There is one way to make it stop; atrocities are all they are, there is not an ounce of humanity left, just bomb them into oblivion. Its the only way they will ever stop.
No surrender, no relief, and anyone who takes ‘refugees’ gets the same treatment. Anything less is appeasement, and appeasement is how you get world wars.
I think the problem is that US invested heavily in Israel for many decads so its very difficult to do something that could result in Israel switching alliance
That's part of it - they don't want to lose their investment. The other part is that if they do stop propping up Israel, they know another country like Russia or China will happily fill the void and reap all the benefits of the influence in the region. The US could cut ties and not be involved at all but it's not likely it would change much, unfortunately; Israel would just continue with new backers and the US would be in a worse position.
Not that that justifies the war and all the weapon sales on the US' part, of course. But I think, with that information, it's easy to see why there's some nuance to it, and why the US isn't keen to sever ties or be too harsh a critic.
To who? They’re almost universally hated by any nation around them, they’ve only made it this far with the US government hemorrhaging cash and arms to maintain a foothold.
You have that backwards. AIPAC has invested in US politicians for decades. The money we send there comes right back into our politician’s pockets. Biden received the most at 5 million to his campaigns.
Then there are weapons PACs. Military-Industrial Complex has every establishment politician by their grey, short, and curlies.
Fuck this world. Fuck the USA. Fuck Israel. Fuck this aggression on Palestinian civilians.
Saudi, Jordan and Egypt have been far better than israel. They host tonnes of American bases, are far more controllable and don’t try to bomb Iranian embassies to start World War 3.
There’s your problem, you think the US disapproves of bombing the Iranian embassy. They don’t, they just won’t do it themselves. Bases are one thing, but Israel has, continues, and will provide plausible deniability for some truly disgusting actions.
Israel is trying to escalate their war and involve America. Especially Netanyahu who is looking stay at war as long as possible
By bombing the Iranian embassy and committing other grave war crimes Iran will have to respond. At which point israel calls big brother Joe Biden to “defend them” against Iran. Thus dragging America into World War 3.
“When we took out Soleimani, you know Israel was supposed to do it with us. Two days before the take-out, they said, ‘We can’t do it. We can’t do it.’ I said ‘What?’ ‘We can’t do it,‘” the Republican presidential frontrunner told Fox News.
“Then I had a certain general, who’s great, I said, ‘So General, do we do it ourselves?’ He said, ‘We can, sir, it’s up to you.’ I said, ‘We’ll do it,’” Trump continued.
“But Israel was a part of it. You know, Bibi was a big part of it. And we had everything planned, everything. Because what [Soleimani did] was terrible. What he did to us was terrible. Killed so many of our soldiers. Killed so many people,” he added, using the nickname of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Russia comes to mind. They’d accept Israel if they could benefit from it. Also Bibi get to be a plain old dictator without worrying too much about response from western allies. In exchange Russia get access to lot of western tech.
Israel does not benefit the U.S. in any way. We have NATO nations nearby and even bases in Kuwait. And that’s in addition to all the carriers in the Med. They offer no strategic advantage.
We have no special financial investments with them. We do the same kind of trade we do with any other countries. A relationship with Israel offers us absolutely no financial benefit. None.
Our relationship is a favor to them, motivated mostly by religious mythology about the christian end-times that U.S. politicians are obsessed with. It’s the dumbest of all possible reasons and no one will say it out loud in the news.
We need to defund this shit. And we need to help the victims.
I mean the US could also introduce a peace keeping resolution, but that would require the consent of Israel, ain’t gonna happen. But at least it would be a strong message from the US.
We all know they won’t even do that.
It could introduce a peace enforcement resolution at the security council. It would no doubt pass since everyone else at the table has been calling for a ceasefire for months. It would be a great opportunity to bring the west and China together.
We all know they won’t do that either.
So no, other things would do things. The US executive branch just won’t do them.
I voted for Biden and this whole situation pisses me off. You can’t wait until 33k Palestinians are killed and innocent aid workers are killed to call for a cease fire but still arm Isreal. I’m now a Libertarian. Thanks Biden…
Turn up the pressure, Biden. Don’t just give sweet words to Americans as you send bombs to Israel. You cannot have your genocide and a popular approval rating at the same time.
Suck it up and vote for us. Oh, offer representation? Get fucked asshole. Also if the democrats lose, it’s all your fault for not voting with a big enough smile on your face.
Democrats chose genocide over their approval rating. They believe first past the post voting will keep them safe and sound. What are you gonna do about it? Vote republican?
With a electoral system like Ranked Choice voting, people would feel safe to vote for whomsoever they wish, as their vote would still be counted against the republicans even if their preference didn’t win.
Just search for videos on First Past the Post voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.
Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.
More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is represented by their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.
Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states?
Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Republicans LOVE first past the post voting. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans want?
Some day we will be able to vote for who best represents our interests. We won’t need to grovel on our knees, begging for representation in government. We won’t need to wait for the Republican party to stop existing.
We can do it right now.
Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.
He just sent to Israel a shipment of 2000lb bombs, which raze entire quarters and are not used by the US itself because they’re “too dangerous for civilians”.
It’s still doing the very same delay and dissemble talkie-talkie for the purposes of not losing the election he has been doing for 3 months.
I have no doubt his “warning” to Netanyahu came with a wink and a nod.
Fuck sanctions. Dispatch a carrier group, turn it to glass, then let the palestinian people fucking breathe, knowing every last one of their oppressors is dead.
But nothing less will work. You’d know this if you’d ever talked to the kapo trash. If they’re breathing, they’re dreaming of murder. There is nothing else left inside them.
Cute semantic reversal. Doesn’t make it anything but nonsense.
I wouldn’t say this about Russians, also attempting a genocide; they’re poor deluded dunbfucks and conscripts who don’t want to be their. For them, you need a couple well timed assassinations, the regime breaks, and the people are potentially free. I’m sure there are individuals who got caught up in it and did unforgivable things, sucks to be them. But I don’t hold this against the Russian people as a whole, because they mostly don’t have good information or the energy to care. Kill the (very centralized) government, stop the killing.
But kapo trash aren’t human anymore. The fact that I recognize this isn’t inhuman, except in the sense that I stared into the abyss. I did talk to a bunch of them. I looked for anything else, I looked so fucking hard, and it’s just not there. Theres nothing else. They have nothing else, they are nothing else, all of them know exactly what this is, and every single one ive spoken to will do anything to keep it going. Even the suggestion that ‘but you could just stop. You could just fucking stop the killing by not killing anymore.’ Gets angry, almost violent, and, when in person, spitting, literally spitting, mad reactions.
Naah, that’s not true. Hamas is blocking every ceasefire with impossible demands. Since forever, not just day one or whatever the number. Quite easy talking without evidence this is. Normally I’d bother producing links and stuff, but when I do you folks go “fake news”, “not to be trusted”. Well, this is good enough obviously.
How is it extremely reasonable? They want full withdrawal from Gaza and pretending like nothing happened, then they get to negotiate who they let go for kidnapped people at a stupid ratio. Terrorist organization wants to not only remain in power but full withdrawal of far more powerful enemy and then even strengthen their ranks by exchanging for hostages they took when causing the whole mess. That’s never going to happen. Hamas is history, one way or another and the sooner they realize that the sooner people stop suffering.
Ceasefire doesn’t work with Hamas. They always use the time to arm more and cause more suffering for all parties involved.
You are right israel should release their 3000+ hostages unconditionally. It’s hard for Hamas to trust them since israel has already broken the previous deal and re-kidnapped many people from the previous swap.
Israel is a giant terrorist organization that needs to be disbanded as fast as possible.
Strange how israel kidnaps those 3000+ Palestinians and imprisons them without any charges. And tortures them while they are kidnapped. You should send them your amazing evidence that you most definitely have so they can be convicted.
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