TransplantedSconie,

Think of the potential tax wind fall these people could have! I’d knuckle shuffle up some “kids” and rake in the tax money.

TellusChaosovich,

Unfortunately they made embryos children for the purposes of punishments, but let the bill die that would have made them dependents on taxes.

lolcatnip,

What if we treat that bill as a person, too?

TransplantedSconie,

Take it to court! They either have to decide this law is shit, or it forces the state to pay for them.

agitatedpotato,

Well they cant be half children. Theyre either kids or not, Id claim them all and if they audit it, then it FORCES the government to involve themselves and set a precedent. If it’s a life, its certainly dependent on the clinic, claim them. Also if they’re truly considered lives, they are inherently entitled to all the rights the US offers living humans. A state tax bill can’t negate that, only dropping the clasification of being a living being can.

rambaroo,

The history of this country proves that we have no issues with the blatant cognitive dissonance of declaring someone to only be a portion of a person.

agitatedpotato,

And now there’s precedent on how that’s not legal. I still think its a worthwile challenge.

michaelmrose,

Isn’t the fact that the parents are in Alabama the more relevant than where the egg is. If there is a record of who owns the egg on the premises of an Alabama provider wherein it may be seized by the Alabama authorities it may be used to demand of the provider or parents an accounting of the disposition of the egg. If it has been destroyed and the information regarding its destruction is available to the provider in state (which would be normal) they can still be charged. Inability to account for it is suspicious in itself and parents could be held in contempt and forced to disclose.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Shouldn’t they do that with actual children as well? Just to be safe?

echodot,

Children are only important until they are born. After that’s happened they can work down the mines for all they care.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

I figured that their parents might care a wee bit.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Anyone that’s taken by surprise by this never lived in Alabama anyway.

RizzRustbolt,

What kind of monster submerges their child in liquid nitrogen?

ItsAFake,

But you should see their cute little frozen faces!

hansl,

Mine was just delivering pizza to… I. C. Weiner? Aw man…

TwinTusks,
@TwinTusks@bitforged.space avatar

Welcome, to the world of tomorrow!

Soulg,

Shut up, Terry

General_Effort,

Haven’t you heard of a little thing called showmanship?

Zibitee,

They don’t all come back out alive either!

outer_spec,
@outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

im going to eat one

LemmyKnowsBest,

Anybody else clicked on this because the thumbnail looked like a picture of a cheez-it and you were curious what cheez-its have to do with alabama & embryos?

PrawoJazdy,

Triscuit to me.

duffman,

Looked like raw hamburger meat to me.

BigBananaDealer,

if a woman has a period and has had sex, there is a good chance a fertilized egg was probably somewhere around the blood, making every woman in Alabama who has had sex a possible serial killer

milicent_bystandr,

I think you’re a little confused about the normal reproductive cycle.

nutt_goblin,

en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Implantation_(embryology))

Reproduction in humans is not very efficient. Only around 30% of natural conceptions result in successful pregnancies. Of the failed pregnancies around 85% are due to implantation failure.

Seems like it’s extremely normal for a fertilized egg to fail to implant and be flushed out during your next period.

BigBananaDealer,

what do i have wrong

boogetyboo,
@boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

Periods are shedding the lining of the uterus and the unfertilised egg.

boogetyboo,
@boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

What the fuck is going on with the down votes? Did you kids go to school???

boogetyboo,
@boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

Fuck

gapbetweenus,

Fun fact, there is quite more to learn about everything after school. School will provide you with rather abbreviated and often simplified version of scientific conses from around 50 years ago.

Soulg,

Yes we know what a period is, and it’s common for eggs to be flushed out after falling to implant.

BigBananaDealer,

it is impossible that a fertilized egg can shed? i was under the impression that it may sometimes happen

NikkiDimes,

(It happens frequently. Like more often then it doesn’t huehuehue)

General_Effort,

You have referenced forbidden knowledge. You are not supposed to talk about god doing abortions.

angrystego,

I think you just didn’t word it clearly enough. Someone might read it as a woman getting pregnant from sex during period, which is not what you meant.

boogetyboo,
@boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

Mate, are you just so confused with what is happening with the responses here? I’ve literally had an abortion; I’m pro choice. But there’s this random pile on of I’m assuming men, telling us what idiots we are.

IzzyScissor,

If a couple who has a frozen embryo divorces, who pays child support and for how long?

Showroom7561,

What about visitation rights? Alabama has a lot of explaining to do. 🤗🤡

intensely_human,

COUPLE ATTEMPTS TO SMUGGLE CHILDREN ACROSS STATE LINES

More at ten

FryHyde,

Massive child trafficking ring brought down in Alabama. Governor to receive medal for outstanding achievement in law enforcement as 700 arrests are performed statewide.

Treczoks,

If those embryos count as children, wouldn’t it be OK to ask for all kinds of legal benefits for them?

NotMyOldRedditName,

Tax write offs for storage!

WaxedWookie,

Using transit lanes!

Family tax benefits!

Ooh! Divorce and file for child support for dozens of kids!

NotMyOldRedditName,

Adopt thousands of them and then every few days remove one from the freezer or fridge or whatnot and then demand bereavement leave.

SergeantScar,

Carpool lane with 2 vials in the passenger seat?

intensely_human,

It’s the most effective way to challenge the law. Just carry it through to its natural conclusion.

lagomorphlecture,

“Wow I suddenly have 11 kids to care for. I can’t afford to live. Better apply for snap and tanf.”

CeruleanRuin,
@CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world avatar

Lol, you think there are any social programs left after these chucklefucks are through.

fastandcurious,
@fastandcurious@lemmy.world avatar

Dafuq going on ova der?

gedaliyah,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like transporting a minor across state lines

BritishDuffer,

It turns out parents are allowed to take their children over state lines.

intensely_human,

Yeah but frozen?

5too,

I mean, if you thaw them without being ready for them, they die - so yeah, frozen.

WindyRebel,

Let it go. Let it go!

Zink,

Well that’s a potential future news headline that I hadn’t imagined until just now. I can hardly wait to be horrified!

fidodo,

If I were in Alabama I’d race to move out of Alabama

Everythingispenguins,

I don’t live in Alabama and I am moving out of Alabama just in case

stoly,

This is an absolute tragedy but is also very much a leopards ate my face moment.

Do not feel sorry for these people, though. People who can afford these treatments are wealthy and they certainly voted for the sort of politicians that would create this state supreme court.

Buffaloaf,

That’s quite the stretch to assume all of these people are conservatives.

stoly,

Of course not all are but it’s fucking Alabama, the right armpit of the gulf coast.

ExfilBravo,

Yeah IVF isn’t cheap and it isn’t covered buy regular health insurance so its all out of pocket.

RagingRobot,

My insurance covers it

PerpetualPlayer2, (edited )

Currently holding my newborn as I type this. Up until a few months ago, this little human being was a frozen embryo.

Both of my children were IVF babies, and I’m about as left leaning as they come.

Also, we’re not wealthy by any stretch. We ended up participating in a clinical trial that provided free IVF therapy (minus some misc costs).

I absolutely feel sorry for our fellow American citizens who are going through this horror, regardless of their political affiliation. Politicians are dealing in lives and livelihoods as if we average citizens mean nothing to them (spoiler alert, we don’t).

You should look into expanding your worldview.

stoly,

I should? I’m complaining about how people in a state voted in people who would do something as horrid and cruel as this is and I should expand my worldview? Maybe, just maybe, it is possible to look at the accomplishments of a group and judge them based on that. All of this “you should feel sorry for people in Texas” nonsense falls into this same category. Yes, I can feel sorry for individuals who are victim of these sorts of atrocities while still believing that Texas is a shithole state that shouldn’t exist. Alabama is no different.

Further, you take exception with my comment on wealth while admitting that you didn’t pay for it yourself. Seems pretty disingenuous.

Psychodelic,

You should also probably seek help from a licensed clinical professional counselor

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