TimeSquirrel,
TimeSquirrel avatar

"I hate how everyone always stereotypes and makes fun of us southern states so much, it's not fair."

Then they go do shit like this.

force, (edited )

to be ““fair”” i’m pretty sure most (first world) countries actually don’t restrict sex between first cousins. or same-sex incest for that matter. could be misremembering though

what is extremely sickening about it is the age the bill wants which makes it not at all comparable to most other countries (well except like France until recently maybe)

i mean it’s still pretty incestuous so trying to separate it from other forms of incest as if it’s so much different doesn’t make much sense

edit: here’s a map

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cfae2b8c-4c59-4812-acfb-e565b3bbf9b5.webp

lmao i like italy’s stance. “yea bro u can fuck ur dad if the news doesn’t find out”

Passerby6497,

siblings

dad

I think I see a pattern here…

KarsicKarl,
KarsicKarl avatar

This was a mistake in the bill which he retracted, amended and resubmitted.

The first cousins are safe, legally anyway.

What I don't get is I assume they had a law so why was this needed?

ExcursionInversion,
@ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world avatar

Yea, news article I saw said he posted this about it

I filed HB 269 yesterday. The purpose of the bill is to add “sexual contact” to the incest statute. Currently, incest only applies in cases of intercourse. So sexual touching/groping by uncles, stepdads or anyone with a familial relationship is not included in incest. My bill makes that kind of sexual contact a Class D Felony, unless the victim is under the age of 12, then it increases the penalty to a Class C Felony.

During the drafting process, there was an inadvertent change, which struck “first cousins” from the list of relationships included under the incest statute, and I failed to add it back in. During today’s session, I will withdraw HB 269 and refile a bill with the “first cousin” language intact. The fact that I was able to file a bill, catch the mistake, withdraw the bill and refile within a 24 hour period shows that we have a good system.

This is a bill to combat a problem of familial and cyclical abuse that transcends generations of Kentuckians. I understand that I made a mistake, but I sincerely hope my mistake doesn’t hurt the chances of the corrected version of the bill. It is a good bill, and I hope it will get a second chance.

AquaTofana,

So wait, he was actually trying to expand the definition of incest to protect more victims?

I didn’t see that coming at all! Not from a Republican anyhow. They don’t really come off as the party that gives a fuck about the victims.

Huh.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Sometimes, a picture and a headline is all you need.

half_built_pyramids,

Finally, a win for the Rs

Reptorian,

Well, they’re into that. If it is taboo, then they are all in that.

snekerpimp,

“This candidate knows how to speak to his base”

spaghettiwestern,

The article conveniently leaves out that 19 states allow marriages between first cousins and additional states allow those marriages under certain conditions according to Wikipedia. It also is legal in most countries.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Never bothering to make a law about something is VERY different than having made such a law in the past and making a point to go out of their way to change it.

Plus, it is funny bc it reinforces the stereotype, which this comment summarizes well.

Mamertine,

Jokes aside.

Felony by definition means it’s punishable by at least one year in prison.

So specifically, why are we incarcerating consenting adults for having sex?

From a moral point, don’t do that. From a legal point, stay out of the bedroom.

I’ll also add context of this is a very Western belief. Natives of America prevented inbreeding by not marrying within the clan. Your first cousins could be in a different clan and therefore open for marriage.

breakingcups,

You say consenting adults, the bill says one of them can be as young as 13 years…

Mamertine,

Yes, and I’ll counter that argument by suggesting we ban having sex with children regardless of if the molester is related.

half_built_pyramids,

Right? It’s only like 1.7 to 2.8% more of a chance of a birth defect. That’s nothing. That’s gambling odds easy. Every day.

kromem,

It largely depends on how prevalent it is socially.

In societies where first cousin reproduction isn’t common, the increased risk of birth defects is about the same as a pregnancy where the mother is in her 40s.

In societies where it is common, the rates can go up sharply though when it compounds across generations.

half_built_pyramids,

Good point. Who cares about the lower rates, honestly? Its not like we’re the ones that have to live with the defect lol, keep blasting homies

jak,

I think the issue is twofold: if you allow a groomer (a real one, not a drag queen) to be around a child for their entire life, there will be an effect on what the child wants as an adult; and people have a lot of opportunities to blackmail family members.

Those things make it difficult to determine if the two consenting adults are both truly consenting. It’s the same logic behind banning polygamy- it’s very easy for people to become trapped in it because their entire social universe supports it, so if you say no, you’re excommunicated. There’s therefore no real way to know if you consented.

It’s the same reason cops can’t have sex with people they are holding under arrest. Oh wait…

Naja_Kaouthia,
@Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world avatar

Christ on a bike I thought this was The Onion.

jjjalljs,

Same. It would be a struggle to write a fake headline about the republican party.

TheGrandNagus,

Of course it wouldn’t. Would you believe any headline like this?

Kentucky Republican pushes for increased minimum wage

Kentucky Republican calls for greater sex education in schools

Kentucky Republican wants to make abortions more accessible

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

It should be, it should be for fucks sake, but this apparently is the timeline where it is not:-(.

Telorand,

I feel bad for them. Material is scant, what with Trump and Republicans fucking up reality.

NegativeLookBehind,
NegativeLookBehind avatar

I rock climb in Kentucky sometimes. It looks like a war zone. Maybe they should fix the astounding levels of poverty, instead of ensuring that it’s legal to bang your family.

rekabis, (edited )

Inbreeding breeds dumber people, who are more likely to end up in poverty.

That would make the population an ideal Republican electorate.

They are enacting these laws to personally benefit.

NegativeLookBehind,
NegativeLookBehind avatar

The whole family benefits!

MataVatnik,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Red River Gorge enjoyer?

NegativeLookBehind,
NegativeLookBehind avatar

Once in a while I grab a slice at Miguel’s and occasionally stick the dyno on June Bug

Thwompthwomp,

I used to go backpacking in the gorge like every spring break through hs and college, and I loved seeing Miguel stickers show up all over the country. An ale 8 and a slice of Miguel’s is a fantastic way to end a trip

breakfastmtn,
@breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca avatar
JudahBenHur,

I like the way they think

gibmiser,

Glad they are tackling the important issues in Kentucky. I’m sure every Kentuckyan has their ability to fuck their first cousin high on the list of problems they wish their government would address.

Daft_ish,

It’s stupidity guarantees it will be passed.

skydivekingair,

It’s Kentucky, what else matters? lol

captainlezbian,

“At 17 you can marry your first cousin but you can’t have hormones that your doctor is happy to prescribe”-Kentucky

Actually I’m surprised that’s the youngest I could make that joke. They recently raised the minimum marriage age to 17 with parental consent which like took you long enough but still good job

mateomaui,

Maybe he has a personal interest in this?

edit:

The amendment would also reduce the designation of incest by contact to a Class D felony for some cases “unless it is committed with a person who is less than twelve years of age,” in which case it is Class C.

uhhhhhhhhhhh…. that age cutoff seems low

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Not if the child he has his eye set on is just above it. :-(

S_204,

She’s 10, laws take time to enact…

These people are horrid.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

🤢 🤮 😵‍💫

Theprogressivist,
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

Hey Nick Wilson, tell us you fuck your cousin without telling us you fuck your cousin.

blanketswithsmallpox,

I mean… Who hasn’t had a hot cousin when you go to those really big family reunions…

Most people just legislate to try to rape em.

gregorum,

The amendment would also reduce the designation of incest by contact to a Class D felony for some cases “unless it is committed with a person who is less than twelve years of age,” in which case it is Class C.

his 13 year-old cousin, it seems

Oderus,

Less than 12 … so basically she’s 12.

Evilcoleslaw,

No, she will be 12 just before the law takes effect.

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