SwingingKoala,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

And they tell you inflation is GOOD because it makes the EcOnOmY grow!

ThrowawayPermanente,

Ricardo’s Law of Rent

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

So what you’re saying is raises are bad.

/s

1050053,

(not just) Dublin landlords.

PoliticalAgitator,

Inflation is when rich people think you’ve got money you’re not handing over.

Kiosade, (edited )

This is not what inflation is. Inflation is bad for rich people because the value of their wealth hoards decreases, but what this actually is (wildly increasing rent and prices of groceries) is just (legal) profiteering if anything.

Edit: it appears I was mistaken. Please disregard this post.

ArachnidMania,

Rich people aren’t just hoarding money in a bank like Scruge Mcduck, unless they’re not very smart. If most of their money was tied into bank bonds that didn’t out perform inflation, then it’s bad for them. But if it’s tied to business stock or ownership, then those stocks are now worth more money for one to be willing to give up that stock. Inflation benefits some types and hurts others.

Kiosade,

Thanks! I’ll edit my post with this knowledge in mind.

Prunebutt,

Kudos to you for not doubling down!

KevonLooney,

You were not mistaken though. Read my comment about net debtors benefitting from inflation.

Your general idea of inflation being bad for those who hold money is correct. Stocks and real estate don’t counteract inflation, they are just less affected by it.

Wealthy people are net lenders because they usually hold more bonds than they borrow. That means they are negatively affected by inflation.

Clent,

This isn’t true. Wealthy people do not hold more bonds than they issue. Berkshire Hathaway for example has less than 1% of their funds invested in bonds

The mantra is that bonds are part of diverse portfolio but this for people who are investing in retirement funds.

Bonds are often held for this purpose. They are a useful for an income steam but they are not where the majority of anyone’s investments are held because they are not fast growers. Furthermore, bonds are a hedge against inflation because they grow faster when inflation is high which obliterates your entire argument.

KevonLooney,

bonds are a hedge against inflation

This is incorrect and harmful to people who read it. See below:

Inflation is a bond’s worst enemy. Inflation erodes the purchasing power of a bond’s future cash flows. Typically, bonds are fixed-rate investments. If inflation is increasing (or rising prices), the return on a bond is reduced in real terms, meaning adjusted for inflation.

investopedia.com/…/bond-market-interest-rates.asp

Clent,

Still not true. I Bonds.

Do not trust anyone who uses investopedia as a primary source on what or how to invest. It’s magazine level content. The equivalency here is using popular science as a reference for how to engineer a bridge.

KevonLooney,

The actual thing that determines whether someone gains or loses from inflation is: are they a net debtor or lender?

Donald Trump has “money” but may actually benefit from from inflation if he’s so highly leveraged that his net worth is negative. A relatively poor retired couple with no debt may be worse off, because they borrow no money and pay for everything with cash.

explodicle,

You’re describing who benefits from changes in the rate of inflation. Someone with a lot of credit card debt is worse off from high inflation because the rate of inflation was already priced into the rate they were forced to accept.

So let’s say we’ve got 25% inflation. The only loans you’ll be offered will be at >25%. An increase once you’ve already gotten the loan helps reduce its real value, but that initial 25% is coming out of your paycheck.

This is because the lender can just invest in anything else, while you need dollars now - the burden falls on the less elastic side of the trade.

Natanael,

Yup, and also those furthest away from the source of the cash flow when new coins are minted (and the equivalent generation of money in fractional banking loans) also tend to suffer more from inflation while those closest often benefit. It’s like being upstream vs downstream of a popular river as a fisherman.

4am,

Rich people do not hoard cash. Their assets appreciate as more profit is realized from the inflation (which is always accompanied by, and often caused by, price gouging). Line go up. They win every time.

ares35,
ares35 avatar

my rent went up twice after covid cash was distributed. i literally didn't get to keep even a penny of any of those checks.

PainInTheAES,

Damn he’s yolked, what the fuck.

Carlo,

Man, I always thought it was “yoked”. Boy, is there egg on my face! (☞゚ヮ゚)☞

PainInTheAES,

Well he’s yoked cuz he’s plowing but yolked cuz he’s swole

Tylerdurdon,

Next frame is him giving the landlord the BAM BAM

PainInTheAES,

He gave the landlord his best friends adopted son for rent? Oh the humanity.

nxdefiant,

Literally a cave man who breaks rocks for a living.

JowlesMcGee,
JowlesMcGee avatar

Also a war vet, in the continuity of this particular series.

PainInTheAES,

True and valid. It’s just that they made him such a schlub I’m the TV show. This Fred Flintstone seems like he could go toe to toe with a superhero.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

That’s just Clark Kent in a post-apocalyptic timeline/universe.

DragonTypeWyvern, (edited )

I think people just got tired of the schlubby guy with the smoking hot wife trope, but they also don’t want to see a schlubby wife so you just make Fred ripped instead.

Catoblepas,

The in-comic explanation, IIRC, is that their entire society had transitioned in a single generation from hunter gatherers to… whatever you would call the setting of The Flintstones, lmao. So he grew up being menaced by wild animals and constantly being on the move and shit.

Nomecks,

He drives a dinosaur though

Godort,

The flintstones comic run from 2016 was hugely anti-capitalist. Highly recommend reading it if you haven’t.

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

Mark Russell’s Wonder Twins series was fantastic, too.

I’m not even big into comics, but his are definitely worth a read.

Son_of_dad,

There was also other contemporary issues like immigration and job security. Racism as a cause of the immigration of Neanderthals, etc.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I vaguely remember the Flintstones cartoon (or maybe the Jetsons?) having an episode that addressed racism/tolerance as well. Something about “new neighbors moving in” and finding common ground.

Mongostein,

Was it the Gruesomes?

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Just googled them, and maybe? It’s been a while. I remember there being a scene where they were upset about their new neighbors’ loud music.

Mongostein,

Yeah I think that was part of the Gruesome’s introduction. They were basically The Addam’s Family.

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