Why do we still live in a world where I can't independently configure my laptop display and external monitor's scaling (100% and 150% respectively) in #Linux? Or is this just an Ubuntu/Kubuntu problem?
Under X11 both displays sync their scaling settings (awful experience when you have a 4K panel). And with Wayland both displays end up blurry, even after a reboot.
I'm using the HP Dev One.
Are there easy workarounds or should I finally make the permanent switch to #fedora?
@eliasp Indeed it does! Unfortunately it's not saving that configuration between reboots. I don't know why, but I think I've lost the will to constantly troubleshoot problems on Ubuntu.
@killyourfm I have a 4K monitor and two 1080p ones, I know the struggle lol
Although my opinion doesn't count, I'm one of those crazy people who like 100% scaling at 4K
@killyourfm I think it really depends on the workflow, a good hack for me on GNOME has always been enabling "large text" in the accessibility menu, for whatever reason it works perfectly and I can deal with 100% scaling. Worth taking into account that most of the stuff I use (terminals, web browsers, blender, Vscode, etc) can scale independently, plus I really don't interact with my DE a lot
@ainmosni@killyourfm it's most likely this. Fedora was first to switch GNOME to Wayland by default and it was first to switch KDE Plasma to Wayland by default, too. When something is your default experience you care about it much more. I think Fedora is still benefiting from it.
I remember when people complained about issues with Wayland in Debian or Ubuntu I was simply not experiencing in Fedora. Back then it was putting Wayland in bad light while it was not really its fault.
@killyourfm good stuff! The latest releases for both distros have the same kernel version (6.2), so it sounds like they have made some distro-specific choices that affect compatibility.
@killyourfm@TrechNex Fedora is quite progressive compared to other non-rolling distros. They were the first mainstream distro on wayland, systemd, pipewire, and more. It's why I quite enjoy the distro, as it does seem to lead where desktop linux goes.
@ainmosni@killyourfm@TrechNex Absolutely. On the other hand LLVM 16 is causing some errors for me. I understand it's due to Valves method of distribution and packaging - but still.
@liamdv4 Pretty effortless, Liam! I just needed to enable some additional repos for stuff like Steam. But it feels comfortable, and I'm finding the dual monitor support much better.
@killyourfm .. I believe this is Wayland only, which still has issues including the biggest for me are that all flatpak’s being blurry and Barrier KVM not working. I keep trying every release, but end up going back to Xorg. (If I remember a few years ago I had no issues on PopOS xorg, but now I’m on fedora.)
@killyourfm Do you have experimental scale-monitor-framebuffer turned on? Having this on made heterogenous scaling with Wayland on Ubuntu and Fedora just work for me
@killyourfm You're right about the blurry though... PopOS handles heterogeneous scaling excellently (on X11) without blur, I want whatever they've got (excited for new Wayland Cosmic desktop though)
@killyourfm
So, x11 has only one screen, and fakes multiple screens making a big one. So it only allows for one type of scaling.
Wayland does not allow fractional scaling (yet), but KDE works around it by rendering at 200% and then scaling it back.
That said, I have it working exactly like you want: KDE Wayland screen 1440p 100% + 4k 150%
The only windows that didn't scale were the XWayland windows, which KDE fixed in the latest release.
@killyourfm don't know about fedora/ubuntu/kubuntu but i'm on gentoo running xfce4 and per-monitor scaling works fine for me, has for a long time, so it definitely sounds like an ubuntu specific problem
@killyourfm I'm thinking a bit, and I think what's happening is that maybe most of your apps run under xwayland in wayland and you have XWayland set to scale "by the system", as that'll look blurry.
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