Who cares. Lemmy.world sucks. I got tired of the constant server issues and switched a while ago. It took me like 5 minutes to find another instance and create an account. If my new instance does dumb shit like this, I’ll just move again. Isn’t this the whole point of Lemmy?
Problem isn’t Lemmy.world, it’s the DDOS kiddies attacking whatever instance hosts the most popular communities. Other instances are just as vulnerable.
Lemmy.world is pretty small in the grand scheme of social media. It’s only 130k accounts and about 3500 users a day. If Lemmy really takes off, instances the size of currently Lemmy.world are going to be the small fries. Like email, we’re going to have whale domains.
I just make a new account and switch back and forth depending on server stability. As soon as it starts giving me issues I switch to an account on another instance. It’s pretty quick with the app I’m using (Sync).
I don’t mean to shit on anyone who would rather use an open source decentralized platform over privately owned Reddit, but Lemmy.World is definitely the most obnoxious large instance, with a lot of people still holding over a lot of those reddit toxicity mannerisms. On top of that the admins/devs of that instance are always having major technical issues that they can’t seem to overcome. Wish them the best though.
Yup, this is why I joined and donated to dbzer0 and not lemmy.world. Hosting lemmy is not enough, it’s critical to also protect free speech and open access to information.
Dude, you’re on lemmy.ml which censors your words. Try to write ‘bitch’ for example, you can’t. You also can’t read it, it will show as removed (only for lemmy.ml users).
What a weird decision. There are definitely words I wouldn’t mind having auto-removed, but bitch?? Don’t start a dog breeding community on lemmy.ml, I guess! And forget Freddy Kreuger or Jesse Pinkman ever having accounts there!
It’s possible to ban bad things and not ban good things. Free speech absolutism “never ban anything, everything is permitted!” is a child’s understanding of censorship.
This thing. This thing always confuses me. Sometimes I see ‘removed’ and sometimes I can actually read the words people write. I’m always reading from my Mander account, why the disparity? I can read b*t.ch in your post but I often come across removeds
If a lemmy.ml user types ‘bitch’ in a comment it will actually get replaced with ‘removed’. They just won’t notice it until they check their own comments. That might be the reason why you see ‘removed’ even though your instance doesn’t have an active slur filter.
What about the edge case where someone actually says removed? Like the actual verb, to remove, but italicized and in the past tense. Someone could then infer incorrectly that you’re saying a slur word instead of the verb to take away.
This is basically why lemmy is a hassle. One shit gets blocked, you move and register then you learn these guys are alt-right or peddle child porn or some other bullshit and then you have to register again and again. It’s confusing and quite annoying.
You should probably add in a step where you stop to consider why there is a correlation between an instance refusing to block stuff and it’s admins being scumbags. If the entire Fediverse divides itself into people who disagree with your position on what should and shouldn’t be blocked and people who agree with your position but also have a bunch of awful beliefs you can’t support… Maybe you’re just fucking wrong on this one?
You realize i have no idea what the community is about, especially considering that I’m migrating from reddit. For me, and many others like me, lemmy is a great unknown where i register to everything or the instances i find out through a quick google search or reddit recommendation…
…only to use it for a few days and realize that i may have made a terrible mistake. Lemmy.world sounded to me like the important one to have - and then they make a carpet ban without considering the community. I don’t really care about piracy that much, but I agree on principle and find it mindblowing that a behemoth like reddit would have no issue with it, yet Lemmy.world trying to get as many reddit refugees shows that they will stop all discourse on a topic for fear of it spiralling. This shows that a big instance such as Lemmy.world is simply not ready for a large number of users.
I deleted lemmy.world. I left a comment for admins that will get me banned anyway having called them spineless. You are probably more versed in lemmy-verse than I (and probably many other new users) are, but understand that not everyone finds it easy. If I now have to keep migrating i will probably just delete lemmy completely.
They only have to keep migrating because every time they join a new instance they either don’t agree with the admin’s approach to blocking content or they do but those admins tolerate intolerable content.
Presumably they’re leaving Reddit for a similar reason and will continue to have the exact same issue across any social media platforms until they find a way to resolve that issue. Either by accepting that seeking a highly permissive blocking policy will put them in the company of scumbags, or reassess whether they’re right about how relaxed they want the moderation of the spaces they inhabit to be.
Personally my take away in those circumstances would be, “hmm, seems like only scumbags share these beliefs with me. I’d better look much more carefully at those beliefs…” but we all need to choose our own paths…
My comment has nothing to do with how much you know about Lemmy.
Your claim is that you keep leaving spaces that have blocking policies you disagree with to find spaces that have blocking policies you agree with but are unhappy to keep finding that those spaces also support awful things.
My perspective is that maybe it’s not bad luck, maybe there’s just a correlation between not wanting to block stuff and being full of awful stuff. So rather then keep endlessly searching for somewhere that doesn’t believe in blocking things but somehow isn’t full of awful things, maybe you should reassess your position on things being blocked.
Anyone who thought that a decentralized option (Lemmy or anything else) would ever have a serious chance at replacing a centralized option (such as Reddit) was always huffing ungodly amounts of copium. Stuff like this where the admins work for free and have very specific hard-ons for what they think they should allow is one of the many reasons it was never going to work.
And I say this as someone who has seriously tried using kbin/Lemmy for the past 2.5 months. I have found plenty of good stuff here, but I think I would have stopped already if LJ didn’t release sync, which has so far been the only thing that has made Lemmy bearable to use.
Some of the problems here keep me from fully embracing lemmy, but its a hard question. Some communities that I participate have no intentions of moving from Reddit, some had to move from Reddit and some have found new homes, either here or elsewhere.
Serious question: what’s been stopping us from making a fully decentralized reddit, or social network in general?
Something that’s completely peer to peer based, where people themselves host the content they interact with, and have the freedom to hide whichever type of content THEY want?
Has it been purely a technical problem? Is there discourse on this concept?
That’s basically Lemmy though? Unfortunately, expecting non-technical people to host their own content and moderate their own experiences is too much work and not worth it or viable for most users. Reddit made it easy, and its user base was still tiny compared to the bigger social media platforms.
Lemmy is not peer to peer, it’s federated, which is a big difference.
Self hosting your content and moderating your own experience could be made super easy and trasparent, in theory, but I understand that actually implanting this kind of UX must not be an easy task. It does seem the only solution for a truly censorship free network tho.
Where does the front end live, who hosts it, who pays for the compute, and what determines the latest version is the truest version
where does the data sit. Posts, media, content, and how does this get referenced properly in a safe way.
What’s funny is truely distributed compute is totally possible today, thanks to a lot of work done in the blockchain community. Notice I said blockchain and not crypto, we don’t want the bullshit associated with that (coins, nfts etc). What we want is distributed compute and storage that can be read in a way that provides the same function as Reddit etc. Coupled with a good client experience like sync.
The biggest problem with that though is that blockchain that is truely distributed is slow by nature, because each block of data is distributed and validated to all nodes that host to keep consistency. And the larger a site becomes, the more data there is to store, and the more resource intensive verification becomes so therefore the nodes slowly gain a higher set of requirements.
So the middle ground is something like Lemmy. Where you can run your own instance, that talks to a wider federated network of instances where no one single entity can control the content.
In tech, a lot of the above is explained by a concept called CAP theorem. It’s a really interesting problem that has only really been solved by a few vendors (google spanner is a good one) but even then it doesn’t cover the distributed part.
I’m on sync, does it show? I mean, i already left (or at least think i have) lemmy.world. I’ll probably give lemmy a try, add few more instances internet recommends and really try to use it. If stuff like this continues, I’ll probably just delete sync and forget about lemmy completely.
I’ve gotta hop as well; I’m trying to find the biggest/most mainstream instance that hasn’t blocked or defederated from the piracy communities. Will have to check this list and find one when I get a chance.
One would think the devs would dedicate some time to fix this particular failing of Lemmy, because “download the entire internet of a site because one (1) user posts in one (1) community in one (1) server” is just ridiculous from a lot of standpoints, both technical and legal.
That’s a real bummer although fully understandable. I will always support lemmy.world.
I don’t get how people are this mad when you can literally always selfhost and have the experience you want to have. It’s not like they’re trying to censor everything like beehaw did. It’s protecting the instance from any legal consequences that is very real.
Unless those communities were sharing links to pirated content. If it was just talk about piracy and piracy news then I don’t think that’s a good reason to defederate.
Illegal in which country? Copyright infringement isn’t illegal in my country for example, except for severe cases where you’re profiting off of it. If we have to cater to all countries’ laws we might as well ban music as well since it’s illegal in Afghanistan.
The catch is it is illegal in the USA. The laws of the USA do not stop at their borders and they have successfully prosecuted people abroad for violating US law.
Im not sure the admins need to fear Afghanistan but the US courts will absolutely pursue claims.
I’m assuming Germany. As I understand, lemmy.world’s admin is Dutch, the servers are located in Finland and they are leased from a German company. So if piracy is illegal in any of these countries, they could get into trouble. From what I know, Germany is quite strict, so I’m guessing that is the concern.
There are many different laws with different countries. Don’t forget that most (if not all) Fediverse instances are run by people in their free time with donations that just cover server costs. They aren’t LLCs so there is always the concern about legal issues. Not sure if that is their motivation but could be part of it.
It was inevitable and it’s not their fault. Because of how the Fediverse works it means they’re storing all content from those communities on their servers too. This means they’re storing piracy content and can be subject to a takedown.
We knew larger instances would defederate from piracy communities at some point, don’t take it out on the admins.
The communities discuss piracy, not host the content. They are two different things.
The user that requested it was a troll account create dhours before. The same user then went on to create a transphobic community and post hate. Not the sort of person the admins should be knee jerking to.
The Pirate Bay also doesn’t host content, just links to torrents. Why has it been taken down then several times already?
When you directly link pirated content it becomes a liability. Doesn’t matter if the actual content is on your own server or hosted with a third party.
Yeah. Thankfully there’s an industrious community of innovative collaborators out there to keep those corners of the Internet thriving and findeable.
I make a lot of noise about how irritated I am at anti-piracy measures in my paid streaming services, but it’s not because I think they’re going to actually stop any piracy. It’s because they’re charging me an extra $1.00 per month for their stupid useless anti-piracy measures.
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