@fox I’m pretty happy with proton—picked it on recommendation from my security-minded friend. Only downside for me is the calendar only works on web and iOS app. I’d like to use the desktop Calendar app.
@fox very happy proton customer here, haven’t quite cut out all the goog stuff but I’m well on my way and I miss absolutely nothing. Using mail, calendar and very happy with them. Keen for their drive product to get a native osx client (apparently soon). Also interested in giving their 1password alternative a trial but haven’t got around to it yet—probably will next time 1pw piss me off. Highly recommend.
@fox I’ve been using @fastmail for many years and you couldn’t pay me to switch. They also have masked emails which integrate directly into @1password. They strike the perfect balance between privacy and everything I need to replace Google or Apple for my email, calendars, and contacts.
@fox protonmail is quite good. i like that it lets you add multiple aliases and bring a personal domain too. the web UI is decent, the mobile UI is… ok.
@fox I’m using mailbox.org and they’re great. Best thing: Use a mail service which allows custom domains and use your own domain. Moving providers is a breeze then.
@fox Been a happy ProtonMail user for a few years. We’re on a family plan with a few custom domains now. The web and iOS clients are fairly slick in my opinion. The calendar is still a bit limited but they’re adding stuff all the time.
@fox Like many of the replies. I switched businesses email to Fastmail a couple of years ago, from gsuite too. I’m pretty happy with it all and the nice thing is if you’re using 1Password for password management you can do masked emails with Fastmail. Disposable emails for disposable services.
@fox Great thread. Thank you for asking this. I finally shuttered my last google dependency about three months ago by moving our shared family calendar to Proton. Works great and it was very easy to export all events at google, and load all at Proton.
@fox I moved to FastMail quite recently! I chose it over Proton because I wanted the domain freedoms without having to use a domain registrar that did catch-all email forwarding.
I now point a bunch of MX records at FastMail and I can properly email from all of them without it being some kind of "on behalf of" deal.
This whole post is interesting and your comment especially Sara - If I am understanding right, this means I can have multiple domains linked to one account? (Which is something I currently do with Google/Google Workspace plan)
@christian@fox yep! I paid around 150€ for 3 years of service, that gets you 30GB and I've got 3 domains set up with it currently - and all the aliases I want.
@fox I've been using proton mail for like 3 years and I think it's great ! The biggest problem would be that if you want to use something like Thunderbird, then you have to install an app that will decrypt your mails, and it's kinda awkward to use.
I switched like 50% to a domain/email provider with my own domain. They offer a webmail interface for it but I just use it in thunderbird. It costs 2€ / month, 2GB included. Spam filter works fine.
Not a single compatibility issue since the beginning (4?5? years)
Setup is easy, and my mails are stored in germany respecting all the laws.
I use strato for this, and for mails they are fine, if you want to do anything else with the domain, use someone else, like Ionos.
@fox protonmail is not bad and it comes with its ecosystem of VPN, drive, calendar etc. interface it's not bad and supports multiple aliases in a nice way
@fox like it seems everyone else who has replied, I’m very happy using Fastmail for email, been doing so for many, many years. I also store my calendars and contacts with them so I can avoid leaning on Apple a bit too.
@fox to be honest, back when I made the switch (10 years ago!) I wasn't aware of Proton.
These days, I'd probably still steer clear of them because - as I understand it - they use their own protocols rather than IMAP, CalDAV, etc, which means you're locked into their clients, and could make later migrations elsewhere painful.
@fox@pat the end to end encryption thing on proton is mostly a scam fwiw. Your data might be encrypted on the client side so they can’t see it, but they are also the ones serving that code, so they (or an attacker, or a state security agency) could just backdoor it without hassle anyway. Same caveats apply to the E2EE between Proton users, you are likewise trusting Proton as a key authority
@fox switched to Proton some years ago and never looked back. While their web and mobile app hasn’t been the most beautiful and functional ones for some time, they improved drastically and I really enjoy using them.
The only thing that really bugs me is the fact that there has been multiple outages over the last couple of months, and not just for some minutes but for hours services stopped working. It happens, sure, but personally Proton is the service for which it happens the most.
@misprintedtype@fox I'm also using Fastmail for years now and it's great. Their spam filter is excellent and the web interface is so good that I use it in a pinned tab instead of a mail client. Highly recommended.
@fox web UI is fine! I think like anything you just get used to what you use over time. It is fast and efficient, gmail even seems a bit fisher price to me now
@fox My live email address started becoming unusable due to spam, so I set up a fast mail. I like that the custom domain setup was straightforward, and I have no complaints about it otherwise so far :)
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