Confederate memorial to be removed in coming days from Arlington National Cemetery

reverendsteveii, 5 months ago

dope. arlington is for people who died defending america, not for people who died trying to destroy it. racist traitors don’t get consolation prizes, they should’ve been hanged for the traitors they were.

PeckerBrown, 5 months ago

Good. Fuck racist pricks, fuck the GOP, and fuuuuuuucccckkkk Trump.

derf82, 5 months ago

The decision ignores a recent demand from more than 40 Republican congressmen that the Pentagon suspend efforts to dismantle and remove the monument from Arlington cemetery.

The “party of Lincoln” everyone. /s

What awful humans Republicans are

Ultraviolet, 5 months ago

I thought they didn’t like participation trophies.

pan_troglodytes, 5 months ago

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GlitzyArmrest, 5 months ago

Does removing a monument also erase history books somehow?

conquer4, 5 months ago

No, just republicans erase books currently

Potatos_are_not_friends, 5 months ago

Lol we don’t reward losers

Machinist3359, 5 months ago

Simply replace it with a memorial for the enslaved folks these losers fought to subjugate. Let the Confederate legacy be lost to time and honor the people who persevered through unimaginable evils.

Ultraviolet, 5 months ago

Most of the Confederate monuments were put up by the KKK in the early 20th century as an intimidation tactic.

derf82, 5 months ago

Honoring racist pieces of shit just makes more people racist pieces of shit.

callouscomic, 5 months ago

Books and museums about the Civil War literally still exist.

Catoblepas, 5 months ago

Where are all the monuments to Hitler in Germany?

DannyMac, 5 months ago

Sadly, there’s probably a huge overlap between the people for keeping that monument and people that wouldn’t be opposed to installing Nazi monuments

FlyingSquid, 5 months ago

Fair enough- when are they going to put up the memorial to Osama Bin Laden in Times Square?

be_excellent_to_each_other, 5 months ago

The folks itching to repeat it are the same folks who have hooked their "heritage" on a traitorous nation that lasted less time than some of my underwear and socks.

I don't think removing these monuments to traitors from US soil is going to make much of a difference to them.

Also - monuments aren't history books, and the folks trying to get sensitive events out of history books are also the same group of people trying to keep the monuments to traitors in place.

Tremble, 5 months ago

This. I grew up in Virginia with folks talking about how the civil war was about states rights and not about slavery.

They use all kinds of circular and backwards thinking to somehow suggest that the confederates were heroes.

Smelt all the confederate statues to make new statues that commemorate all the people who fought against these racist southern bigots.

Take your southern heritage and shove back up your ass where it came from in the first place.

be_excellent_to_each_other, 5 months ago

This. I grew up in Virginia with folks talking about how the civil war was about states rights and not about slavery.

Tremble, 5 months ago

I used to believe it, and have made the argument more than once as a young person growing up.

be_excellent_to_each_other, 5 months ago

Grew up in a similar bubble, I get it.

FlyingSquid, 5 months ago

How is a monument put up in 1914 a trace of history?

Unless you mean the history of racists who praised the Confederacy but were never a part of it.

GiddyGap, 5 months ago

We don’t want to celebrate wrongdoers with memorials.

There’s a reason why you don’t see statues of Hitler in Germany. That doesn’t mean he’s not part of their history or that they are not trying to learn from the mistakes.

yOya, 5 months ago (edited 5 months ago)

It’s always a good day when a confederate monument gets the Sherman treatment. The tragedy is that there are any left at all.

AbouBenAdhem, 5 months ago (edited 5 months ago)

The statue, unveiled in 1914, features a bronze woman, crowned with olive leaves, standing on a 32-foot pedestal, and was designed to represent the American South. According to Arlington, the woman holds a laurel wreath, a plow stock and a pruning hook, with a Biblical inscription at her feet that says: “They have beat their swords into plough-shares and their spears into pruning hooks.”

I dunno, it sounds like the old Roman war memorials depicting their defeated enemies submitting to peace.

Edit: I just read the Wikipedia article describing the monument’s design and history. The sculptor was actually working in Rome, so the similarity to Roman monuments may not be accidental. But he was also using the monument to imply that Black slaves supported the Confederate cause, so the memorial’s removal is clearly appropriate.

be_excellent_to_each_other, 5 months ago

Holy selective quotation, Batman!

nyahlathotep, 5 months ago

That does sound more like a monument to their defeat than to the confederacy itself

be_excellent_to_each_other, 5 months ago

A shame he stopped where he did. I'm sure that's a coincidence.

Some of the figures also on the statue include a Black woman depicted as “Mammy” holding what is said to be the child of a white officer, and an enslaved man following his owner to war.

nyahlathotep, 5 months ago

Yeah, ok, fuck that. Tear the fucker down

Altofaltception, 5 months ago

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Stern, 5 months ago

I dunno how many Al Qaeda members are buried in Arlington Cemetery. Should prob look that up.

Altofaltception, 5 months ago

Well there is a precedent where they buried enemy combatants in Arlington.

Catoblepas, 5 months ago

Do the next sentence too:

Some of the figures also on the statue include a Black woman depicted as “Mammy” holding what is said to be the child of a white officer, and an enslaved man following his owner to war.

NoSpiritAnimal, 5 months ago

Yeah if we had treated them the way Rome treated it’s conquests or if they had actually beaten their swords into plough shares this might be true.

Back in reality their great-grandchildren are trying to bring about civil war 2.

So no, this is a monument to an imaginary peace held by traitors that should be melted down into a monument to all the slaves who were forced to fight against their own freedom.

Socsa, 5 months ago

The whole “lost cause” movement is about making it seem as if the Confederates were the “ethical” side, even though they lost. They symbology of the statue is heavily wrapped up in this concept - that even though the Confederacy was defeated, it was just and noble. Which, of course, implies that it would be noble to try again one day.

Whiskeyomega, 5 months ago

Whats Matthew Perry Got to do with the price of fish ? Oh crappy website cant be scraped for correct article info and instead gets info on Matthew Perry if you dont edit it.

WeDoTheWeirdStuff, 5 months ago

They are replacing the statue with a tribute to Matthew Perry

Semi-Hemi-Demigod, 5 months ago

Friends ran for ten years. The CSA existed for four years. Technically Chandler is a bigger part of US history.

IHeartBadCode, 5 months ago

FlyingSquid, 5 months ago

I like telling those “my heritage” people that the Obama administration lasted three more years than the Confederacy, making Obama a far greater part of their heritage.

dumdum666, 5 months ago

That’s a well known kbin bug - sometimes random images are selected (even porn)

downpunxx, 5 months ago

was matthew perry a secret secessionist

IHeartBadCode, 5 months ago

That's how we can tell who is on Kbin and who is on Lemmy here without having to click on their profile or hover over their name. Kbin has a caching bug that crops up every now and then and puts an "interesting" picture on a random story. There was once this news story that had some half naked Asian lady as the thumbnail. The confusion in the comments was glorious.

cbarrick, 5 months ago

There’s a Confederate memorial in the National Cemetery?

What the actual fuck! They were literally the enemy of the United States.

DemBoSain, 5 months ago

Plus, Arlington was taken from Robert E. Lee specifically to become the National Cemetery.

derf82, 5 months ago

It was a deliberate “fuck you” to the confederacy. They literally said they wanted to bury the soldiers on the land of the man that killed them. Having a Confederate memorial is purely disrespectful. But they put it in the early 20th century where they started that Lost Cause BS while at the same time justifying Jim Crow.

PugJesus, 5 months ago

Good fucking riddance.

GlitzyArmrest, 5 months ago

Traitors don’t deserve monuments, especially not in Arlington National Cemetery.