ruckblack,

It’s actually insane how difficult it can be to find settings in windows. Especially when the indexing breaks for the 1000th time and you can’t just search for it in the start menu.

Rentlar,

Hey, maaaaaybe you wanted to search how to do that in Bing!

-Windows

lseif,

nope, they definitely wanted an AI answer.

prime_number_314159,

AI answer: Type the setting into the start menu search bar. The first result will be the setting you’re looking for.

cyberpunk007,

This is the start menu experience:

“Photoshop”

*Wait 15 seconds *

“Here are some results from bing:”

😡😡

Mac and Linux it’s instant, and not some garbage AI/ads/web search results.

ruckblack,

I have no idea why it breaks like this so often too. And it’s such a pain in the ass to try to fix that I’ve generally given up on trying. At least when something very rarely happens with the indexer on Linux I know where to look to fix it.

meowMix2525,

Lol I installed open shell several years ago and have not looked back since. If I wanted to search the web with your shitty search engine, microsoft, I would have opened your shitty browser, now please sit down.

Probably shouldn’t have installed it on my work computer for security compliance reasons but it’s such an improvement in my workflow that I couldn’t not install it. Highly recommend. Legit cannot imagine using windows without it anymore. github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

labsin,

Especially when you start typing something and it already started searching with your partial input and you your further and notice the thing your search for is first so you press enter, for it to now place another thing first with the extra input 😡

How can “displ” open display settings, but “display” opens a help page in Edge

BCsven,

This. You seem to have to give it less. Also it is just broken. I have excel installed, if i start typing excel ( even with app filter) it can’t present it to me, it wants to hand me an ad or info page about what excel is and where to download it from

Psychodelic,

I just install list art on all my computers. I occasionally test the windows search but it fails spectacularly, 9.5 out of 10 times

BCsven,

I have a dual boot machine, windows takes forever to find sometging with or without indexing in use. Boot to linux I type 2-3 letters and GNOME/tracker index hands me files instantly. if I mount the NTFS windows partition in Linux and use the aearch in Nautilus it finds files faster than windows.

words_number,

Hahaha yees! The start menu search is hilarious!! You install a software, type in the exact bame of the software afterwards and the start menu search gives you the installer from your download folder instead of the installed program with the exact name you typed. The devs must have a lot of fun there. This is peak satire.

Omgboom,

That’s why you enable godmode

tomshardware.com/…/enable-god-mode-windows-11

MeetInPotatoes,

So fucking annoyed at the taskbar overflow shit in Windows now. I don’t want it hiding any of my system tray icons…I want to see what’s running and I don’t care how it looks. Every time certain apps update themselves, I have to go in again and select that particular app to hide itself with no way to tell Windows to just stop trying to hide system tray icons altogether. I’ve told it to hide Discord and the Xbox app probably 20 times each now and it conveniently forgets my decision every app update.

jasondj,

Dude I got fucking livid yesterday because Alt keyboard shortcuts no longer work in Paint.

You have to interact with the ribbon before the alt key works.

And then there’s no key shortcut for “Save As” or “Exit”.

The fuck Microsoft. They weren’t hurting anyone and you’re wrecking 30 years of muscle memory. You know how frustrating that is?

Sylvartas,

Haha I ran into this a few months ago. I too was losing my fucking mind over this

jasondj,

Honestly if I hadn’t switched to Linux 10 years ago I would’ve said that this would be the thing to set me off and switch. (This was my work computer, and even though Ubuntu is available, Linux users are second-class citizens in my shop…all sorts of weird issues and not nearly enough support because it’s a very limited offering)

It’s incredibly frustrating. It’s more than muscle memory at this point, it’s practically instinct. It’s so anti-user and there’s no reason to do it except to bring paint into the fold of all the other ribbon office apps, as if people haven’t been complaining about everything wrong about ribbon for what, 8 years now?

Muffi,

For the past 8 years I have had to disable ‘mouse acceleration’ after every Windows update. The updates have become more frequent, and the setting to disable acceleration has slowly become buried deeper in the menus. Switched to Linux two days ago and I’m never looking back.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

i actually prefer acceleration btw

mynamesnotrick,

Appwiz.cpl, ncpa.cpl, desk.cpl and mmsys.cpl. I use all the time… ever since win 8 changed all the settings ui. That new ui, while getting better since 8 still sucks since the old control panel. I hope they never remove it since windows is still the name of the game for end users (even in some software dev environments).

Here’s a list of cpl, you just use them at run or even the windows search. www.itechtics.com/control-panel-applets-cpl/

PurplebeanZ,

Thank you I’ve bookmarked this as I’m always forgetting them.

StuffYouFear,

Thank you for the good read, definitely will come in handy at work

quams69,

The new windows appification and UI shit screams “we think people are straight up fuckin retarded” to me. They might as well manufacture keyboards to look like speak and spell toys

Blue_Morpho,

If it actually was easier, I wouldn’t complain. But in most cases, the new settings make it harder to find and change settings.

dlok,

I’ve got fed up of them changing how many hoops you go through to get to the old settings so I have the .cpl commands memorized that work no matter what computer you’re at

Appwiz.cpl ncpa.cpl for common examples

doctorcrimson,

According to Dave Plummer, a retired Windows Engineer, there are actually bugs in some of the windows components because he intended for them to be temporary solutions, like the CPU or Hard Drive usage numbers had to be Massaged to be lower than 100%, for example. When the Task Manager doesn’t respond you can actually use Ctrl+Shift+Esc to queue up a new Task Manager if the old one doesn’t revive itself. That stuff hasn’t changed since 1996.

He also wrote the File Formatter, which has a file size limit of 32Gb for the Fat32 format for the same reason: it wasn’t supposed to be permanent, but it hasn’t changed for over 20 years. The concept at the time was that Cluster Slack would make a large drives like a terabyte more than 99% wasted space in the format, so 32Gb was arbitrarily chosen as a limit.

jasondj,

I went to go disable my nic.

It needed a reboot to take effect.

The fuck? I only want to turn it off because I’m testing something and I need a change of ip to test an application and I’m feeling lazy, so I turn off the nic to go to wifi. Good enough? Nope.

So stand up and unplug the cord.

Cool. Switched over. Test didn’t work as expected. Plug cord back in.

Next day computer reboots for updates and I’ve got no internet. Go crazy trying to figure out what it was then remember it needed a reboot to disable the nic.

foobaz,

fyi Dave was involved in some scareware bullshit as one of the main actors and sued for it. Fuck this guy.

Traister101,
foobaz,

Thanks for looking this up ❤️

doctorcrimson,

Very unfortunate to hear. I wonder how much of his YT Channel were lies?

foobaz,

I aggree. I really liked his videos until came across this info (back then on reddit).

EddoWagt,

He also wrote the File Formatter, which has a file size limit of 32Gb for the Fat32 format for the same reason: it wasn’t supposed to be permanent, but it hasn’t changed for over 20 years.

I was thinking about this recently, so it is a bug, not a feature

doctorcrimson,

I mean, it was intentional in a way, so the definition of bug is hazy, but the functioning version would be the ExFAT format.

EddoWagt,

But the problem isn’t in Fat32 itself, as you can format larger disks in that format just fine

doctorcrimson, (edited )

Yes, the final line of my comment explains that, it’s just that the cluster size in Fat32 has a lower bound so if you have files smaller than the cluster then they take a whole cluster, and that can lead to cluster slack that is vast majority wasted space.

CucumberFetish,

If it has been a bug for 20+ years, we can safely say it’s a feature for backwards compatibility.

drathvedro,

file size limit of 32Gb for the Fat32 format

The limit was a 4GB limit, tho

Galaxy,

The limit on formatting drives as fat32 is 32GB on windows though anything above 32GB and you have to go find a 3rd party tool to convert larger disks to fat32

Jakeroxs,

They’re talking about the overall size, not the per file size limit.

Ticktok,

Dave’s youtube channel is great for these stories from back in the day. Link for the lazy: www.youtube.com/

jasondj,

I went to go disable my nic.

It needed a reboot to take effect.

The fuck? I only want to turn it off because I’m testing something and I need a change of ip to test an application and I’m feeling lazy, so I turn off the nic to go to wifi. Good enough? Nope.

So stand up and unplug the cord.

Cool. Switched over. Test didn’t work as expected. Plug cord back in.

Next day computer reboots for updates and I’ve got no internet. Go crazy trying to figure out what it was then remember it needed a reboot to disable the nic.

SitD,

bro I’m so happy that the last windows i set up was 2015… i remember every time the excruciating 1h set aside to click and confirm and authenticate privileged access and pull slider etc… no sensible way to just run it in terminal, at least not that i know of. and nowadays there’s this useless right-click menu that hides the real right-click menu and you can only fix this by finding a registry key 😂😂😂

HiddenLayer5,

Because Microsoft went full Apple and adopted the “we know what’s good for you so don’t defy our decisions” philosophy of UX design.

lupercalia,

They went full WEF

jol,

As much as I hate apple, at least apple also caters to power users somewhat. Windows became so, so dumb.

KyuubiNoKitsune,

A a Windows and at some points a Mac admin, all I gotta say to that is lol, no.

jol,

Whatever you say mate. There’s a reason developers who don’t Linux use macs and not windows.

KyuubiNoKitsune,

Because it’s based off of BSD and uses very similar tools to Linux, and because of brainwashing of the Apple cult I guess.

Overall, OSX is a piece of shit OS that is shit to work on. I lasted a year before I just gave it back and got a Windows machine, most unintuitive frustrating OS I’ve ever used. Sure the hardware can seem nice (if it doesn’t break or if you don’t need anything repaired or replaced) but OSX is trash. If you want to use something, use Linux, there are tons of good distros and all of them cater to the power user.

jol,

Then why don’t you use Linux? Going from Mac back to Windows is absolutely pathetic.

KyuubiNoKitsune,

Because I like Windows, and calling it “pathetic” is like saying OSX is for power users. Lol, just, lol.

I’ve been in the industry for 18 years, I went from an MS Systems Engineer building and managing MS infrastructure for all size companies and enterprises. I’ve been an AWS Cloud Support engineer working mainly on Linux and AWS, I’ve been a devops engineer building and maintaining on prem build systems and web server farms (these used IIS and everything was MS) for a company with insane uptime requirements, I’ve also done similar on AWS with K8s and a whole bunch of other stuff. I’m now a Systems Engineer in a build team for a big company and my primary responsibility is to build and manage the OSX infra we use. During that time I’ve had enough experience of trying to deal with OSX and all it’s BS, which included using a MacBook for a year, that I can say unequivocally that Apple is a shitty company with shitty practices, and Linux can be a pain in the ass to fix when things break in strange ways. But you know what I love about Windows? It just works, I rarely have any issues. If I need Linux, I use WSL or start a VM in the cloud or my machine. I can run pretty much everything I need without issues and I’m a master with PowerShell so can automate anything I need to do on my own PC.

But you know what? You’re completely right, my career is a failure and I’m pathetic because I use Windows. I should go kms now.

KyuubiNoKitsune,

I work on OSX build machines every day and the amount of time I have to waste fiddling to get the simplest shit to work is insane. Fuck I hate it so much with every fiber of my body. I can’t even use any cli utils to get disk or network stats because of their dumb security BS, which you can’t disable because it’s cloud hosted.

Blue_Morpho,

It’s not that because Microsoft is changing their own UI. IMO this is the typical corporate climber problem all corporations have. No one gets promotions maintaining software. So you get designers changing stuff for the sake of change so it can go on their resume.

EmergMemeHologram,

I don’t know what Apple did but they murdered System Preferences and made us all watch as they pretended the mutilated corpse with a name tag on still dripping with middle manager cum is better.

vimdiesel,

no bro just go into terminal and type out this arcane command with 20 options fr fr . easy! (and I use linux on the regular lol)

EmergMemeHologram,

Slightly better than editing some plist file

TheGrandNagus, (edited )

The difference is that Apple usually executes it well, and Microsoft doesn’t.

You set a Windows PC to dark mode, half of the system is still bright white. Apple wouldn’t dream of doing that shit.

You start searching in the start menu, it’s slow, gives you different results each day, misses a bunch of stuff, and tries to send you to Bing. Apple wouldn’t dream of doing that shit.

Microsoft comes up with a new UX, but it’s only a thin veneer, most of the system doesn’t even use it and instead uses Win7 or earlier menus. Apple wouldn’t dream of doing that shit.

For all their flaws (and believe me I know they have many. I don’t intend to ever own an Apple product), Apple actually gives a shit about having a polished and consistent UX.

They wouldn’t have a dark mode that still leaves half the system white, they wouldn’t have 20+ year old UI cruft, etc.

HiddenLayer5, (edited )

The issue is that Apple had that mentality from the start. Microsoft tried to Frankenstein it in after the OS had already matured under a different UX philosophy, not only that, they also didn’t commit all the way to changing the philosophy since they still wanted legacy support. They basically ended up with the drawbacks of both philosophies and very little of the benefits of either.

dynamo,

*unwilling

banneryear1868,

I wish home and pro version influenced the setting panes. I get what they’re trying to do with making it look like OSX and Linux and why the “network interface and adapters” probably isn’t helpful for many home users, but I just wanna manage my interfaces here.

KyuubiNoKitsune,

I think Network and Sharing Centre was more useful than the shit we have now.

NutWrench,
@NutWrench@lemmy.ml avatar

21st century Windows developer: “Hey! You know what people REALLY want in a text-based Office Suite? VERY very light gray text on a white background!”

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

On the other hand, it should be 7% black (gray) background for 100% black text, and inverse for dark mode.

NutWrench,
@NutWrench@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s like Windows is devolving into really, REALLY early Linux, where a single Control Panel application is broken up into a half dozen separate parts and scattered throughout the interface in a dozen separate sub-sub-sub menus.

You should NOT have to hunt for the “print” button in a freaking word processor.

MrRazamataz,
@MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyz avatar

I mean File->Print makes sense to me…

Crack0n7uesday,

Ctrl + p still works?

Trainguyrom,

I’m trying to remember but some Microsoft Office product did something entirely unexpected when I hit Ctrl+P to print. I wish I could remember the details but it was absolutely soul crushing seeing even basic keyboard shortcuts remapped

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