If Trump and Biden both died today, what would happen?

Imagine the following scenario: On the 9th of January 2024 in the morning we wake up to news that President of the USA Joe Biden suffered a stroke and died in White House. The administration confirms that the death was entirely natural and no third party contributed to it. Even before the news reach all TV stations another one breaks: Former president of the USA Donald Trump has suffered a cardiac arrest and died in his residence in Mar a Lago. Early reports claim that the site was secure and no malicious actor could reasonably reach Mr. Trump so the death is most likely natural.

What happens then?

nickhammes,

Kamala Harris becomes President, VP office is empty until she nominates a replacement and they’re confirmed by a majority vote of both houses of Congress, which likely does not happen.

DNC needs to figure out how to select a new candidate, likely using a process they’ve created already but never tested.

RNC already had primaries scheduled, and they’ll remove Trump from ballots where possible, as he’d be ineligible on account of having died, and they continue their primary process. It’s probably between Haley and Desantis in the end, seeing who can pick up more Trump voters. Ramaswami probably becomes a bit more relevant, but still loses.

The media loses their minds, and the people of the Internet make so many references to Death Note.

CrazyEddie041,
CrazyEddie041 avatar

You forgot the part where millions of people still write in Donald Trump based on the widespread conspiracy that he's still alive, and we get to figure out what happens when a state tries to elect a dead man.

nickhammes,

I hate that you’re probably right

Igotz80HDnImWinning,

Disagree. I fully support this conspiracy theory and I am quite certain the GOP would do it if they had the chance. It’s better than running ads for a 3rd party candidate to splitthe vote. Just get on and speculate or report sightings of him.

Donebrach,
@Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

This would mean nothing because the electoral college exists. Likely all the red states would opt for the Republican candidate and blue for the Democratic candidate.

Horsey, (edited )

This happened in Missouri in 2000 for a senate seat. The governor appointed his widow to the senate seat which she lost in the special election shortly afterwards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_Senate_election_in_Missouri#:~:text=Incumbent%20Republican%20Senator%20John%20Ashcroft,three%20weeks%20before%20election%20day.

ji17br,

Election at Bernie’s.

underwire212,

Neoliberalism would live on…

KeepFlying,

Them both being dead is both convenient and conveniently suspicious. Since Trump is guarded by secret service, conspiracies would arise saying they (under Bidens order, or a Harris power grab) killed him. It would be completely absurd given the circumstances and no reputable source would support it, but people would believe it anyway and Fox would push the story. Widely broadcast funerals for each of them.

Then nothing… The conspiracies would flow, but nothing much would change.

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

Green party sweeps

Daft_ish,

A sigh of relief. Coming from me. Unfortunately not much more than that.

ComradeKhoumrag,
@ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub avatar

We’d have a real election race that’s for sure

Death_Equity,

Not Burnie Sanders vs DeSantis.

DeSantis wins because old people are Republican and the youth don’t vote.

isles,

the youth don’t vote

Oh?

We estimate that 50% of young people, ages 18-29, voted in the 2020 presidential election, a remarkable 11-point increase from 2016 (39%) and likely one of the highest rates of youth electoral participation since the voting age was lowered to 18.

45-64 year old voting is in decline, declining from 75% to 71% over time.

crusa187,

Dancing and singing in the streets

Sagifurius,

BEER THIRTY, HONKY TONK TIME

eatham,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

It’s already 11th Jan why’d you write Jan 9

xantoxis,

If Biden died, his VP, Kamala Harris would become the president–the first woman president, as it happens. Everything would pretty much go on as it was.

Trump’s death is entirely irrelevant to this scenario, and not useful to consider.

loopedcandle,

But not a bad daydream

GhostTheToast,

Never really thought it like this before, but would the entire chain move up? Like Speaker comes VP or would Harris get to select a new VP?

Tikiporch,

25th amendment describes this process. Harris selects a new VP. Both houses of congress confirm by majority vote (good fucking luck).

Zipitydew,

Harris appoints a new VP. Majority of Congress has to approve that appointment.

Check out Article 25 of the Constitution for more details.

Ford appointed Nelson Rockefeller to be VP after Nixon’s resignation.

bionicjoey, (edited )

Here’s a good explanation of succession

morphballganon,

Trump’s death is entirely irrelevant to this scenario, and not useful to consider.

You’re only addressing what happens with the current administration. OP’s question as stated opens the door to discussion about the 2024 election, the MAGA movement, the state of fascism in the nation etc.

KingJalopy,

Why? Are you thinking about doing this country a favor?

morphballganon,

One person couldn’t do both in one day

Burninator05,

You crazy MF’r! That’s exactly what someone who could do both in one day would say!

Feathercrown,

THIS SUMMER

loud music begins

TWO ASSASSINATIONS

split screen shot of Trump and Biden

ONE MAN

the crazy pickle guy from Independence Day

WILL HAVE THE GREATEST ROAD TRIP OF ALL TIME

several comedic moments with quick cuts

IN…

movie title appears as the music hits its peak

date flashes on the screen

small stinger scene appears to end the trailer

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

A new holiday would be created and we’d party for a week straight.

Pika,

Honestly, I think if Trump died instantaneous there would be a massive movement claiming that the current Administration was the cause of death and they would use the most recent judicial hearing regarding Seal Team 6 as evidence towards it. There would be no proof of anything because like you said it was a natural death but that would not be enough to prove anything and I believe there would still be riots

As for if the president dropped dead, the vice president would take over and there would likely be an investigation into an assassination attempt but I don’t think anything would come out of it because like mentioned it would be a natural death.

notsorryforpartying,
@notsorryforpartying@lemmy.world avatar

Died today? The 9th was yesterday my guy, look at a calendar haha

jantin,

Oh I know, but I wanted to make sure no one has any grounds to accuse me of prophecies or something worse. Also the precise date doesn’t matter.

mateomaui,

Probably tweet some condolences to Hunter, then wait for Trump to buried, to finally go pee on him.

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