTrump avatar

    I have the best reputation, believe me, and everybody loves me. It will be tremendous, I tell you, absolutely tremendous, forever.

    modi,
    modi avatar

    I invented reputation.

    omnislayer88,

    -304 is definitely a good reputation /s

    shadowmushroom1,

    i think kbin is discriminating against you. kibin does not want people to trust you/s

    missingno,
    missingno avatar

    Reputation is supposed to be upvotes - downvotes, but instead it counts boosts - downvotes.

    bou,
    bou avatar

    @missingno is that intended?

    re,
    re avatar

    No, upvotes used to be boosts but they switched them recently and haven't updated the reputation to reflect that (probably because the servers were on fire)

    bou,
    bou avatar

    Oh, good. Thanks for letting me know!

    Carlspanks,

    Idk but that fucking sucks

    Carlspanks,

    Idk but that fucking sucks

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