tchambers, (edited )

It was pretty obvious that this would be so - but just noting that the Fediverse outlived the Metaverse.

Even with untold billions of dollars and multiple big tech entities pushing it, the Metaverse didn't live much past 3 years old.

At least in this incarnation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/metaverse-dead-obituary-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-tech-fad-ai-chatgpt-2023-5

starbreaker,

@tchambers Zuckerberg's metaverse only lived for three years.

Final Fantasy XIV's been running for 10 years.

World of Warcraft has been running almost 20.

Everquest has been running since 1999.

Ultima Online has been running since 1997.

These MMORPGs might not be "the metaverse" as Mark Zuckerberg defines it, or even as Neal Stephenson defined it, but I think it's the closest we've got to a working implementation so far.

Albatross,
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@starbreaker @tchambers You can visit this open system,
ssh -p 2233 muinet@muinet.com (password muinet)
and find the first commercial MMORPG, Scepter of Goth, still running 40 years later.

starbreaker,

@Albatross @tchambers I’ve played variations on Bartle’s MUD, but this seems to pre-date MUD…

https://dwheeler.com/scepter-of-goth/scepter-of-goth.html

Albatross, (edited )
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@starbreaker @tchambers Bartle and I have met and discussed it and we agree development was parallel, but Scepter was inarguably the first to charge money. [Edit] Oh, there's your link to David's page, it has details I've forgotten. Here's a really old picture of David.

starbreaker,

@Albatross @tchambers I just had a go at Sceptre of Goth. Didn’t manage to level up before getting killed, though. A slatherer got me.

Albatross,
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@starbreaker @tchambers I wrote the damned database and In can't walk the streets of Boldhome without getting killed.

starbreaker,

@Albatross @tchambers So it wasn't just me, and Sceptre isn't just the original MMORPG, but probably one of the original games, too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masocore

Albatross,
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@starbreaker @tchambers could be. OTOH the source has been out of my hands for over 35 years, so all sorts of things could have happened to game balance in that time. What's running at Muinet is the great great grandchild of source code stolen from us way back when. You can read all about it on Scribd: tinyurl.com/2pwa4wnp

tchambers,

@Albatross @starbreaker That is funny and wonderful.

They outlasted the lives of a number of real-world countries.

https://listverse.com/2017/11/05/10-of-the-shortest-lived-countries/

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    @mentallyalex @starbreaker @tchambers adding another: EVE Online since 2003.

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    @mentallyalex @starbreaker @tchambers I played briefly, greatly enjoyed it, but I just didn’t have enough time to play. It’s like having a second job! The stories that come out of it are always highly entertaining, though. Like this one: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/hilarious-spectacular-eve-betrayal-destroys-player-group-costs-trillions/

    mjf_pro,
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    @tchambers I knew the Metaverse had jumped the shark some years ago when Microsoft, trying to get into the space Facebook-Now-Meta had carved out, demoed (at an Ignite event no less!) disembodied-torso MSTeams avatars floating in-air like something out of Hogwarts …and tried to pass it off as A Serious Thing That Everyone Must Want.

    wtrmt,
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    @tchambers it's funny how huge consulting firms like Accenture Digital are still pushing the metaverse, even though very few use the technology.

    peteriskrisjanis,
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    @tchambers only good thing from all this imho is solid Oculus Quest 2 player base. Kit is actually really good and well priced. There are small niche but very interesting applications outside games, and they are slowly coming alive.
    As for metaverse it was such a farce that I don't know how it got past design stage. Also I just can't believe amount of money that black hole swallowed. Must be some 'fancy bookkeeping'.

    FinchHaven,

    @tchambers @thisismissem

    “Zuckerberg misled everyone, burned tens of billions of of dollars”

    “burned tens of billions of dollars”

    For every sell there is a buy

    For every loss there is a profit

    Double-entry accounting 101

    Where’d the “billions of dollars” go?

    They didn’t just vanish

    Who scored big?

    paulawirth,

    @tchambers kind of like a Frankenstein-like scientist who was never able to raise the dead in the first place, no matter how he posed the bodies…

    mimavox,

    @tchambers No sane person beleived in it.

    jokeyrhyme,
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    @tchambers what's truly depressing is how much good in the world all that money might have done, but instead, a billionaire unilaterally decided that this was how it should be spent/burnt

    chris,

    @tchambers Good. Now we can get back to productive work on it without worrying how it will be monetized first.

    joshualmccurry,

    @tchambers I think the meta verse is Zuck’s sophomore album and it’s become evident that his debut release was just lightning in a bottle. Sunk cost fallacy claims another self-styled tech visionary bozo.

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