Where did all this reddit hatred come from?

activator90, 10 months ago

For me, it’s the strictly enforced lack of ideological diversity. Anything other than the mainstream far left ideology is immediately censored. It’s a stupid echo chamber

esty, 10 months ago

far left, mainstream, in this world with desantis and rampant transphobia?

or are you just mad you can’t drop slurs and talk about hating minorities?

SoNick, 10 months ago

@activator90 Is it "mainstream" or is it "far left?"

@Candelestine

DrQuint, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

I have disliked the direction of reddit ever since they made the new interface and removed css rules from subs. It was the first time, of many, that I saw reddit take something from the community and screw it up, all just to make the website more boring. It was especially annoying in that it removed text flairs from support and marketplace subs and forced people to come up with external systems.

They did it more often. Things like Reddit Gold were not first made by reddit, did you know? The whole API thing is just the concrete slab that pulverized the camel all the way to hell. Of all the things they took or took away, taking away the app I was using since years before they even made one was just too much. I can go from passively disliking them to actively hating them.

Plus, what ideas did they actually have that was original or good? “Hey guys, we stole Facebook’s chat”. “Hey guys, we added crypto”. The community makes bots that mediate debates, convert video format or do reminders, meanwhile reddit busies itself by ruining the Relevant option on its already bad search and then fucks off while stating “eh, you fucking degenerate nerds use site:reddit.com anyways”

Turkey_Titty_city, 10 months ago

reddit's whole api used to be open and any user could run scripts with a bit of php. it was incredibly fun and interesting.

Flax_vert, 10 months ago

Wasn’t one of the now deceased founders the creator of RSS and a heavy advocate of open internet?

Valeia, 10 months ago

R.I.P. Aaron Swartz

Rottcodd, 10 months ago

It reminds me of watching a particularly nasty break-up play out, with emotions running high and lots of bile being spewed.

I dunno - I never especially liked Reddit in the first place, so it's just a thing I see others do. I moved there sort of grudgingly about ten years ago because there just weren't any other visble alternatives, and I've been more or less actively looking for a replacemnet all along, so when the threadiverse took off, I was ready.

But I suspect that for a lot of people, it's essentially that they invested a lot into the relationship, and then suddenly their partner betrayed them, and now they're pissed.

Arotrios, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

Having been there since the pre-Digg days, I simply hate what they're doing with the place. It hurts to see something you've enjoyed and contributed to over the past 20 years become the antithesis of the free and open internet it once represented. Every change they made to the site since they tried to migrate off the old.reddit.com interface has been a negative one for the users. The sudden acceleration of those kind of changes has made the site both unreadable (content is beyond stale now) and worthless to participate in.

I think for me, this disappointment turned to real visceral antipathy when I saw this page - it looks like something the CCP would design for kindergartners. It's not a place I want to be a part of at all, and I don't want my past contributions to fuel it.

Candelestine, 10 months ago

That is also very helpful, thank you. I can see that pissing people off.

Rottcodd, 10 months ago

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that they repeat the word "community" like every fourth word all the way through that insipid swill. It's definitely not a pathetically transparent attempt to retroactively stake a claim on the term that lemmy - the Reddit to their Digg - uses for its subforums.

Whirlybird, 10 months ago

People on reddit have been referring to the people in their subs as a “community” forever. It’s definitely not that deep. They don’t even know or care what Lemmy names anything.

Rottcodd, 10 months ago

Like I said, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that they repeat the word "community" at least 30 times on that page.

Oh, and this bit too, that I just noticed when I was counting "commumity"s:

Communities are the lifeblood of the Internet. But on today's Internet, they are not in charge of their own destiny. Instead, they are controlled by the large platforms that hold all the power online. It is time for a change.

Community Points are the first step towards a different future for online communities.

That's definitely just a coincidence and has nothing at all to do with trying to compete against the fediverse, which they definitely don't even pay any attention to.

Yup.

Whirlybird, 10 months ago

I just told you why they use the word community though? A community is a group of people in the same place. Subreddits have been referred to by the people in them as a community for years. People on Discord talk about their “community” on their servers. People on Xbox Live are a “community”.

It literally has nothing to do with Lemmy. Reddit aren’t threatened by Lemmy. Look how the protests went - they all flickered out and died with a whimper. Reddit is business as usual. Pretty much every sub is back to normal as if nothing ever happened because nothing basically did happen.

Candelestine, 10 months ago

Pretty much every sub is not even close to back to normal. I still check in from time to time over there. It’s very noticeable that a particular segment of the popular subs is now completely gone.

The video game and shitpost subs. Those are unchanged. The rest is very different.

BobbyBandwidth, 10 months ago

I think it also ties into a larger portion of people being fed up with corporate social media and corporations in general. All the ads, tracking, and shareholder profit driving decisions instead of what makes a product “good”.

BrikoX, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

API changes should have come into effect on July 1st, but they have been doing a prolonged rollout (a lot of the popular apps closed on June 30th) so that shattered some hopes for people that believed the blackouts would work.

And they also managed to make a lot stupid comments and other decisions between then and now. Combine that with people already being unhappy and some hostility towards the company is not out of the question.

Hating platform is unproductive, but emotional response is a very human thing. I’m just happy new alternative platforms came from Reddit greed and they are thriving. I stopped following all the Reddit-focused communities and I don’t even keep up with what’s happening there.

Zathras, 10 months ago

I feel a part of it is similar to anger of the natural process of grieving. Many of us spent years contributing to the platform and enjoyed just spending time with other like-minded members of subreddits. I personally loved reading the chains of comments. Reddit was a great source of pleasure; a place for sharing humor, frustrations, and other random cool things. Much of what made it enjoyable, including he third party apps, was taken away in a fashion that felt like the user base was betrayed, hence the utter vehement expression of some former users. It will pass in time.

Candelestine, 10 months ago

I do hope it does, I don’t particularly enjoy the hating in general. Kills the chill vibes around here. Which is why I’m trying to understand it better.

I was a post-blackout refugee myself, I’m not OG Fediverse. But the tone in those initial days of migration were overall a lot more chilled out. It’s really not until this past week or so that it feels like the hate machine is firing up.

I was wondering if maybe people were still blaming the hacks on reddit or something, I know that was flying around for awhile.

Tag365, 10 months ago

The API changes were the trigger for the recent controversy and the fact that they may be forced to use the buggy official app instead of an unofficial but stable and well developed app pushed people too far. The API change is what caused the blackout and disgust for Reddit.

Izzy, 10 months ago

Hate is a strong word, but I don’t like the power that comes with an extremely centralized internet. I also don’t like the ad driven internet. So Reddit as a website is no good in my opinion.

Candelestine, 10 months ago

I picked it intentionally, hoping some people feeling some actual powerful emotions might try to explain why. Regardless of what I think of it intellectually, I don’t experience strong emotions towards it. I don’t miss it, I don’t hate it, my emotions towards it are very neutral.

I’m curious about others though. Emotionally, not intellectually.

RotaryKeyboard, 10 months ago

Almost the same thing happened on Reddit when everyone migrated from Digg. It’s so similar, in fact, that I wonder if maybe this isn’t a normal thing.

Candelestine, 10 months ago

I never used Digg, so I never got to see. That makes sense that it might be a pattern of some sort though.

Wolfen, 10 months ago

I suspect it’s more users migrating over to here. I am coming here more than on Reddit now because of Reddits actions. Just trying to get used to Lemmy. The vibes are friendlier here, that’s for sure. I imagine that won’t last once even more Redditors come this way.