deleted,

Windows is slowly transitioning from a paid and solid OS to freemuim spyware bloated dumb OS.

GrayBoltWolf,

Slowly? This crap has been going on for years.

deleted,

I don’t recall such issues with Win98 or XP

BestBouclettes,

It started with Windows 8

bingbong,

Ready to feel old, that was 11 years ago^oo^oo^o

ignotum,

Ah maan, why’d you have to tell me that, it still feels like it came out just 3-4 years ago tops

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

It started with Windows 8

Win8 wasn’t freemium. Win10 was.

BestBouclettes,

True but it’s when Microsoft started to implement apps and such for tablets and hybrid laptops along with office 365.

ogeist,

Dude, that was 22 years ago… I also remember Prince of Persia as if it were yesterday

Resol, (edited )
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I miss Windows Vista.

The arrow pointing downwards is about to be absolutely destroyed today. Edit: it turns out that it didn’t.

PopOfAfrica,

Vistas problem was that it was ahead of its time

vinniep,

I sort of agree with you, but not in the way I think you meant it.

Vista’s problem was that it’s hardware requirements were too high for it’s time. Operating systems have very long project development lifecycle and at a point early on they did a forward looking estimate of where the PC market would be by the time Vista released, and they overshot. When it was almost ready to release it to the world Microsoft put out the initial minimum and recommended specs and PC sellers (Dell, HP, Gateway) lobbied them to lower the numbers; the cost of a PC that met the recommended specs was just too high for the existing PC market and it would kill their sales numbers if they started selling PCs that met those figures. Microsoft complied and lowered the specs, but didn’t actually change the operating system in any meaningful way - they just changed a few numbers on a piece of paper and added some configurations that let you disable some of the more hardware intensive bits. The result was that most Vista users were running it on hardware that wasn’t actually able to run it properly, which lead to horrible user experiences. Anyone that bought a high end PC or built one themselves and ran Vista on that, however, seemed quite happy with the operating system.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I both agree and disagree with that statement.

Windows finally got animations and transparency when Mac OS has beaten it by 6 years. Truly an oomph moment.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Windows finally got animations and transparency when Mac OS has beaten it by 6 years. Truly an oomph moment.

The actual technological advancement of Vista was userspace graphics drivers.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Also correct.

Buddahriffic,

Yeah, XP did that with most of the drivers other than graphics, which lead to a reduction in BSOD crashes (because if a user thread crashes, the OS just kills it and continues on, but an unhandled kernel error will crash the entire OS to a generic “turn the screen blue, report and error, and log it, if possible”).

Vista further improved this by moving most of the graphics driver code out of kernel land.

AnAngryAlpaca,

Blasphemy! Windows XP is the only King!

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t really like XP’s design anymore. I didn’t like it back then either.

Poem_for_your_sprog,

I had no problems with Vista. I also built a new PC for it though.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Very similar story here: I bought a new computer that shipped with Vista.

I got horrendously tired of that Pentium 4 thing.

Zeth0s, (edited )

I used to dual boot linux with windows Vista on an old laptop. I had only installed there the first assassin’s creed and Rome total war. Nothing else, never really connected to internet. After 1 year of not using it a part than few total war sessions, vista was so slow that was unusable. It spontaneously became slow for no reason. I completely removed it, left only linux, and that laptop survived 7 years of intensive use, and was still working 10 years later (just too old).

Vista was a scam

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Good for you, I’m never gonna get convinced.

AnAngryAlpaca,

Because at this time the internet was still slow, not always on and optional on most computers, and Microsoft did not know if and how they should integrate the internet into the OS. The only thing they had at the time was some link to MSN on the desktop, and activeX (???) Where you could display websites on your desktop or within your program, but without the Browser controlls.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Windows 2000 🫶

csfirecracker,

Isn’t a process happening gradually over years “slowly”?

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

Would that not be slowly? What would you call slowly in this context?

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Decades.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

That’s generally what “slowly” means, yes.

asexualchangeling,

Yeah slowly, it started years ago but it’s been getting worse every version, slowly

Fast would be if windows 8 had ads and non uninstallable internet exploder etc

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah slowly, it started years ago but it’s been getting worse every version, slowly

The freemium model was launched and completed with Win10.

tofubl,

If only every Windows install came with an internet exploder! We wouldn’t have to read Elon Musk X fluff pieces on the news ever single day. And privacy concerns… What privacy concerns?

frippa,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

Windows 8(.1) was still utter trash, I actually "down"graded to windows 7 at the time and it was a bliss.

(it wasn’t the non-stop-ads kind of trash, but the UI suited a tablet more than a desk/laptop)

asexualchangeling,

Yeaaaaaah, I don’t know what Microsoft were thinking trying to force a unified UI on everyone… It didn’t work

FakinUpCountryDegen,

just create a “fuckyoaccount” over at protonmail and log in.

I was an early adherent to unique passwords for every login. Now I’m doing a unique email as well. Works a treat, and fucks up their marketing too which warms my heart.

JudahBenHur,

please dont abuse protonmail.

abuse mailfence

madcaesar,

Just make a throwaway outlook account to cost them server cost and sign it up for every spam you can find.

JudahBenHur,

beautiful

souma,

Unrelated but what is that start menu?? Mine looks absolutely nothing like that

Steak,

Tell it to suck your dick

columbus,

GNU/Linux

seedd,

Use tiny10.

danafest,

There’s a tool for making bootable windows USB drives called Rufus that gives you options to remove things like requiring a Windows account, TPM requirement for Windows 11, secure boot, etc when you’re cloning the iso to the USB drive.

only0218,

Still bugging people about to connect an account

MacDangus, (edited )

Oh wow! I’ve used Rufus a handful of times to make bootable windows USB drives and I never knew this

yournamehere,

anyone want bet when this is going to end? i cant remember any release after xp that not had users cry about shit M$ did. winME…epic…so many sad customers. and while win7 kinda worked ok like a cheap toy you bought it was a telemetry desaster …oh, and with IE and M$paint that were already shit in winXP. so my questions is: how many generations does it take until ppl stop falling for their crap? i once read animals need like 3 errors to change behavious in a test with electric shocks on two of three exits of a cage. three. that should have stopped most animals to use windows after 98, xp and 7. so if you use win8 or win10 or later…i better stop here

Thorny_Insight,

I have a Win7 on my PC which I only use for gaming but Steam is telling me it’ll stop working on Win7 in about 80 days or so. I installed Win7 on it for a reason but soon it’ll be my first ever computer running Linux.

vorber,

This is the way

mindlight,

I’m just curious… You are ok with not installing any security updates for months (or even years)?

Thorny_Insight,

I guess so. I don’t really think about that. As long as stuff works on my end I don’t worry about updating it. I’d be happy if I could just install the security updates because updating the OS generally just breaks stuff and slows things down.

Amends1782,

Highly rexommed Mint Cinammon or Pop!_os

Malfeasant,

I suggest Manjaro. Arch made easy.

Bootheal0179,

I have enjoyed manjaro. My sons first laptop ran manjaro with WINE for his gaming. It never gave him too many problems

HW07,

Use EndeavourOS if you want easy Arch, Manjaro is kinda bad.

But really if you want an easy system, go with Mint or Fedora. Arch isn’t designed for ease nor first-timers.

olafurp,

I suggest Kubuntu, great ui, solid base, niche problems can be googled away

Honytawk,

Why don’t you just turn those notifications off?

tenforums.com/…/137645-turn-off-get-even-more-out…

Suavevillain,
@Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

Windows 10 pushed me into finally jumping into Linux a few years ago. I’ve been happy ever since it feels good to change what you don’t like about a system.

shea,

which distro did you end up on? I started 2 weeks ago with Arch (bad first choice, but i learned a lot), moved to Ubuntu (seemed way too bloated and hard to customize), then PopOS (worse than Ubuntu), and now I’m moving from Manjaro back to Arch. I think that’s where I’m gonna stay now that i know how to fix it up and use it.

The only thing i miss from Windows is Adobe, everything else is so much better on Linux. I love how i can customize literally anything and everything, and if i need something specific i can just make it

averyfalken,

I personally landed on mint in its cinnamon flavor. It loosk great, is customizable l, click of a button to get nvidia card working and works just the way I want

lastrogue,

I’m not suavevillain, but I recently switched to PopOS after a love hate relationship with Windows. I would leave Windows, then come crawling back for one reason or another, this stint is the longest I’ve had staying away from it.

I personally like PopOS. But for a less bloated environment and easy to spin up system, you could look at Linux Mint (linuxmint.com).

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

I started 2 weeks ago with Arch (bad first choice, but i learned a lot), moved to Ubuntu (seemed way too bloated and hard to customize), then PopOS (worse than Ubuntu), and now I’m moving from Manjaro back to Arch.

Sincerely, check out Fedora/KDE. It just works, and it’s backed well.

Suavevillain,
@Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

I started at Elementary OS which I just thought looked cool. Then I lived in Manjaro but had some issues. So I finally jumped to EndeavourOS, It has been smooth and a great experience. Yeah for me I have to use Windows for my Elgato Capture card which is annoying.

nfsu2,
@nfsu2@feddit.cl avatar

I think you need to look a linjx distro for you

Kit,

I’ve never seen a pop-up like this on Windows and I work in IT for a living. I don’t do anything special with my personal OS install so idk what the difference is.

funchords,
@funchords@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This appeared this week on our home Windows 10 machine as well for the one account that does not use a Microsoft account. It’s a new behavior.

Honytawk,

It only happens on Windows Home versions, it does not happen on Pro versions which you are probably using.

You can still just turn the notification off in the home version:

tenforums.com/…/137645-turn-off-get-even-more-out…

Draedron,

Starting to like these posts. They help me block the linux bros to clean up my feed

Cethin,

You might as well block all the FOSS bros. Just stop using FOSS.

(FYI Lemmy is FOSS. The fact that people trying to get away from corporate greed also want to get away from other corporate greed seems like the expectation, not the exception.)

Honytawk,

You can hate one FOSS implementation without hating the concept.

Honestly, the worst thing about Linux is the community of entitled elitists snobs that whine about anything that isn’t Linux.

At one point I was tempted to install a distro on my home machine to expand my technological knowledge. But if it turns me into one of those fuckers, then I rather keep my social life. Doesn’t matter if Linux is a divinely perfect OS or not.

Cethin,

“I don’t like it because it’s popular!” Great argument. I’m sure you’re a very reasonable person.

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