I don’t use Linux too much, but this matches my experience… I have a raspberry pi 3, running a home automation server.
One day I go to upgrade a plugin for it. It tells me I need to upgrade the home automation server first, so I go do that. It fails because my Node.js install needs to be upgraded too, so I do that. Then, I try to upgrade the home automation server again, but that now fails with a strange error. Stack trace says something about a missing C++ lib in my Node.js install, so I look it up. I try to install the missing library, but it gives more errors. I do more searching and find loads of other people with this issue, my raspbian version can’t support this C++ library version without first being upgraded. Damn, well, it’s midnight and I have work in the morning, I don’t have time for that. I try to get my home automation server up so I can go to bed, but it fails due to problems with the Node.js install. Can’t go to bed without this server running or my smart home accessories don’t work. I try to downgrade to the previous Node.js version. This fails with another error. Couldn’t upgrade, now I can’t downgrade, I’m stuck. I read a thread on GitHub… other people are reinstalling the OS from scratch and starting over. Damn… I start trying to backup my config files so I can do this too. One more check of another post on GitHub and I find some guy shares a command to downgrade Node.js without a fresh OS install. Perfect! I run this, restart my home automation server, and go to bed. Maybe I’ll try to figure out this problem another day.
I borked one of my installs today by accident. I’m not even sure what happened… I upgraded the kernel, then weird things started happening, then X just froze, I restarted, runit would’t even go to phase 3 of the boot process, X couldn’t load, just gave a bunch of errors. Oh well, BTRFS to the rescue 😊. This is where things get interesting 😂.
I was on the phone with my wife while I was trying to bring back a snapshot of the volume… have no idea what I did, but I managed to wipe the root subvolume 😂. Not like just empty, but completely gone 🤣. OK 😬. Let’s see if the snapshots are still there. Yep, still there. OK, recreated the subvolume and tried to load a snapshot of it, this time, wuthout talking on my phone 😂. Worked like a charm 😊. Restart, sure enough, it loads grub and the OS, everything’s back to normal 😊.
Start using filesystems that can make snapshots, like BTRFS or ZFS. Sure, they have a bit of a learning curve, but trust me, it’s worth it.
Been running Fedora since June of last year, and it’s the most “boring” distro I’ve ever used. It’s been rock solid and I haven’t experienced a single issue. None! I have an all-AMD build. The funny thing is that I recently installed Ubuntu 23.10 on a different PC, and I managed to break it after a couple of hours 😂
I pulled out of the Redhat world around 2002 and only recently got back into it via Nobara. I have to agree, Fedora is boringly stable and still pretty cutting edge.
Must be doing something wrong if this is the everyday experience (especially for production). And there’s the ones wanting to experiment, which is a different thing. I guess that’s why this is a meme.
This is why I use Arch. I enjoy the tinkering. One day Arch won’t be enough and I will have to install Gentoo. You will probably never hear from me ever again after that. Mostly because I will be too busy compiling firefox again after a minor update.
I just turn on the Ubuntu computer, play games, Clic the occasional button to install updates and then keep doing my stuff. No maintenance stuff needed unless I mess something up on purpose with tinkering.
I literally didn’t even boot Windows for a month and then when I did, I got BSOD on boot, and it gave me some bullshit about not being able to find a device. How’s that for maintenance? I can’t say I miss it.
Community will crucify me for this, but Linux DE maintenance is the bane of my existence.
Shit “just works” until it inevitably doesn’t, and it takes Linus himself to figure out how to unfuck it due to the absolutely insane level of version churn packages & distros see over the years, making most resources short of “just reinstall it” a fools errand.
Servers? Beautiful. Desktop environments? I literally can’t anymore… Having something go to shit when I REALLY need to get something done has forced me to always have Windows on hand.
Which has turned into “Windows primary” and "Linux DE secondary " over the years. I hate Windows, I yearn for my plasma desktop, but it’s almost always more reliably stable without maintenance for longer in my experience.
This. This exactly. I’m wanting to teach my kids how to use Linux and first I want them to get used to it so I’m exposing them to computers through gCompris… So one of the features of the software stops working I don’t know why I uninstall it I reinstall it. Same problem. So now I’ve got to go figure out what’s wrong with the OS itself that’s causing that problem in the software or just reinstall it, the OS that is, because that’ll only take a few minutes to kick off and I can just leave it alone and it’ll finish whereas the OS troubleshooting could take days or it could be something I never figure out.
Not to mention wrapping wifi drivers… 😭
For fun, I once decided I’d figure it out. I was doing a job where I had free time at work and there was spare hardware sitting around so I decided to go ahead and do it.
PAIN. So painful.
I love Linux, but I like to work on whatever I want to work on, not what the OS decides I need to work on that day.
I don’t understand what people are doing to their machines. I’ve been using Arch Linux exclusively for ~10yrs now and only ONCE had a problem when upgrading Java. That was fixed in about 10mins after reading the Arch update notes.
Most recently I’ve been running AwesomeWM for 2yrs and it’s been so bloody stable and simple. I found KDE just as stable before but a bit heavy for my taste.
Exactly this, I’ve had the same install of the “most unstable de” -arch btw for about 8 years and its fucking fine, yes sometimes you have to remove some old dependancys… the command line had always told me exactly what’s wrong and a quick google later if I’m unsure, blamo it’s fixed like new… haven’t used Windows in about 10 years
This is after the third reboot, and automatic updates were off and I never accepted an update. All I wanted to do was sideload obtanium into the Facebook spy mask and I thought it would be easier than figuring out why it wouldn’t show up in adb on Linux.
I didn’t know about this project and will look into it for future use when family inevitably complains about their phones every time they get a new one without asking me what I think of it first. It’s the quest 3 headset I was talking about. It does come with some apps I haven’t tried that give the impression of bloat but I would be surprised if the device is within the scope of the project.
I did manage to install obtanium and in turn a bunch of other stuff though. Just needed to wait for windows to reboot an additional time, and now it seems to take an additional keypress to get rid of the lock screen before the password box. I’ll probably just try to find the time to figure out what was wrong on the Linux side of things for the future.
All I wanted to do was sideload obtanium into the Facebook spy mask and I thought it would be easier than figuring out why it wouldn’t show up in adb on Linux.
It’s funny, but as an adult now… I’m more concerned my ADHD is like this. It’s so annoying. I don’t even mean to do it. I set out to clean my desktop computer files and the next thing I know I’m painting the garage. Oh and ESPECIALLY if something is important. My mind creates these distractions or ‘focuses’ which allow me to fully set my mind on something, as long as it’s to avoid doing something else… 🤦♂️
Yeah last week I found myself thinking "blazeknave what the fuck are you doing?? You’re prepping online research, for your meeting in five minutes. How did you end up sorting the linen closet? Fuck you man! "
Do you know how I can find it on the Web? I wanted to find it the other day but I didn’t know what terms to use… I was like “clip where nothing works”???
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