@nev basically I prefer my daily driver to be as “stable” as possible, and by that I mean I don’t want auto update to change my core experience. I do want all security updates, though. This of course creates a problem for me when I need latest user-facing programs, but modern Linux has a solution for that as well…
@darth ahhh yesss I get it. For me it was the exact reason why I liked Arch - because of everything latest being available asap. That’s a double edged sword though… very often tinkering with the system took over my actual todos 👀
@nev I love tonkering with my system tbh, I just don’t want my main PC to break so I have to fix the OS in the moment when I need it. So I tend to experiment more on my laptop which I consider my secondary machine.
I like what Arch is, generally, but I am not a fan of AUR. And without AUR is Arch actually that good? I keep trying to explain Arch to myself like that. Maybe some day…
@nev highlighted part is a big no-no from me. I see it as a recipe for a disaster. But Snap and Flathub have the same problem (user created packages) so I only use official packages and packages maintained by someone credible.
However, I am not sure if it’s the same with AUR? I suspect AUR also has credible package maintainers, right? But does AUR have official packages maintained by program’s authors themselves?
@darth nah, from what I’ve seen there is no “official” AUR package. There could be a dev of the app maintaining one, but I didn’t see a way to mark accounts as verified 💀
I see what you mean now… (and if I’m somehow wrong, someone please correct me)
@darth i did the systemd build when that got popular in distros.
I needed to get used to it after years of InitD. Much had changed since i used to compile kernels manually on very old RedHat and Slackware builds!
@Nudelpfanne I really doubt it will go away. I know many people love it and it’s properly maintained for fans like you. It seems like a standard Linux community win!
@Larvitz I have ... four computers, I suppose. Main PC for gaming, video editing, and pretty much everything else. A laptop for light computing when I am not at my desk, so like a backup PC I guess. One is for work and one is my daughter's. Currently all four are on Debian 12. Actually there is a fifth one which is my headless home server and that one is also on Debian 12. :blobpeek:
The reason why so many Debians is not because I am crazy, but rather I wish to see how far can Debian go...
@Larvitz of course Debian can be a server, everyone knows that. But as a desktop OS or a laptop OS (even a harder job) I need to "feel" how it behaves and how tweakable is.
Since I don't really use my laptop all that much I will most probably use it for distro-hopping starting with Fedora and Ubuntu that are almost released, but for the main PC I think Debian will stay until games no longer work on it because GPU driver is too old or something along those lines.
@darth I went all-debian for many years (2011-2021) but then I started working for a company with a slight preference for "headwear" and due to collegues influence and personal curiosity, decided to give Fedora and CentOS Stream a try and really like the experience so far.
@Larvitz I was actually in the mood to use RHEL9 on my main PC, but after trying it on a laptop it felt like not such a good idea (as a gaming PC haha). But I have some RedHat certifications planned so I will probably install it somewhere again, soon.
@darth IMHO, RHEL shines on a server but Fedora is the modern equivilant on a desktop computer (not everyone probably approves that but that is my personal experience). I currently run Fedora 40 KDE/Plasma on my Thinkpad that I use for Python development and it's absolutely a breeze
@Larvitz I’ve had some really annoying issues with Fedora a year or so ago. In my first two videos actually. Perhaps a problem with Nvidia, I’m not sure but after the OS would update login screen would break. Then a new Fedora came out with exact same problems on my PC so I gave up.
If there is a Linux distro that “just works” in most scenarios it’s probably Ubuntu, meaning Debian isn’t without issues. I have major problems with resuming my desktop PC from sleep on Debian.
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