Feugnis,

What’s the difference between kbin and lemmy?

Metaright,
Metaright avatar

They're both Reddit-esque Fediverse platforms, but are developed and maintained by different people.

Feugnis,

Huh, maybe I’ll look into it

n7gifmdn,
@n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca avatar

Lemmy has been around longer, so it is probably more robust, but Kbin has more features, including the ability to follow individual users across the 'verse, and has support for a number of Fedi groups, including Friendica Forums and Guppe Groups, that Lemmy has no support for.

seitanic,

I thought kbin was more like Mastodon, but maybe I’m confusing it with something else.

jared,
jared avatar

Kbin is basically lemmy plus mastodon.

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

It is its own community that happens to be federated with Lemmy and Mastodon. You can toggle federation on and off, and when off, you only see kbin's material. Otherwise it functionally acts like another lemmy instance, with a different interface and features missing from base lemmy.

There is also a microblog attached to it that connects with Mastodon in the same way. Each community has its own microblog that acts as a hashtag when on Mastodon.

Metaright,
Metaright avatar

This I didn't know. So posting a comment on the microblog will make it visible to Mastodon as well?

Teppic,
Teppic avatar

This is where I link my own post from a few days ago - but basically to say kbin is actually a very good way to browse Mastodon "Toots", and yes you can post just as easily too.
https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/275724/Browsing-the-wider-fediverse-from-kbin

Dee,
@Dee@lemmy.world avatar

And Lemmy, they all talk to each other via ActivityPub. There’s a number of commenters in this thread that are commenting from Mastodon and Kbin (like yourself) while I’m on Lemmy.

n7gifmdn,
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Lemmy isn’t designed to access microblogs or follow individual users though, so you’d probably never see it from Lemmy.

Roundcat, (edited )
@Roundcat@mastodon.social avatar

@Metaright

Yep! Posting on the microblog is basically like making a direct Mastodon post.

But on top of that, you're even visible in the threads as well, and I can interact with you from Mastodon. If you've ever gotten an "@" reply here, it was likely a Mastodon user responding to you.

The thing is kbin and lemmy threads aren't exactly passively visible from Mastodon. They don't appear in the hashtag results by default. but I can follow a community just like a user and see posts from there.

callyral,
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i'm pretty sure when federation is off it also means you won't see other kbin instances, just your own

n7gifmdn,
@n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca avatar

They are different platforms, you can access Lemmy communities from Kbin, where it looks just like a kbin magazine, or from Friendica, where it looks just like a Friendica Forum, of from Mastodon, where it looks like an annoying bot that re-posts every comment as a separate Re-toot. —

There are many other Fediverse platforms but those are the ones I have the most experience with.

seitanic,

Interesting. I haven’t yet seen actual federation. (That I was aware of, anyway.)

How would I access something on Mastodon from Lemmy (for example)?

Lucidlethargy,

Is Mastadon just Lemmy with extra restrictions? Like, can’t they see posts like mine, which bare no character limit?

moosetwin,

yeah but no one would make multiple lemmy accounts

moosetwin,

yeah what that guy said

n7gifmdn,
@n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca avatar

that’s not true, there are multiple reasons one might like to, such as if you are interested in content that is blocked by one instance, particular if you want to access content on instance a and also content on instance b, and instance a blocks instance B, or vice versa.

you could want to have separate personalities, one that you discuss your expertise as a mechanic, and another that you use to talk about your expertise as a Furry.

You might want a sock account to argue with people without getting negative votes on your primary account, etc.

Haus,

If you accidentally upvote yourself on another platform, you could go blind.

seitanic,

What’s kbin? When I saw it, I thought it was Mastodon… It’s a separate thing?

jetsetdorito,

The weird/annoying part is coming across your deleted posts on other instances 😒

seitanic,

That fucking sucks. I hope the deletion eventually migrates, too…

faintwhenfree,

Can someone help me see how the cross apps thing works? Like can you link some mastodon post that I can see here on lemmy?

Fu,
@Fu@hostux.social avatar

@memes @faintwhenfree @seitanic it kind of works like this ;-)

faintwhenfree,

These are all cross lemmy references. But thanks.

Fu,
@Fu@hostux.social avatar

@memes @faintwhenfree I think you are misunderstanding that I am commenting from Mastodon

faintwhenfree,

Oh right that makes sense. Sorry my bad.

n7gifmdn,
@n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca avatar

lemmy isn’t designed to do that, but mastodon is. For example if you paste the perma-link for your comment lemmus.org/comment/791388 into the search bar of your Mastodon account on Theres.life you’d find the same content at theres.life/…/110834025709111907

faintwhenfree,

Thanks mate

n7gifmdn,
@n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca avatar

deleted

maybe, maybe not. Particularly if your account is followed by anyone with a platform that doesn’t support DELETE from remote servers, like like earlier versions of Diaspora and GNU Social. and yoru delete command might not work such as if the remote server is down when the delete request is sent. Once you choose delete most platforms send a request to every server that it knows of to delete the same, if it doesn’t get a response within a certain amount of time it will request it again, and after so many failures it stops trying. The server could later come back up and it never know that the item was deleted.

I’m not sure aware off hand of any servers that make it easy for admins to turn off the ability to delete, but its Free Software so anyone could download the source code edit it as they see fit, like removing the delete function, compile it and run it on their own server.

Its a really great reminder that we all should assume anything that has ever been posted on the internet will exist forever. So don’t post stuff that is going to come back and haunt you.

seitanic,
itsgroundhogdayagain,

I never see any of this stuff on Mastadon

SportingChap,

My Mastodon account boosting my Pixelfed post! 🫵🏻

Metal_Zealot,
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Hello me, meet the real me

metalzealot,

and my misfits way of life

bquintb,
@bquintb@midwest.social avatar

a dark black past is my…most valued possession.

w2tpmf,

CHU-DUU-DUN

TimeSquirrel,
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Why are you using multiple accounts? You DO know you can read/write posts across servers, right? Like me right now posting a comment to Lemmy from Kbin.

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

I do know, and I do it cause I can. The features and UI are different from site to site, and sometimes I'm a Reddit classic mood, Twitter mood, or a combination of the two. It's the same content, but different ways of experiencing and interacting with it you know? Plus until Kbin gets mobile app support, I have my Lemmy account for Sync.

Osa-Eris-Xero512,

If you haven't yet, you should try loading kbin as a progressive web app. I find it works quite well that way.

baronvonj,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

that’s why you have separate profile pics for each service, to help you recognize which you’re seeing!

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

Exactly. The problem is what do I do when I have more accounts than there are Eeveelutions?

Lemmylefty,
@Lemmylefty@lemmy.world avatar

Use Spinda patterns instead.

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

Brilliant!

Hello_there,

You can use the same account on kbin and lemmy tho

yukichigai,
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Can't you use the same account on kbin and mastodon as well?

callyral,
callyral avatar

technically yes but the experience is pretty different

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

I know, but having separate accounts within the interfaces of each site can be helpful. If I have a Mastodon account, I know exactly how my posts are going to look and act on Mastodon. Same goes with Lemmy and Kbin.

I also have access to features on one service I wouldn't have on others. Some posts are easier to view and access from a different site or instance. Kbin doesn't have any mobile apps yet, so I use my Lemmy account when I want to access fed on mobile.

Lastly, sometimes I'm just in the mood to use one site over the other. If I'm in the mood for more Twittery content I go to Mastodon. If I'm in a more Reddit mood, I go on Lemmy. If I want to do both at the same time, I use Kbin.

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