Peppycito,

Jesus. We’ll never hear the end of it from the right wing wackos. They’ll use this as justification for starting up the Nazi Youth

Catoblepas,

Not like they weren’t going to do it anyway. They’ll always use LGBT+ people and women existing and wanting to be full members of society as justification for whatever they pull.

stembolts,

O no, they changed the name of an organization I was never a part of and know nothing about.

I will now complain to every white stranger I come across.

PoV of white bald guy, they always think I’m on their team unless I’m dressed “flowery”. Then they just assume I’m gay and don’t talk to me. If I’m wearing camo tho? Best friend.

deegeese,

Not very inclusive when atheist kids and gay troop leaders still told to GTFO.

ThePantser,
@ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

Went to my son’s summer bsa camp, there were many gay leaders and coordinators.

PrinceWith999Enemies,

The article addresses this - they’re admitting gay troop leaders and scouts, as well as girls. The article doesn’t mention anything on the atheist front, but as a member of team rainbow who went through scouting in the 70s and 80s, these are massive changes and I’d honestly be surprised if the org went to court over atheism.

deegeese,

IIRC they’ve previously fought in court for the right to exclude atheists.

No recent court cases because private organizations are allowed to discriminate.

PrinceWith999Enemies,

They did the same for LGBT until recently.

Being a private organization does not grant you an unlimited right to discriminate, no matter how much the right likes to pretend it does. That’s why anti-discrimination laws exist. There’s loopholes orgs have tried to use, and protections vary by state, but just being a “private organization” doesn’t mean “do whatever prejudicial thing you want.”

Like I said, I don’t see this current iteration of the org fighting atheists in court.

Hello_there,

All a kid has to do is say ' I believe in a higher power's and that's that. Doesn't even have to lie if he means 'newtons third laws' as the power

deegeese,

We should not be encouraging kids to lie in order to join an organization dedicated to building moral character.

The lesson is that moral character comes from within and not from authority figures.

brbposting,

Of course, we should never encourage kids to lie.

Now when it comes to leveraging the power of creative reasoning, flexibility of interpretation, and nuance of language - that’s an advanced rhetoric merit badge right there.

Semantic gymnastics, like moral character, comes from within ✨

Neato,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

My higher power is the fucking sun: Sol. He’s the highest power any of y’all gonna see.

Which is also why I never made it past Star Scout: why advance past the best?

Evilcoleslaw,

You seen Raised by Wolves? Lol

Neato,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Hah, indeed! I miss that show. It was so intensely weird, Necromancer design was so creepy and awesome.

rudyharrelson,
rudyharrelson avatar

You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci.

Viking_Hippie,

In Mafia Sicily, Joe Pesci pray to you

  • Yakov Smirnoff’s less popular “Angelo Limoncello” character
ShepherdPie,

Does “5kW” count as higher power?

awesomesauce309,

Maybe if you take it as written but it will always be enforced unequally. In my rural ass troop there was a very heavy christian implication from scout leaders, and my parents. They didn’t end up forcing me to say it, but it was a very uncomfortable day of adults I was supposed to be able to trust repeatedly pressuring me to publicly announce my belief and helplessness in the face of a fairy tale. Not the only day I was religiously pressured either.

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