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  • ryannathans,

    And consider you only have a chance to get pregnant if it happens during or before ovulation

    Rapidcreek,

    Roughly one rape occurs in the United States every two minutes. About 55 rapes a day resulting in pregnancy. So there are likely upwards of 200 rapes a day total. Just in Texas.

    fidodo,

    Another horrifying statistics is that 1 in 6 women are raped in their lifetime.

    maness300,

    Jesus christ.

    I had no idea it was that bad.

    stoly,

    Remember that there are more than 350,000,000 people in the US. That’s a lot of people doing a lot of things, so you’re going to see numbers like that.

    It’s also worth nothing that the crime rate in the US continues to drop each year even though the media makes it seem like it’s more dangerous out there.

    fidodo,

    To put it in perspective, 1 in 6 women are raped in their life, so the problem is actually horrifyingly bad.

    stoly,

    And not just here. Something like 3/4 of children in India are victims of sexual assault. This is really a world-wide problem that has always been there and only relatively recently are people more largely paying attention and thinking it is wrong.

    SuddenDownpour,

    Why was this downvoted?

    Angry_Maple,
    @Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works avatar

    The wording kind of implies that it’s only recently that people started seeing rape as a bad thing. I would argue otherwise.

    I think that the people who were victims of it over the past centuries probably already thought it was a bad thing, along with anyone who cared about them. It’s not a new revelation. People have been trying to spread awareness about this happening for multiple generations.

    It’s an extremely low moral bar, to be honest. Some actions are indefensible and inexcusable. Anyone who had even half of a heart would have still cared about this happening over a hundred years ago.

    It’s caring about your mother/sister/daughter/friend/teacher/nurse/mechanic/niece/neighbour/cousin/welder/artist/etc. If you care at all about any of them, this should have always been important to you. It’s wanting people to not suffer.

    It would be like saying that people only recently started caring when someone murders innocent people. It’s always been terrible, and the offenders have always been terrible.

    SuddenDownpour,

    The wording kind of implies that it’s only recently that people started seeing rape as a bad thing

    I mean, it’s true. In most countries of the world, marital rape was both tolerated and legal 100 years ago.

    It’s always been terrible, and the offenders have always been terrible.

    The comment above doesn’t imply otherwise though. You may argue that most people in the past had shit ethical opinions without agreeing with those opinions.

    Angry_Maple, (edited )
    @Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works avatar

    People might have not collectively cared, specifically and especially the people who likely didn’t see half of the population as human.

    The victims have always cared, was my initial main point. To claim otherwise would be to also deny the sentience of those people.

    Idk if you can see it on your instance/browser, but I didn’t vote on the comment.

    Added: I agree that people in general have had some level of shitty ethics though, in one way or another. Especially historically. I didn’t see it was you asking either, sorry about that lol.

    SuddenDownpour,

    Why do you think it was downvoted then? You also didn’t answer their question lol.

    I don’t know, I asked because I don’t see any good reason worth downvoting. Thanks for replying tho.

    Angry_Maple,
    @Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Did you see the edit? It might have taken a bit to update the change. I noticed and added a bit at the end after removing that part lol

    Thank you for replying to

    stoly,

    marital rape was both tolerated and legal 100 years ago.

    In the US, this argument only started to fall apart in the early 1990s when a big case came into the public light. People argued that legally a husband can’t rape and has marital rights. As I recall, the idiot was still convicted and this was a big shift in public perception.

    stoly,

    People vote with their emotions and not rationally. Someone will put up an article and people will downvote the post because they don’t like what the article is talking about, even though that’s not the fault of the person who posted it.

    Also, reading the responses you got, it does seem that some people took personal offense as if I were saying that nobody cared about this. Obviously people do and always have. Implying that I am arguing that nobody cared is a pretty uncharitable interpretation and may reflect the mental state of the people responding.

    Societies as a whole haven’t really cared, before, and that’s my point–it’s “Old Boys Club” and misogynistic nonsense that finally is being reviewed by more. Humans as a group have over the past 20 years or so started to take this very seriously in a way that didn’t happen before, and is the cause of the various scandals of rape kits not being tested, etc.

    MNByChoice,

    Yeah. We need to do a whole lot to stop the rape. I have no idea what, but something.

    fidodo,

    Looking it up, Texas is moderately above the national, 51 per 100k vs 40.

    Kraven_the_Hunter,

    I’m not going to say that this is just a Texas thing, but I’ve been watching a lot of true crime shows and it has absolutely shocked me how many of them occurred in Texas and Oklahoma.

    stoly,

    Truly some of the worst people in the world occupied those lands over the last 150 year or so and we are seeing the results of that.

    Behaviorbabe,

    I don’t have any friends who haven’t been at least assaulted. Mine happened when I was sleeping in my own goddamn room in my own apartment years ago.

    frickineh,

    Anecdotally, I don’t know a single woman who hasn’t been at least sexually assaulted, so yeah, there’s a lot of it. Many of us wouldn’t be counted in statistics because we never reported it or it was “just” assault (the guy who tried to rape me didn’t succeed because my sister came looking for me, caught him taking my pants off while I was unconscious, and beat him with a shoe until he left, so I always told myself nothing really happened). So yeah, rapists are way more common than we probably think, and they’re out there raping away.

    stoly,

    Me Too showed me that what you are saying is true. It is also how I found out that my sisters and aunt had such experiences in their lives.

    Nachorella,

    Yeah, it sounds like an absurd amount but when I stop and think about the women in my life almost all of them have been sexually assaulted at some point. And that’s just the ones that have felt comfortable enough to tell me about their experiences. It’s fucked up.

    Lennnny,
    @Lennnny@lemmy.world avatar

    I told my husband I was one of the few lucky ones who didn’t have a Me Too story, until he pointed out the time in the club where a man shoved his hand down the back of my pants and tried to grope me and I grabbed his fingers and bent them back until he screamed like a bitch, and the time I was walking alone by the canal and a man chased me and I ran into a business and they had to lock the door to stop him getting in.

    It’s so bad for women that these situations don’t feel like anything to complain about. Because nothing technically happened.

    frickineh,

    Oh yeah, the number of times men have groped me without consent is way higher, to the point that I probably don’t even remember all of them because it happens so often to so many women. You just sort of move on because what else can you do? Well, nearly break their fingers, I guess (I’ve also done that).

    flicker,

    “In 2022, about 442,754 women were raped or sexually assaulted in the U.S.”

    If only 10% of those are rapes resulting in pregnancy, you’re looking at more than 44,000 forced births per year. And yes. In this way, it very much sucks to be a woman. I hope someone, somewhere, who reads these stark numbers stops engaging the toxic people who try and downplay women who don’t want to be alone with you, who act cautious around you, because they’re afraid.

    Facebones,

    And that’s only what’s get reported or whatever - Which alot of victims don’t do.

    PrincessLeiasCat, (edited )

    Apologies if this is not allowed, but if you are a person in Texas who needs access to reproductive healthcare or want to help those who do, here are some resources:

    Resources for Texans seeking access to healthcare:

    aidaccess.org/en/

    teafund.org

    wrrap.org/about-wrrap/

    abortionfunds.org

    If you need help getting an abortion:

    www.plancpills.org

    aidaccess.org

    these sites offer access to abortion pills, even in Texas. Please be safe and be aware of clinics (e.g. Crisis Pregnancy Centers) that give out dangerous misinformation on abortions and pregnancy.

    If you want to give money to some pro-choice charities, try here:

    fundtexaschoice.org - The Dallas-based nonprofit Fund Texas Choice assists Texas residents with lodging and transportation expenses to abortion clinics in and out of state. It also provides information on organizations that can help with funding the procedure.

    www.laslibres.org - Las Libres is a Mexican feminist organization that supports women seeking abortions and control of their own bodies; this now includes those who contact them from the United States.

    teafund.org - Texas Equal Access Fund provides funding to low-income people in the north, east, and Panhandle regions of Texas who can’t afford an abortion. It also offers emotional support through a confidential text line, support group, and virtual clinic companion program.

    janesdueprocess.org - Jane’s Due Process helps young Texans navigate parental-consent laws and confidentially access abortion and birth control. It offers Texas teens and young people free legal support, one-on-one case management, and a text line for those needing information on birth control and family-planning services without parental involvement.

    www.lilithfund.org - The Lilith Fund, an Austin-based nonprofit, provides direct financial assistance to Texans in central and southern regions of the state who need an abortion. It also offers an emotional-support hotline.

    www.theafiyacenter.org - The Afiya Center, or TAC for short, is a reproductive-justice organization in North Texas that provides refuge, education, and other resources to Black women. The center has its own “economic enrichment campaign” focused on funding projects for women of color living with HIV/AIDS (and those at risk). It also supports programs that are providing abortion access in the state.

    thebridgecollective.org - The Bridge Collective serves central Texans by offering transportation to abortion clinics for people within 100 miles of Austin. It also provides free reproductive-health resource kits to those who are within 30 miles of Austin. The kits include Plan B, pregnancy tests, condoms, and information on sexual and reproductive health.

    avowtexas.org - Avow (which was previously NARAL Pro-Choice Texas) fights for abortion rights through community building, education, and political advocacy. The Avow Foundation funds research, public education, organizing, and more to educate Texans on the importance of abortion access.

    More here: 20 Organizations Fighting the Texas Abortion Ban

    Please feel free to copy and share this and to add your own links.

    comador,
    @comador@lemmy.world avatar

    Bravo, hope this helps someone in need!

    some_guy,

    If you need to come to my area (Bay Area) from TX to get an abortion, I will let you crash on my sofa. My GF lives here too; she loves to cook for people. Hope you like Thai food, but she can make pasta if you don’t.

    PrincessLeiasCat,

    You are both beautiful and amazing people. Thank you. <3

    gedaliyah,
    @gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

    Awesome list. Thanks for sharing!

    Rapidcreek,

    Texas saw an estimated 26,313 rape-related pregnancies during the 16 months after the state outlawed all abortions, with no exceptions for survivors of rape or incest, according to a study published Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association,” the Houston Chronicle reports.

    “The authors noted that while some pregnant rape survivors who need abortion care may be able to travel out of state or manage the pregnancy at home with abortion pills, the bans leave many survivors without a viable alternative.”

    Zeon, (edited )

    So there is over 26,000 rapists in Texas alone? I kinda find that hard to believe.

    Edit: As of 2024, Texas had a reported rape rate of 51.1 per 100,000 inhabitants, with a total of 14,824 cases reported. This rate is a reflection of the number of reported rape incidents and not necessarily the number of convictions. worldpopulationreview.com/…/rape-statistics-by-st…

    Additionally, it was noted that in 2020, there was a significant number of rape offenses in Texas, but the clearance rate for these offenses had decreased. In 2020, there were 1,828 arrests for 13,327 reported offenses. This decrease in clearance rate suggests that fewer rape cases were being solved or leading to arrests. politifact.com/…/texas-had-highest-number-rape-of…

    pinkdrunkenelephants,

    In their minds, 26,000 future workers or prison slaves. So for them, it’s all going according to plan.

    Diplomjodler,

    System works as designed. Nobody should for a second think that this is some sort of unintentional side effect.

    Bytemeister,

    Someone in Texas should propose a law that makes rape punishable by life in prison, minimum, and failure to pay child support punishable by chemical castration (it’s reversible). Watch these fuckers go to the mat defending a rapist’s right to get off without major consequences.

    Chocrates,

    The consequences almost don’t matter. Rape is very hard to prosecute often, and women don’t come forward about it because they are not believed and ridiculed. Our country sucks.

    Spacehooks,

    26k more dissidents in 20 years thanks.

    agitatedpotato,

    Bold to assume they’re gonna survive that long, it is Texas after all.

    Welt,

    Nobody else is saying this, so I will. I’m sceptical of this figure. Recognising that spousal rape is rape, it’s very hard to believe this number. “Rape-related” is very vague. It could mean women who have been raped before, who later become pregnant consensually. Pregnancies due to rape are simply not this common.

    RunawayFixer,

    jamanetwork.com/journals/…/2814274

    That’s the original scientific letter that all the other articles are based on. They fully explain their methodology and at first glance, it all seems to check it out. So yes, pregnancies due to rape really are that common, at least in the backward states of the USA.

    Welt,

    Thanks for the evidence, will have a look.

    GilgameshCatBeard,

    We’re on the precipice of rape being legalized in Texas.

    _sideffect,

    This might sound horrible, but what would any lawmaker or politician in Texas (or who supports outlawing abortion) do if they got raped or someone they loved got raped?

    moon,

    Obviously go somewhere else to get an abortion. The law is for the poors.

    gmtom,

    Well of someone they loved got raped it means they were asking for it and therefore cheating on them /are a slut, so they deserve it or something along those lines.

    I_Fart_Glitter,

    There’s a pretty good Black Mirror episode about this.

    Agent641,

    Thats a fuckload of rapes

    SuddenDownpour,

    Especially when you consider those are only the ones that resulted in pregnancies.

    ThatFuckingGorrillaAgain,

    No, I think pretty much anyone would get a sexual health and pregnancy test, at least, after getting f’ing raped!

    zalgotext,

    Sure, maybe. Not every rape will result in pregnancy though, that’s the point. For the to be 26k pregnancies resulting from rapes, there must have been more than 26k rapes. Which is an absolutely ludacris number of rapes. That’s the point being made: >26k rapes is a fucking insane amount of rapes.

    Lennnny,
    @Lennnny@lemmy.world avatar

    Holy shit that’s a horrifying number. And this is just the pregnancies. I have no words other than FUCK TEXAS.

    MataVatnik,
    @MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

    Having visited the place for extended periods of time I can confidently say Texas is a shithole. I don’t know why they think it’s so special.

    Mamertine,

    They think themselves special because

    A) it’s a very large state, nearly as large as Alaska. Originally or was going to become several states, but it being admitted to the union prior to the civil war as a slave state the leaders of the country chose to leave it as one huge state because they wanted to keep the ratio of slave and non slave states equal.

    B) they used to be an independent country (like Hawaii). Nevermind the fact the only reason they asked to join the Union was that the nation of Texas was broke and couldn’t pay their bills.

    C) they’re quite populous, nearly as much so as California.

    Basically, when you’re second best at everything and broke af you get a chip on your shoulder.

    yuriy,
    daemoz,

    Texas is that guy in the giant lifted truck who is insecure about how they look. They are as proud as new Yorkers are about their little slice of crap. but unlike NY who promotes we got the best experiences/opportunities, they value freedoms. Except they REALLY REALLY dont. Ita a huge lie they lie to themselves and everyone else about constantly.

    frezik,

    A lot of states have one major city that dominates everything. Who cares about upstate New York or southern Illinois?

    Texas happens to have three such metropolitan areas, but they act like anyone gives a shit about the rest.

    Waldowal,
    @Waldowal@lemmy.world avatar

    Wait a sec. In the event of rape, I thought God stops the pregnancy. Or, the women’s body magically rejects it because they are not soul mates. Or, whatever other evil, disgusting, nonsense, bullshit these idiots dream up to try and justify torturing women.

    gmtom,

    And an alarming amount of people, including lawmakers beleive something along those line, or “if its legitimate rape, the body has ways of shutting it down”

    So they will think if you got pregnant from it then it wasn’t really rape then was it? Because if it was “real rape” God/ your body would have stopped you from getting pregnant.

    Fedizen,

    I think the old testament prescribes taking some kind of elixir to stop the pregnancy if there’s adultery. As far as morality goes the bible has genocides where killing women and children is demanded.

    Imo rape kids are the intention of these bills. White Christian Nationalists think women have too much control and they want to use the state to enforce their own beliefs in power and control.

    Greyghoster,

    That’s a lot of rapes. Aside from guns do Texans actually care about anything. They obviously don’t care about women other than sex objects.

    Sterile_Technique,
    @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

    They care about size, and relate everything large to their state with shit like “Texas sized!”

    …which 1: tooootally not compensating for anything, and 2: is hilarious because regarding US state size, Texas is #2 by a massive margin, measuring in at about 0.5 Alaskas.

    Malfeasant,

    Yeah but Alaska doesn’t count because hardly anyone lives there…

    Then they bitch about California.

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