onlinepersona,

Linus said it best: Fuck NVIDIA.

Stop giving that company money.

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Zucca,

Predictions of which will win the race?

  • noveau being useful with new nVidia GPUs
  • we’ll reach the year of Linux desktop
potentiallynotfelix,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Imo 2022 was the year of the desktop cause of the steam deck

Ilgaz,

If you use a rolling/half rolling release like Tumbleweed/Fedora, Nouveau is pretty usable and it progresses. That is unless you are a gamer or do AI stuff. It is Nvidia who had to provide an open source driver to their customers. I don’t think Nvidia customers figure they are customers, not beggars as they don’t demand it. That even includes governments and the military.

potentiallynotfelix,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Yeah I am indeed a gamer. I wouldn’t care if I wasn’t

Adanisi,
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

Go tell NVidia to make their cards easily reclockable by anything other than their proprietary drivers and it’ll happen.

BaumGeist,

I’ve been using nouveau on my laptop fpr a few weeks now, and so far, no issues

potentiallynotfelix,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Have you played games?

mariusafa,

Waiting for nvidia to not write the worst firmware ever with so many obfuscated shit that allows the real chad reverse engineers of noveau project to create free software firmware from it.

possiblylinux127,

Its actually getting there with NVK. By summer I predict it will be working on upstream distros like Arch and Fedora.

TheGingerNut,
@TheGingerNut@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yup. You know it’s not the closed source drivers that annoy me. It’s the fact they don’t mesh well with mesa. Ergo certain features (eg. opengl and vulkan acceleration of virtual machines) just don’t make it to nvidia cards unless you use the shitty driver.

sharkfucker420,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Alright how the fuck is that pronounced, im tired of seeing this word everywhere and saying it in my head like 8 times wondering if im pronouncing it right

maryjayjay,

Tell me you’re American…

sharkfucker420,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Its got way too many vowels and my first time seeing it was bc of a minecraft mod

maryjayjay,

It’s just French. 😉 It’s even a borrowed word in English.

I’m kidding, btw. I’m American, too

sharkfucker420, (edited )
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh i knew you were kidding lol, sorry if my response seemed defensive or deadpan i just be like that

I thought it was funny

maryjayjay,

😁 you’re awesome. We should be friends

potentiallynotfelix,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

It’s French for new

Pogogunner,
Pogogunner avatar

New - voh

Fudoshin,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

I think it’s French for new.

So…noo-vo

Floshie,

Pretty much it

possiblylinux127,

No-vo

sharkfucker420,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Thanks

iknowitwheniseeit,

I always assumed that it is pronounced the same as in art nouveau:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Nouveau

Kusimulkku,

I think they just got a huge boost from the vulkan thing and with open Nvidia modules. But the tests seemed to indicate it was still something like 60% of the performance and only on some specific cards. Sad.

It would be so nice if the Nvidia situation was as good as AMD situation or especially Intel situation right now.

knolord,

And the worst part: if you have actual needs for ML stuff - you kinda are stuck with nvidia cards, so you can’t even switch when the need for upgrades arise.

possiblylinux127,

You can do that on AMD but it is a bit slower and takes a little more time

Vuraniute,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Not in my experience. ComfyUI segfaults on a 7900 XT, EndeavourOS, no matter what I do.

miss_brainfarts,

I’m not sure if we’re ever going to get the full potential of a card out of NVK, but the fact that running them above base clock is now possible is pretty huge already.
(Unless I misunderstood something, but I believe that’s now a thing)

Eyck_of_denesle,

When I was new to linux, I followed a guide on youtube and didn’t know I installed noveau instead of nvidia. I couldn’t watch any yt video without massive screen tearing. I thought it was arch linux problem. I wish there was an easier guide out there for new users. Arch wiki is super good but navigating it as a beginner is a bit hard in my opinion.

potentiallynotfelix,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Should not have used arch as a beginner. It is an advanced distro

redcalcium, (edited )

New Linux users usually do not use Arch though. Arch doesn’t advertise itself as friendly to new Linux users. This problem doesn’t exist on distros that cater to new Linux users such as Mint. If you insist on using an Arch-based system, then just use endeavour os which also handles Nvidia drivers automatically.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

well Linus had to pick menjaro first

Eyck_of_denesle,

Yep. I agree. I forgot to mention I did use ubuntu as my first distro. I was not a fan of it after the snap thing. Maybe this problem would be solved with cosmic os.

w3dd1e,

I’m a fairly recent convert to Linux (currently trying out Fedora). I thought GNOME was trash and I didn’t get why anyone used it until I realized that the nvidia kernel wasn’t loading any it was defaulting back to noveau.

Fixed that problem and now all the DEs that I’ve tried seem beautiful and fast, including GNOME.

TimeSquirrel,
TimeSquirrel avatar

This might have accidentally been why I thought Unity DE was a piece of shit back in the day...it still is, but for different reasons.

null,

arch-install

Eyck_of_denesle,

Arch install is really nice. I use it pretty regularly now. It definitely is very good rn. But I wish there was a small webpage kinda thing that explains os, de, wm and drivers to new users. Archinstall is definitely a step in the right direction.

null,

Write it up!

possiblylinux127,

Distros like Pop os and Linux Mint tell you to install the proprietary drivers. (For good or bad)

Hupf,

C’mon, buy a 7900, you know you want it too.

possiblylinux127,

Or a 580 or 590. Honestly graphics performance is solid on older cards and integrated graphics.

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