guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

It is very difficult to find manual transmission in a passenger car in the US now. I would like one but good luck finding what you want used. Even new, very few models have a manual option. And I think it costs more for a manual transmission now. It used to be cheaper.

bloodfart,

The cheapest car I know of off the lot is a base model versa which comes with a manual that’s decent.

The noob trap is “upgrading” it to get the automatic. It’s maybe the worst new cvt you can buy.

IndiBrony,
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

Can confirm: I drive a Nissan and the CVT is feckin awful.

guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

Nissan Versa?

Does the base MSRP of $15,980 have the manual transmission?

Imma have to test drive that, I think.

bloodfart,

Yeah the lowest trim level has a manual (or can be had with a manual). Call ahead to the dealership to make sure they have it in.

Nindelofocho,

christ, a base model Versa for $16k. Thats a nightmare

MindSkipperBro12,

Just get with the times, dumbass

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

1461 people would disagree with you.

would you get the neuralink just because everyone else is? not saying it is the same obv, but with your logic…

happyhippo,

I’m a car enthusiast and a fan of manual transmission.

But driving in traffic is such a PITA. And in some places like San Francisco it’s nearly impossible to drive manual without changing a clutch every semester, probably.

While I find manual much more engaging and own one, automatic has its undeniable advantages.

luckyhunter,

And what’s with this keyless ignition bullshit? How am I supposed to leave my car running with the doors locked when the damn FOB needs to be inside the car?

Patches,

What does your car do when you take the keys out?

Might let me leave that bitch running forever. It only checked on start up and then never again.

luckyhunter,

Oh I’ve just driven a few with fobs and in the winter I’ve gone out to start it to warm up and walk back inside and they turn off. Maybe others are different.

bemenaker,

Handbrake start lololol. Rank amateur. Side step off brake to gas .

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

lol

dumnezeu,

Why use a button or key to start your car? Spin the lever like real drivers used to! Why have ABS? Brake without it, like real drivers do! Why wear a seat belt? Drive without one, like real drivers used to do back in the days. Why buy luxury cars with all those safety features and use them, instead of disabling them like real drivers used to? Be a driver, make it as hard as possible to drive a car, but at least you’ll drive. Or use an automatic, it’s way better.

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

slippery slope fallacy and whataboutism. if youre fine with driving an auto, why not just use a self driving car for everything? just wire your whole with google and alexa for convinience and automation. and please, if youre actually thinking they sound like good ideas, please think about how dystopian that really is.

Kidnose,

I agree but… As a shift week commuter I must say I much prefer the automatic in terms of both convenience and comfort. I drive long stretches at a time and having to constantly switch gears manually quickly turns into an annoyance. Also eating food or doing something else with your right hand is so much easier when you have an auto.

But if I once were to buy a leisure car it would be manual without a doubt.

systemglitch,

I have an automatic right now, and dearly miss my manual (tree fell on it).

SimonSaysStuff,

Well, jokes on you because Range Rover do not refer to the middle picture as a “gear stick”. Probably because there is nothing stick like about it.

Dracona,

I learned to drive in an automatic… in the 1980s. Pretty common here in Australia. Yes can drive a manual as well but prefer auto as I have arthritis. Many disabled people prefer auto.

butterflyattack,

As does my mum, who failed her test over ten times in a manual. She just couldn’t get the hang of the clutch. Me, I don’t like automatics, feels like I have less control.

Patches,

Manual cars represent less than 2% of the auto market so it is not disabled people’s.

Charlatan,

Wow. #1 ‘get off my lawn’ post of the day. There is nothing wrong with auto… It’s the drivers.

Barsukis,

It’s a meme lol

EmperorHenry,

can’t I just use a centrifugal clutch?

arc,

Spent all my life driving manual cars and I am completely comfortable and at ease with their pending demise due to hybrids and full BEVs. I wouldn’t be surprised if some EVs get phony gears and broom broom noises for people who can’t cope with just having to set a direction and push a pedal to make things happen.

TurtleTourParty,

I wouldn’t be surprised if some EVs get phony gears and broom broom noises

Lexus made one already

caranddriver.com/…/lexus-built-an-ev-with-a-fake-…

Kyoyeou,

No God damn please, dont ruin my Utopia of everyone in 2040 running almost silent cars :(

TurtleTourParty,

Sorry to burst your bubble.

“basic traffic noise from highways won’t get perceptibly quieter due to electric cars. Urban road traffic noise below 40 kph likely will, as engine noise starts to dominate at lower speeds. And we can all look forward to fewer and fewer noisy motorcycles and trucks, and no economy cars with broken mufflers.”

cleantechnica.com/…/will-electric-cars-make-traff…

arc,

Interesting to see if that makes it to production. To me it seems as dumb as someone buying an MP3 player that has a fake turntable, record and needle you need to set down for the music to play.

Lesrid,

Hell even automatic ICE vehicles have this. Toyota deliberately makes the transmission less responsive in their vehicles because they found that drivers prefer to feel a bit of lurching.

Hikermick,

I thought that was the anti millennial theft device

Honytawk,

Nope, it is the American theft devise. Always has been.

partizan,

I went from a inline 6 BMW diesel manual engine I drive for 10 years to my current Mazda 6 2.5L with automatic. Its easier and more luxurious to drive the automatic, but when I going for drive enjoyment I still have the habit of grabbing the shift lever when downshift is needed, and I often miss the feel and control of the manual when I edging it on curvy roads, even when my automatic has shift paddles, its just not the same.

But in a traffic jam in a city, for sure I will any day take an automatic over manual…

TheFrirish,

wow nearly the same as you I went from a in-line 6 diesel series 5 bmw manual from 1997 (it felt like driving a mix of a bus and tank) to a Corolla hybrid hatchback automatic. I miss shifting gears sometimes but it’s such a relaxing experience especially when in a hybrid. I actually generally prefer driving now and I believe that those two vehicles are actually comparable in the sense that they are both not built for speed but rather comfort/fuel economy and the Toyota beats it in both aspects. (although the seats in the bmw were like sitting in a sofa).

Honytawk,

The early automatics were a nightmare though. It took like almost a full second for them to react to pushing the acceleration pedal.

And when you are waiting for an opportune moment to merge onto a highway lane, a second could mean the difference between life and death.

So glad this isn’t the case with any EVs though. It is just push and go.

Clanket,

Bought my first automatic this year (VW ID4). Will never drive a manual ever again. So much easier to drive automatic.

rustydomino,
@rustydomino@lemmy.world avatar

ID.4 is an EV and has so much torque that it doesn’t NEED a traditional transmission. I <3 my ID.4.

Catweazle,
@Catweazle@vivaldi.net avatar

@Clanket @darcy, with the more and more appearance of electric cars, the gear change is going to disappear anyway, not necessary in electric motors

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