moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

i remind everyone that the house republican clown show is live on c-span and the vote to remove the speaker is next. if you’re into clown shows, now’s a good time to start streaming.

argv_minus_one,
@argv_minus_one@mstdn.party avatar

@moira Super appreciating the play-by-play! I don't think my anxious mind can handle actually watching C-SPAN, so you're doing me a favor here. 👍

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

it is a multiple stage clown show, so be aware there will be first a vote not to vote and then if they don’t vote not to vote then they will vote whether to vacate the chair and ditch their own speaker. then ALL they can do is vote on a new speaker and last time that took them 15 goes across a few days.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

i’m saying we don’t know how long the clown show is basically. no wait that’s wrong. we don’t know how long this episode of the clown show is. the clown show in general is FUCKING ETERNAL.

bring back jp patches because that was good and this is just tragic

TruthSandwich,

@moira

You know, if this was happening in some failed state, it would almost be funny.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

@TruthSandwich that “if” is carrying a looooooooot of weight here

TruthSandwich,

@moira

Should I have said, “if it was happening in some OTHER failed state”?

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

they have by the way not voted not to vote so now they are in fact going to vote but they have like an hour to argue about it first

there are speeches but they’re all 100% bullshit so really it’s a good time to get a hot dog

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

oh lol rep. cole just called the republican reps moving to remove the speaker “partisan”

dude

it’s your clown party

the clowns are calling from inside the car

and holy shit

there are so many clowns inside that car

paul_ipv6,

@moira

i think we're past even giving them as much credit as to call them clowns. they are just primates flinging their own feces at each other and screaming incoherently.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

i love how they’re still saying things like “I yield three minutes to my friend” and i’m like stfu foghorn leghorn and just vote already you absolute clusterfuck of shitheels

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

oh yeah there we go “hunter biden” lol

fucking molasses flood of thought-stopping fascist catchphrase memes

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

not funny reminder: the magats want to crash the economy assuming quite possibly correctly that low-info reactionary americans will do the usual dumbassery of voting for whoever isn’t in power, flicking the switch back and forth and ignoring what that actually does

abetterjulie,
@abetterjulie@wandering.shop avatar

@moira this is such an excellent way to phrase what happens.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

@abetterjulie It's what they do.

Not all Americans, not even a majority. But a lot. Enough.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

I love watching Republicans getting absolutely fucked by Republicans using Republican strategy against Republicans xD

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

no, matt gaetz, what americans are wondering is how a supermarionation villain got elected to the house

okay maybe that’s just me but he does look like an evil sylvia and gerry anderson character and i’m not wrong about that

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

oh yeah gaetz going in on putism and “fuck ukraine”

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

seven and three-quarters minutes remaining

what the hell is this some kind of old-timey stock market quote system?

oh my gods have they never decimalised?!

WOAH gaetz just called this a puppet show DOES HE KNOW? DID HE SEE THE STRINGS? DOES HE KNOW WHAT HE IS?!

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

Again, a bit more seriously: this really is Republicans demanding the same things Republicans have been demanding, and using Republican tactics to do it, which is: rule by minority, in this case, by a minority of the minority. No compromise, no such thing as a “loyal opposition”to work with, and if they don’t get it, they’ll break the House.

It’s “our country to rule, or no country to rule” writ ever more small.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

That making Gaetz speak from the Democratic side was to get pictures of him trying to throw out McCarthy while surrounded by the Evil Democrats.

If you're wondering what that was really about.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

Calling for a voice vote instead of machine vote is also about putting as much pressure as possible on the MAGAt insurgents.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

Realllly wondering whether and what kind of intense negotiations are happening right now off camera and whether any of them include Democrats.

I trust Hakeem but still - stand firm, Dems.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

Looks like they do include Democrats - or at least the Republicans want them to:

@GottaLaff https://mastodon.social/@GottaLaff/111172891887357480

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

Don't want to count chickens but this vote will take a while; if McCarthy is removed, I'm kinda thinking the closest to a "good" outcome here is an outside member gets elected as a caretaker Speaker and nothing past minimal housekeeping passes until 2025.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

The "very bad" outcome is that the Republicans flat out refuse to allow a new speaker and the MAGAts get what they want: a crashed economy in winter and spring 2024.

barney,
@barney@mas.to avatar

@moira

That's the problem. In 2022, we (the voters) gave control of the House to a party that is actively engaged in trying to overthrow the United States government, and that is knowingly conspiring with a foreign enemy to destroy our country. Our wretched, incompetent political press told us we should do that, because gas prices in the United States, like everywhere else in the world, were kind of high at the time.

It's not going to turn out well.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

It ain’t over ‘til it’s over but holy shit I think these fucks are pulling the trigger

project “crash the economy” is on

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

Are we done? Is McCarthy officially done?

blogdiva,
@blogdiva@mastodon.social avatar

@moira yup. they needed to reach 214 votes

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

@blogdiva oh yeah I knew I just was waiting for the hammer, excuse me, the gavel xD

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

damn he does not want to call it but he has to…

THE HOUSE HAS NO SPEAKER

moira, (edited )
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

No business can proceed now until a new speaker is elected. The US federal legislature is effectively suspended.

ETA: Not technically true, though they aren't going to be do anything until they've elected a new speaker. It's difference since some relatively-recent continuity-of-government changes. See here:

https://solarbird.dreamwidth.org/1938893.html?thread=7191501#cmt7191501

glitch25,
@glitch25@clacks.link avatar

@moira Wow. the Pro-Temp Chair SLAMMED that gavel to call recess..

paul_ipv6,

@moira

so the speaker can elect a pro tempore to run things temporarily? can mccarthy do that on his way out? if not, does some other office in the house move up to pro tempore?

yet another historic first i'd just as soon have not experienced personally in my lifetime...

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

@paul_ipv6 There’s also a speaker pro tempore before a speaker is elected after each election. Same job.

paul_ipv6,

@moira

and just saw that mchenry is it and does have limited power.

but you can get the GOP will continue to try to shut down the govt and fail to pass a budget again after mccarthy get the 45 day extension. what a mess.

paul_ipv6,

@moira

we've been learning so many obscure points of civics and governance in the last 7 years. the hard way...

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

@paul_ipv6 Some of us had to learn them a long time ago.

smellsofbikes,
@smellsofbikes@mastodon.social avatar

@moira the old adage about how when elephants fight it's the grass that loses is even more apt now.

Bodling,
@Bodling@deacon.social avatar

@moira Speaking as a human, there are some things is like them to do over the next year beyond the bare minimum.

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

@Bodling Sure? But everything "beyond" that is almost certainly going to be a nightmare, sooooooo...

paul_ipv6,

@moira

also in the "how does this keep happening"... whenever the economy has been bad, the GOP gets credit as "good with the economy" and gets a bump. even though most of the true economic disasters in the last 40 years have been of GOP manufacture. yet another reason why they feel that trashing the economy is in their best interest. bastards...

tompurl,
@tompurl@dads.cool avatar

@moira it's scary word salad served from an Old Country Buffet.

glitch25,
@glitch25@clacks.link avatar

@moira Pennywise is watching and going, "I got nothing..."

moira,
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar

@glitch25 lol xD

TruthSandwich,

@moira

This doesn’t not need no more negative negations.

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