In-N-Out will bar employees in five states from wearing masks unless they have a doctor’s note, according to internal company emails leaked on social media last week.
I was so excited to try it as an east coaster when I got out west. It’s nothing special. Cheaper than 5 guys but not as good, and I don’t consider 5 guys all that great to begin with. Better than McDonald’s or Burger King but not by much.
Love the In N Out double double, it's tastier, and cheaper than McDonalds, but I won't be going back to In N Out again, as forcing employees to be less comfortable and less safe in their working environment, one which necessitates them dealing literally face to face with a mostly uncaring unsafe unhealthy public is the line I draw in the sand. I still choose to wear my mask in public places like retail stores, because COVID is still very real. Everyone should be able to make their own choices, and stripping this right from an employee is not something I want to support with my patronage.
This is incredibly stupid, but how difficult would it be to get a doctors note? I’m sure my doctor would write a note “Frog is going to wear a mask when they feel it appropriate.” Done, ya?
Yea… healthcare without insurance can cost a lot of money if there’s an actual issue. It’s not going to cost anyone hundreds of dollars to go into a walk in clinic and tell the doctor “I work at a stupid place that requires me to have a doctors note to have a mask.”
That’s going to be like $25-$50 if there’s even a charge. I didn’t see anywhere that it said what kind of doctor (unless I missed it). They can do the same thing that the anti-vaxers in FL did, get a note from a chiropractor.
My son had to go to a clinic and saw a Nurse Practitioner, this was about 12 years ago. He needed a prescription for asthma medicine and it wound up costing $500 and then it got reduced to $350 when I called and said that I couldn’t pay that all at once but I could make payments. I thought a urgent clinic and nurse practitioner would be much cheaper, but it was a rural area and there wasn’t a choice. The nurse only talked to him and there was no testing or labs done.
Now we have some “minute clinics” if someone is lucky enough to live near where that is offered, and then there is telehealth that might be cheaper.
“Requiring a doctor’s note is also a burden in terms of time and money. Many people don’t have a primary care physician or one who is readily available,” Stone wrote in a column for Forbes this week. “And requiring proof of a disability might be considered a violation of the Americans with Disability Act, depending on how one interprets masking as a request for accommodation.”
it’s a small burden in terms of time and money, yet I won’t dispute that even a small burden is still a burden.
My understanding is that the capitalist business owners continually make the complaint “no one wants to work anymore.” If they’re all making that same complaint, it seems that if I no longer wanted to work for In-N-Out anymore, there’s likely high demand for workers at every other fast food place.
I’ve never been to an In-N-Out but I can’t imagine too many of their employees that have a desire to continue to wear a mask are going to be in conflict with their unwavering desire to work for In-N-out, they’ll just go work somewhere else.
This implies there are 1) similar employers 2) in a similar location, and 3) that are looking for workers, which isn't a guarantee.
And even if there was, that puts the burden of looking for a new job on the workers. Why should it be their responsibility? We don't have to get to this part of the conversation in the first place: In N Out shouldn't be banning masks in the first place, regardless of what contingencies are available or unavailable to their employees.
I think society at large, and especially the capitalists in charge and those sucking on their boots, made it crystal clear during covid (not that there were huge amounts of doubt before) that they don't give a shit about old and vulnerable people dying, it's just fast tracked "survival of the fittest" (aka eugenics) in their minds.
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