Fades,

There are ways around that, for example I watch my Plex server on an Apple TV and there is an option that will reduce loud sounds so I can hear dialogue without being blasted away at other parts

jenny_ball,
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

shibas are crazy tho

afraid_of_zombies,

Ok it can’t just be me. It feels like at a certain point sound levels got messed up. When I watch older stuff it’s fine the new stuff I feel like I am skipping backwards to catch what they said.

JoJoGAH,

This has driven me crazy for a long time too. It really feels like this picture and takes something away from any enjoyment.

drivepiler,

It isn’t just you. Vox has a good video on it.

Kethal,

What an obnoxious conclusion they have - we need to buy better speakers. I have good speakers. Old things sound great, but new shows sound like crap. This is their problem to fix, not ours.

drivepiler,

I completely agree, it’s ridiculous. There are settings on both my TV and streaming devices to try to combat this “problem”.

FrostKing,

Someone in my family calls this “whispering explosions” which I’m pretty sure comes from something, not sure what

victorz,

This is why I turn on the audio normalization on my TV. It makes the explosions sound super weird but it’s impossible to watch movies with kids sleeping otherwise. The mixing is so bad.

hglman,

The mixing isn’t for your home. Which it obviously should be.

victorz,

Watching TV is also shit. When an ad break comes, I have to mute the sound or turn down the volume, regardless of normalization. That should be illegal in my opinion but it’s the status quo.

rimjob_rainer,

If you make a movie you make it with multiple audio tracks (lines), often there are dozens of lines for cinemas and more for IMAX. If you mix all those lines together, e.g. to 5.1 for home cinema you’ll lose dynamic range. Now if you mix it into 2 lines (stereo) this means you basically have everything (explosion, whispers) on the same two lines for left and right and that’s why you either need at least a front speaker for dialogue (so only effects are muddy but voices are clear) or bear with it.

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Or studios could go back to properly mixing their audio when making versions for home setups

rimjob_rainer,

They do for 5.1, which is a pretty common home setup, even 3.0 or 3.1 works quite okay with it. How many people do actually watch movies with a stereo setup nowadays?

OnlyTakesLs,

Anyone with a perfectly good tv that doesnt need a sound system.

rimjob_rainer,

There are no TVs with built in speakers which don’t sound like a tin can.

rolaulten,

Everyone with a sound bar. Depending on the sound bar you might have a dedicated base - but you might not.

rimjob_rainer,

Most sound bars have more than 2 channels nowadays.

rolaulten,

Really? TIL.

Kethal,

I have a center channel. New shows sound like crap. Old ones sound great. It’s not people’s equipment.

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Most people I know use their TV speakers. Maybe sound engineers should engineer the sound so that it sounds good in stereo OR 5.1

31337,

I personally like high dynamic range. Most receivers, and I’m guessing most smart TVs, have some form of dynamic range compression if you don’t. Bad quality, “realistic” voice recordings are a different issue. Having a center channel speaker also helps a lot.

Zorg,
@Zorg@lemmings.world avatar

Most TVs seem to default to playing the surround audio track, which is a terrible idea when you only have stereo speakers, but I guess the TVs do it in case you decide to hook up a multi speaker system mid movie?? Choosing the down mixed stereo audio instead, makes for a much better experience for most people.

calypsopub,

Center channel speaker FTW

xarexyouxmadx,

This should be illegal. I’m so tired of having to turn the TV up to hear the dialogue and then all the sudden the loudest noise you ever heard in your life. Then you turn it down … But here’s the next dialogue where you have to turn it back up again.

It really ruins the experience for me personally

AnarchistsForDemocracy,

I am on a gnu+linux (it’s an operating system like windows or iOS) and I use the pulseeffects app it has all sorts of soundeffects that you can use on your audio.

I just use the compressor to even out the volume throughout. Especially useful on youtube.

brian,

ok rms

Honytawk,

I hate it.

Windows has a great feature called Loudness Equalization, which you can enable on about every sound device in the properties.

It lowers the volume on loud sounds and increases on soft sounds.

Rai,

Hell yeah PREACH brotha!

My partner and I use it for watching ANYTHING. Turn it off for music and games, and on for any possible watching thing. It’s MAGIC.

macgyver,
@macgyver@federation.red avatar

I’ll take it a step further and recommend K-Lite Codec Pack, it lets you set up MPC-HC with that and the option to enable center boost for 5.1 audio on 2.0 setups

Rai,

I’ll scope it out! I love VLC but I use MPC-HC when I use SVP to smooth animation up to 60FPS. People hate on smoothing but it works soooooo much better with a decent video card than with a 4000USD Samsung TV hahaha. Get yo artifacts outta here

Quick edit: I have a 2.1 setup, I assume that’s fine still?

macgyver, (edited )
@macgyver@federation.red avatar

Yeah, 2.1 doesn’t have center either (it’s the real reason dialogue is quiet and background is loud. 5.1 expects SL-L-C-R-SR and sub (the .1) C plays the “dialogue” track normally.

TheControlled,

Buy a sound system.

ByteWizard,

Subtitles ruin native-language movies. I’ll enable them if I’m watching something in public because I’m not a monster but otherwise I hate them.

Get some decent speakers, FFS. A ‘sound bar’ does not qualify. A good center channel speaker is essential. Don’t even need the rear surrounds with a good front setup.

SlopppyEngineer,

Try dubbing for ruining native-language movies.

ByteWizard,

Agree in many cases. I wouldn’t watch a dub of Seven Samurai for instance. But Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? A dub is fine there IMO.

Kase,

Subtitles ruin native-language movies.

Why is that?

ByteWizard,

You end up reading and not watching the movie. Focus is split between the two instead of just enjoying the experience.

NotMyOldRedditName,

I have this problem with games, but there’s no rewind on games, and for some reason every game maker has decided that the most critical information you ever get happens when there’s loud sounds going on as some climatic event is happening and you can’t understand a fucking thing they say.

So most of the game I don’t need it, except for what ends up being the most important times I need it and don’t have it, so I have to leave them on in games.

And ya it’s distracting. At best I’m concentrating on not reading them which is distracting itself.

Double_A,
@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I doubt most people even have a soundbar…

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

no , it’s just that almost all streaming services think you have dolby atmos surround sound

Blackmist,

I do.

I still have subs on.

CaptDust,

Atmos won’t save you from shitty sound mixes, I have a pretty nice speaker setup and still have to turn on captions if I want to hear a conversation without my neighbors calling the cops during the next action sequence.

Kecessa,

I have it, still need subtitles because mumbling is cool yo

SlopppyEngineer,

Classic schooled actors with theater experience are being replaced by young actors using basic conversational speech and volume. More natural but not that easy to understand.

dustyData,

Hmm, no, that one is on snob directors and pretentious sound engineers.

squidman64,

“Back in my day, people talked more clearly!”

No grandpa, you’re just going deaf

Blackmist,

No, there’s definitely an element of not speaking clearly.

Matthew McConaughey and Tom Hardy as examples. Chris Nolan gets shit on for his terrible sound mixing, but him picking actors who mumble is the main issue.

Put on a movie from 1980 vs one from 2020. The voice clarity is night and day.

jaybone,

Dude that shit is recorded on microphones and levels can be adjusted with mixers.

dustyData, (edited )

Not just that, they assume you have an IMAX Dolby system installed in your theater sized living room, that everyone obviously has. Bad mixes are inexcusable and sound mixing snobbism is a symptom of the pompous pretentiousness that is the rotten core of Hollywood. Yes, Hollywood, most foreign films with DTS have perfectly good and serviceable mixes that sound nice in both Stereo and Surround…

Damage,

That’s why I love Star Trek. I never have trouble understanding dialogue.

Holyhandgrenade,
@Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world avatar

Older TV shows generally have a more even audio mix, because they were mixed for clear dialogue on TV speakers. Nowadays even TV shows have movie theater mixes, despite the fact that no one will ever see these shows in the cinema. I think TV execs just assume way more people have a Dolby Atmos system in their living room than they do in reality. It’s pretty stupid.

AnarchistsForDemocracy,

why not provide two mix-downs one for regular people and one for idio… I mean those tv execs?

penquin,

I already fucking struggle with understanding English since it’s my second language, and with this new shit sound, it’s now fucking worse. I used to be able to do without subtitles most of the time, but now I can’t watch shit without it.

Double_A,
@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Same. I can’t watch English movies on a TV because I just don’t understand it… But then with headphones on everything is perfect.

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