Is there any real benefit to getting mentally diagnosed?
Title, basically. I know I have issues, but I couldn’t say if it’s depression, ADD, or just general problems. Is the only reason to have a diagnosis so you know what to work on, or are there other benefits such as easier access to therapy?
My question is meant specifically for Canada, but feel free to chip in from other countries. :)
US here: There used to be because then you could get proper medication. Now, unless you have multi-millionaire level doctors, the DEA has scared all the doctors out of treating the illness.
Got anxiety? Here, have some antidepressants. Got PTSD? Here, have some antidepressants. Got ADHD? Here, have some antidepressants.
The antidepressants have CRIPPLING withdrawal effects and will make you feel like a dog on a leash. Forget a pill? Prepare to suffer, and remember that a side effect of the antidepressants is forgetfulness.
You'll still suffer, but they will kinda blunt your mind, so you'll be less vocal about it so other people don't need to be annoyed by you expressing the suffering you are experiencing.
Lose your health insurance? That's your fault. Suffer the intense withdrawals, but please still shut up about your suffering.
If nothing else, certain treatments, prescriptions, programs or whatever are likely to at least sort of require a diagnosis. Exactly how formal that is, and how strong the requirements are, depends on condition, location, institution, laws, all kinds of things.
Knowing what exactly is going is a big thing. I thought I had some form of ADD but it turns out I was just depressed and the ADD symptoms were just a side effect of it. Being diagnosed and on the correct medication was a game changer.
It felt like a huge relief to get names put on things I had been experiencing for most my life. It helped me pull apart a “me” and a “challenge I have.”
Before, it was all “me,” and I had a guilt around why I struggled so much in certain areas where so many didn’t, and why I seemed so hard to help. But with a name to apply to these struggles, now the “me” was the part that had just been trying to cope with challenges many other people didn’t have to worry about.
This is much better for feelings of self-worth. I can reasonably think “well, they too might be acting this way if their brain was kicking up shit like mine tends to do.”
It also helps me understand my history and why I may have done things I did. I believe this more the longer I’m on medication. With a clearer head I start to drop coping mechanisms that no longer serve me, and I have a longer time line to notice what actually works for me - for all areas of life that everyone deals with. I guess… Like, it’s not all just mental chaos now, I can actually pin down cause and effect. Like, I like a regular bed time because I like being able to concentrate the next day. In the past I would have no idea how an irregular sleep schedule might affect me because my ability to concentrate was constantly in flux with no discernable cause.
Of course, the help you get is better too once everyone knows what they’re dealing with.
It depends. If you know you have issues, aren’t dealing with or handling them to your satisfaction and want help? Absolutely. Therapy, treatment and proper medication generally require an official diagnosis, not to mention potentially being cheaper when you don’t have to pay for all of it yourself. If you know you have issues, but have also developed effective coping mechanisms on your own and negative effects on your life are overall rare, I think it’s fine to keep going undiagnosed, as long as you’re mindful of your problems and how they affect the people around you.
Couple examples from my own life. I knew I was depressed. My friends knew I was depressed. I thought I was handling it okay, but I really wasn’t. So I got a diagnosis, so I could get medication and therapy, that allowed me to build coping mechanisms to hold it at bay. I’m also fairly sure I’m somewhere on the autism spectrum. Where, exactly, doesn’t matter, since I can manage life and socializing just fine, I simply have to think twice about what I say. And when I’m not sure of myself, I have trusted friends to go to for a second opinion. And then there’s the undiagnosed face blindness. A diagnosis won’t help at all, since there’s to treatment or medication. I had built workarounds without knowing I was doing it, years before I found out face blindness was even a thing
In the end, if you’re unsure, you can’t go wrong with getting a diagnosis. If nothing else, it will at least tell you more about yourself and serve as a guideline for how you manage your issues.
I have this big gaping hole in my leg, is there any real benefit to going to the er or can I just tie a shirt around and just keep it elevated for a few days?
I’m in no way trying to be dismissive or mean here, I’m simply trying to impress the importance of treating your mental health ON PAR with your physical health. There are absolutely real benefits to seeking professional help and getting a medical diagnosis for whatever conditions are troubling you.
You would not be asking this question about a potentially broken leg so why would a potentially broken mind be any different?
A diagnosis is not treatment. OP is asking whether they should go to the ER to ask a doctor whether the hole in their leg is a laceration, abrasion, puncture, or avulsion. And then go home and book a second appointment they could have made anyway.
True but OPs question is a bit different: “Since I was a child, my leg hurts when I turn it to the side. It influences my daily life but I have learned to live around it and found remedies that somewhat help with it. I recently learned that other people’s legs dont hurt that way. Is there a point in getting a diagnosis of why my leg hurts when I already know how to live with it?”
The response is the same: mental health is as important as physical health. But it’s a question about chronic issues.
To me a formal diagnosis gives you access to try medication if you want. Even if you’re not interested or ready for medication, a diagnosis (formal or not) can make it easier to find strategies and tools that work for you. Lots of general productivity advice just don’t work for ND folks, and looking for specialized tips makes a big difference.
To me having and accepting my diagnosis helped me accept me as I am and stop thinking I’ll magically be better next week or next month or next year. I now put systems in place to help me with my weaker points and that’s OK.
Title, basically. I know I have issues, but I couldn’t say if it’s depression, ADD, or just general problems. Is the only reason to have a diagnosis so you know what to work on, or are there other benefits such as easier access to therapy?
Well, if you say frequently suffer from headaches, would you not also eventually go see a doc to figure out whether it’s something bigger you should be worried about?
I think so. I have mild ADHD apparently. It makes sense and explains why I have so much difficulty doing things sometimes.
So now I know. I got meds for it but don’t take them (as others will say, how messed up is it that the cure to ADHD is a pill to take regularly?). The meds help tremendously when I do take them, and revert me back to what I’m used to when I don’t.
At worst, it’s just how I’ve lived my life before but knowing it’s not exactly my fault I feel so bad doing certain things. It’s still my problem to do them, as it was before, but knowing helps a little. And at best I have medication that helps. All upsides!
Also if you think it’s depression, I’d recommend a CBT book like Feeling Good. Self treatment is effective. I am not depressed but have still benefited from recognizing when my thoughts are irrational and redirecting them to more realistic, less unhappiness-inducing ones. Could be good practice until you get a therapist, and per the research, can be about as effective as having one (likely for low level depression, I am not an expert)
Nearly everyone in modern times has a mental illness because this capitalism-and-media-driven era we were all born in to is not healthy and drives everyone mad. Getting a diagnosis is handy if you’re seeking to get medicated and/or file for disability for the brain damage society has caused.
I went for a diagnosis, partially to support a claim of need for a special work environment as the rest of my team entered a bright, hot, loud hell-hole I knew would be the end of me. I have a history that could fit a profile of someone lightly affected by ADHD.
I got placed with a shrink over zoom, because #covid. Only rarely did she look up, but she was very sure I was affected. And the next 3 months were a roller-coaster.
You see, no matter what I said - side effects, worries about meds, ‘flattening’ - the answer was “more meds”. I could announce I was actively on fire, and her response would be to increase the dosage.
By the end she was convinced I was ‘profoundly’ ADHD; and me living with it for decades. More meds was the answer. More, more more.
I left my job anyway, and with that my extended medical also stopped. The monthly charge for medications was hundreds, the ‘flattening’ was becoming an impactful condition, and the distant nature of the person prescribing more meds without glancing at me became another issue. I began to feel that my entire involvement in this process of diagnosis and treatment was to validate someone’s profession and self-worth.
So I tapered off. I’ll get back into the process again, but not with this doc.
If you do start the diagnosis process, I hope you don’t get into a state where you doubt the professionals apparently working for your benefit. Trust is an important thing, and it’s frail.
I had a similar experience in some ways. I’ve seen many health professionals over the years, some counsellors, some therapists, some psychiatrists. It is very hard to find a good one that helps. It really depends on how good your mental health professional is, whether the diagnoses is going to be useful or not.
I have a couple stories about the doctors I’ve seen when I was in my 20s.
One was a psychiatrist. I would see her in person and like you she would barely look at me. She would spend 5 to 15 minutes with me. I told her about my very serious trauma and she didn’t say anything and didn’t try to discuss it. Completely uninterested, didn’t care at all. Just gave me drugs. She even prescribed me a stimulant meant for ADD. She didn’t say why or what it was for. I was too scared to ask her so I looked it up on the internet and found out it was for ADD symptoms, so I assumed I had ADD. Then about 8 months later, when the side effects were getting worrisome, I finally asked her about it. She said she thought I was a bit fat so she put me on it to make me lose weight. I never asked for help with that, and I was only 20lbs over weight at the time. We had never discussed my weight or anything, it was unhelpful and not why I went to see her. That medication would actually induce mania in me and I’d become impulsive and make really bad decisions while on it.
My next psychiatrist was worse. I was on a merry go round of meds all the time, changing nearly every month or two. It screws with your functioning getting use to one med, and then having to go off it. Withdrawals suck. And I was on multiple meds at one time so it was even worse. I was taking 8 different mental health meds at one point. I’d get side effects from one, then I’d get prescribed something to “help” with the side effects of that one, then get more side effects from this newest addition of drug, and again put on something to combat the side effects of that one. Or I’d mention something small that happened to me during the week, or a tiny thought that she squeezed out of me by her questioning and suddenly I’m on another drug with a brand new diagnosis. I got diagnosed and medicated for a tonne of different issues. I have no idea which ones are accurate. I don’t trust psychiatrists now.
When I would tell her I want OFF a medication, she would get insulted, as though it was a personal offense to her, and would interrogate me because I dared to question her. I’d have to prove it to her that I needed off them. Even though it was my body and if I wanted off them for absolutely any reason, even “I don’t like the way its making me feel”, I had a right to do so.
She also asked leading questions, and if I didn’t answer the way she wanted she would get irritated. So I started changing my answers to please her and her ego. I should have ended my sessions earlier than I did but I trusted her because she was a doctor, and because of my past I used to be a push over, especially with authority figures.
Her sessions could last 3 to 4 hours. It was mostly her talking at me about GMOs or television shows or whatever crap that had nothing to do with my issues, or doing office work like faxing prescriptions, or writing crap down after our appointment, or making phone calls. But she wouldn’t let me leave until she had done all that for some reason.
She was constantly late because she’d do the same with her other patients. I remember one time the patient after me knocked on the door and was justifiably annoyed. He said “it’s been 2 hours since my appointment was supposed to start”. She told him his current patient (me) was in total crisis breakdown and she needed to handle it. That was a lie. I was fine, I wasn’t crying or anything, I was normal. She was acting like I was actively suicidal or something and I wasn’t at all. Before the guy knocked on the door she was talking about where she bought her scarf. She was using me as an excuse for her poor time management. It was humiliating walking out into the waiting room after that in front of the patients out there knowing they heard her say that.
She would also gaslight me. She’d claim I never mentioned something before, when I know with 100% certainty I had. She would rifle through her notes and say “Nope it’s not here, you never said that.” As though it was final. Just because she never bothered to write it down didn’t mean I never brought it up. Luckily one of the times she claimed that, my partner was with me during those sessions and backed me up because he had heard me say it.
And these two long winded stories are only 2 of the people I saw. There’s more that were bad too. There was 1 that I wish I could have kept seeing because she was actually helping but we had to move.
TLDR I think if someone is just starting out trying to seek a diagnosis, I would not begin with a psychiatrist. They will dole out meds like candy. Go to a therapist or a counselor first and get an idea of what it could be before stuffing pills into yourself. Pills can help but it needs to be the right ones. Also if your mental health professional isn’t helping, end the sessions sooner rather than later. You should know by session 1 to 3 if they are going to be able to help you.
You can get help for your problem, mate. You can request accommodations at work or school. If needed, access to prescriptions. Maybe a way out of military conscription, or a defense in court if your crazy ass does something especially heinous.
Plus there is the validation that this isn’t just feeling blue or being hyper or whatever, it’s actually a thing and you should treat it like a thing.
Fellow Canadian here and I wouldn’t have survived university without my ADHD diagnosis. It unlocks all sorts of special accommodations and services that the school will provide which can help a lot of you are bad at taking tests. Not too mention medication.
As for accessing therapy, it can be helpful to tell a therapist that you are diagnosed with something so that they can tailor the work they do with you.
Lastly, my ASD diagnosis was literally life-changing. I only got it a couple years ago and it helped me go from socially awkward late-20s virgin to a confident guy with a girlfriend. Because as you said it makes you much more aware of what your weaknesses are if you can get that external validation from a professional.
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