TurboDiesel,
@TurboDiesel@lemmy.world avatar

There’s no “algorithm” per se, so you can actually discover new things in your feed, rather than just being fed what they think will keep you scrolling.

Also, you can use whatever app you like (I like Sync personally, but that’s because it was my client of choice for Reddit) instead of using their RSS reader stapled to a Wish.com TikTok clone.

SorteKanin,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

There’s no “algorithm” per se, so you can actually discover new things in your feed, rather than just being fed what they think will keep you scrolling.

Well, there is an algorithm but currently they are quite simple. Certainly not taking any kind of personal data or advertisement data into account, which is nice.

More advanced sorting algorithms could be made in the future to sort more personally, maybe based on the communities you follow or things like that. But the key point is that for Lemmy, the algorithm will always be open source and transparent, while the Reddit algorithm is a black box and you have no idea how much personal info its using.

What I’m trying to say is, algorithms aren’t bad. Opaque, closed-source, privacy-invading algorithms (or anything else) is bad.

FlavoredButtHair, (edited )
@FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world avatar

They’ll ban you because of your opinion. If you disagree with the wrong user or mod, you get banned from the subreddit or the whole site.

Fuck r/cordcutters and fuck r/news

ABCDE,

I dared to question how Nazis were still alive; instant permaban to my 10+ year account. They are more interested in defending Nazis than they are removing them.

FlavoredButtHair,
@FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world avatar

Well there was a video on r/news where a group of cops beat sonebody pretty bad, body cam footage I think.

I commented “I hope those cops get what they deserve” you know like criminal charges of some sort. Oh no, reddit was perfectly fine with cops being bad cops.

That was my secondary account oh well.

ABCDE,

And any recourse/appeal is not guaranteed a response, nor will you know if it is ever looked at. Nuts, especially since there are subs which I was on and had built a large reputation for trading, one of which no new users can register on. Fun loss of earnings from that day forward.

FlavoredButtHair,
@FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world avatar

I was never really worried about reputation or virtual points. I just tried to contribute to conversations and be respectful. But Reddit has gone down hill. Soon it’ll be dead like MySpace.

ABCDE,

Mine was for trading, which was profitable for me. I needed that reputation/review score for people to trust me. Oh well.

wanderingmagus,

Note that you can get banned from specific communities or instances, just not from Lemmy itself, as long as you are on a permissive instance or your own instance.

Tarquinn2049,

No changes will ever be forced-in to appease “the boss”.

jared,
@jared@mander.xyz avatar

Beans and jeans!

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

First you eat the beans. Then you go through the no poop challenge. If the worst comes, you’ll need to wash the jeans.

Kissaki,
  • You can choose an instance that gives you like-minded people and an intentional community (like feddit.de for a German instance, or programming.dev for all things development and programming related, or ani.social for anime communities, or beehaw.org for a more vetted signup and member approach for a more social and healthy userbase)
  • Lemmy is federated meaning despite this separation into instances users can read and participate in communities and posts of other instances
  • Instances can choose to not federate or to block other instances according to their choices (another reason to choose your instance according to your intentions and expectations or usage pattern)
  • You can link posts, add text to the post, and edit post titles after posting

Those are probably the most obvious and usage facing differences. Additionally:

  • Lemmy is a platform of free and open source software, open to customizations and collaboration
  • Lemmy instances are run by groups and individuals, it’s open to people and groups joining with their own instances
  • As such, both in software source and platform, Lemmy is a community project whereas Reddit is a private company (soon a public company owned by shareholders)
  • Lemmy has an open API allowing for custom client, bot, and other integrations
  • Lemmy uses the open ActivityPub protocol, so it can interact with many other platforms like Mastodon, KBin, etc

In many other ways, it is similar to Reddit. Like having upvotes and downvotes. Lemmy is still young, so it will improve in terms of functionality and annoyances.

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

You can create a post with link, image and content all at once.

Nusm,
@Nusm@yall.theatl.social avatar

I find higher meaningful engagement and much less toxic culture here.

It takes time to cultivate your community list here, just like it took time to build my followed subreddits back when I first started with Reddit, but I get posts that I care about and am interested in in my “Subscribed” list. I’ll admit that not every one of my interests are represented, but I’m still happy here.

QuarterSwede,
@QuarterSwede@lemmy.world avatar

The engagement is far better here for sure. Almost every comment I make has some form of reply. It’s especially good when you’re the first comment. People seem to respond well to that.

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

after lemmy i would definitely check out the products that can explore more of the fediverse, like mbin. it cant interoperate with lemmy and allows intercommunication with the 'microblog' side of the fediverse, which lemmy is incapable. https://moist.catsweat.com

XEAL,

Censorship

You thought Reddit mods had a stick up their asses? Lemmy ones have a fucking log instead.

Curious_Canid,
@Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca avatar

But, unlike reddit, you have a lot of options here. If you don’t like the way a community is moderated, start your own. If you don’t like the way a server is moderated, switch to a different one or start your own. The platform is no longer tied to a particular instance and the whims of whoever manages it.

ABCDE,

Can’t anyone in a sub delete posts made to it, or am I confused?

Curious_Canid,
@Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t think anyone can delete posts except for the poster and the moderators.

ABCDE,

How do moderators work if there are subs which are hosted on multiple platforms?

Curious_Canid,
@Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca avatar

Any given sub is only hosted on one instance, although moderators can be on other instances. I don’t know how moderation changes propagate across other instances. I hope someone else will explain that.

e-five,
@e-five@kbin.run avatar

In the end it's mostly an agreement on how moderation actions should and are allowed to propagate for activity pub groups, which you can learn more about here https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/1b12/fep-1b12.md#group-moderation

The tl;dr is there's a set way of saying these specific users are allowed to send actions such as delete on these specific posts, and software that implements groups (communities, to lemmy) ideally implement it in the same way. Of course, someone could always make a software that denies all remote moderation actions for instance, so it's always up to those implementing the AP spec.

Lemmy has a large userbase, so generally probably gets to decide a lot of these things, such as how moderators are listed when getting information on communities, and other software will have to choose to follow along to be able to work with the large userbase or raise concerns/give feedback if needed

Curious_Canid,
@Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca avatar

Thanks for the explanation and for the link!

wanderingmagus,

That only applies to specific instances, or even specific communities. Just switch to a different instance or community, or make your own. If you don’t like lemmy.world, try out either exploding-heads or lemmygrad, depending which way you swing, and vice versa. Somewhere out there is the community and instance for you, and if none of them are to your taste, nothing’s stopping you from making your own - that’s the beauty of the fediverse.

XEAL, (edited )

Setting up an instance is not a resposibility that I want to have. I don’t wanna have to deal with trolls posting illegal shit that I will have to take care of.

And even without that, my instance could be defederated by yet another fucking moron with a log up his ass.

wanderingmagus,

Well, if the moron was gonna defederate you anyways, its not like you’d ever have wanted to be on his instance and beholden to his rules. Like I said, we’ve got all sorts of instances out here - you just have to find your niche. From straight Marxist instances like lemmygrad to the exact opposite over at exploding-heads, to pirates over at dbzer0. Whatever you’re into, it’s probably here - just maybe not at lemmy.world. Try out lemm.ee or sh.itjust.works, or ask around for whatever instances fit your style. There’s even full, anti-censorship free speech absolutist instances around here if you take a look around.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

You thought Reddit mods had a stick up their asses? Lemmy ones have a fucking modlog instead.

Fixed that for you!

I’m half-joking. Being completely serious now, I don’t think that censorship here is worse than in Reddit, just more visible due to features like the mod log, and lack of features like the automoderator (it’s harder to detect if you’ve been silenced if it happens automatically, based on keywords).

Smoogs,

No ads

Nice interface that I don’t even mind using the browser

User Content isn’t being used to push lemmy as a stock value.

Bishma, (edited )
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I particularly like how the Threadiverse dev’s and server hosts don’t count our posts and the work of mods as their value.

kellyaster, (edited )
@kellyaster@lemmy.world avatar

For starters, Lemmy – which uses open source ActivityPub protocols – is decentralized and comprised of thousands of independently-run servers, so it’s theoretically impossible to take down Lemmy completely. If lemmy.world goes down today and never comes back, the “Lemmy” network will still be online because of the other servers like lemmy.zip and sh.itjust.works that use Lemmy server software (which is currently at version .19 or around there).

Worth nothing: Lemmy is part of the Fediverse, which is an umbrella term to describe all ActivityPub software types. Yes, other software packages also use ActivityPub protocols to communicate… for example, Kbin (the “main” site is kbin.social, it’s sorta like their lemmy.world) is a news aggregator like Lemmy and interacts with Lemmy almost seamlessly. There’s also Mastodon, a Twitter-like service that currently Kbin users can interact with (but not Lemmy).

In short: it’s kinda complex at the moment, and many parts of the Fediverse (which Lemmy belongs to) don’t interact with each other directly because they provide different services, but it’s important to note that it’s really hard to take it down completely because the Fediverse is independently owned and run by different people in different parts of the world. Contrast with Reddit, a service that does have many servers but is owned and run by a single company in America.

Edit: I was wrong, Mastodon users can post on Lemmy instances, but Lemmy users can’t post on Mastodon instances. Thanks Baku@aussie.zone for the info!

SorteKanin,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

the “Lemmy” network

There isn’t a Lemmy network, there’s just ActivityPub or more colloquially the Fediverse :)

Baku,

There’s also Mastodon, a Twitter-like service that currently Kbin users can interact with (but not Lemmy).

They can interact with us though, and then we can interact back. We can’t really “post” there, but if a mastodonian makes a post in a Lemmy community, us lemmings can see it, and then we can reply to them. But we can’t do twitter style posts on their forum

The biggest telltale sign you’re talking to a mastodonian rather than a lemming is that you’ll see them @ everybody in the entire thread in every single reply, since that’s how replies start on twitter and mastodon. I’ve never actually received a notification for the @'s, I think it’s functionally closer to just linking to your user profile than an actual mention, but once you get deep in a thread you’ll see every comment starting with 60 different @'s.

PlexSheep,

It might actually be an idea to treat your own profile like a community, isn’t that something that reddit had too? Like you could post to r/importantcommunity or to u/goodusername

Baku,

Yeah, my last post on Reddit was actually to my profile redirecting people here. Don’t think we have that here yet, although it could be useful.

I never really saw it used for anything useful though, it was primarily used for spam in my experience. But it would probably improve compatibility between us and mastodonians

kellyaster,
@kellyaster@lemmy.world avatar

Ah ok, I didn’t know they could post here, that’s really cool. Thanks for the correction!

Baku,

No worries! Here’s an example of a post by a mastodon user on a Lemmy community (another telltale sign is that virtually no lemmings use hashtags):

aussie.zone/post/7464977

And one of those deep mention comment threads (though I’ve seen deeper):

aussie.zone/comment/4629969

wise_pancake,

Star Trek memes. I didn’t even come here for them, but they’re everywhere, like the Picard manoeuvre.

kellyaster,
@kellyaster@lemmy.world avatar

!tenforward for all your Trek meme needs. O’Brien must suffer!

skullgiver, (edited )
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

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  • kellyaster,
    @kellyaster@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m trying to. That entire instance is run by assholes. It’s the only reason why Ten Forward exists

    crawancon,

    it isn’t yet saturated by corporate and other agenda minded shills.

    it isn’t controlled by a board of directors or single owners.

    although it is vulnerable to quite a bit. info mining, misinformation campaigns, etc.

    rosemash,

    The accuracy of the votes (lack or vote fuzzing) and the ability to view the split of upvotes and downvotes individually, as well as who voted for what

    The latter point can be seen as a kind of disadvantage though. I don’t like the fact that anyone who is an admin on any instance can go to another instance and see the identity of every voter on any post.

    Baku,

    You can view who votes for things? I think that’s a kbin thing, isn’t it?

    rosemash, (edited )

    No, it’s on Lemmy too

    PlexSheep,

    As part of the mod log? Or somewhere else

    rosemash, (edited )

    It’s just an option on every post

    i.imgur.com/j5ZB8vi.png

    On the regular Lemmy UI you can see the option if you’re an admin (on any instance, not just the one the comment was made on)

    Baku,

    I’ve never seen that before. I wonder if it’s an instance dependent setting?

    Blaze,

    It is limited to admins

    rosemash,

    And anyone can be an admin. You can just make an instance and appoint yourself an admin. So in practice it’s not limited to anybody.

    Blaze,

    That’s interesting, I thought you could only see votes for communities from instances where you are an admin.

    Blaze, (edited )

    Having a look at your screenshot again, upvotes are indeed visible (they are using Kbin too for every user).

    Example for this thread: fedia.io/m/…/favourites

    Is it the same for downvotes?

    rosemash, (edited )

    Is it the same for downvotes?

    Yes

    It’s honestly a big downside. I can see it being useful for admins on their own instances to detect brigades or vote manipulation coming from different servers, but I don’t like that they are public, because it could discourage people from voting honestly on topics where they could potentially be harassed for engaging

    Blaze,

    Thanks

    SorteKanin,
    @SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

    I can see it being useful for admins on their own instances to detect brigades or vote manipulation coming from different servers, but I don’t like that they are public, because it could discourage people from voting honestly on topics where they could potentially be harassed for engaging

    Well, if someone gets harassed for voting then the harasser should be banned, just as if you get harassed for any other reason. So it’s not any different than posts or comments in that way.

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