The Fediverse is starting to feel unwelcoming to me as a person who has spiritual beliefs.
I agree that: Religion, like any philosophy, is often used as a tool of oppression. That is evil.
I hope you can agree with me that: People of Faith & Spiritual Humanists can be as awesome AND as awful as the members of ANY other group.
So ...
If ya'll could stop calling people like me stupid (or worse, fascist), I'd be appreciative. Many of us are out here fighting the baddies alongside you.
@RamenCatholic
Hard-line Atheism is by far the most intolerant religion of them all. What they say in the name of their not-god is unbelievable. They better start praying they are right about the afterlife, otherwise they have a might judgement coming.
@FiveSeventeen true, but some of 'these people' are otherwise very cool; they seem to be dealing with religious trauma, and I'd like to give 'em a chance to heal themselves without harming others. ❤️
I love your post. It's so good to know, that you are here.
I am convinced, that all humans on Earth can act together to make this a place, we can all live in peace.
It should not matter, that there are different believes or world views, as long as these accept the value of every human being & tolerate other believes.
(This is from someone, who's not a member of any 'school of religion' - but has friends in many different religions, interested in all of them)
@RamenCatholic Good posts. I think you're either set to be a believer, or you're not. A bit like you're either naturally good at music or maths, or you're not. But in all these cases for me, it depends entirely on whether you're a good person doing good things or not.
Some of us don't call names, but are here with a sincere desire to explore how people arrive at their beliefs. Please let me know if you're interested in a public discussion of your road to belief. Thanks.
@tomcapuder I'm a spiritual humanist, which (to me) is basically a fancy agnostic. The road that got me there was "being raised in a cult-lite" and walking away to find my own path.
I just lean towards there probably being some sort of Universal Consciousness of which we are all a part. If I'm right, cool. If I'm wrong, oh well; maybe I'll get it right next life.
How do you reconcile reason 1 with the science that indicates the effects of NDEs are generated by the brain's being deprived of oxygen? In other words, how do you know you "sensed it" accurately?
@tomcapuder I made a choice to believe it. Two things can be true at one time.
Perhaps an NDE is a form of a state of consciousness (like that achieved by meditation or entheogens) in which one can reach "God" or "the Source" or whatever.
And perhaps it was a delusion, but as long as I don't force anyone else to believe it ... then it's an essentially harmless way to view the universe with my puny human brain.
I don't believe that we have a "soul" or "spirit," by which I mean a sentient part of us independent of the brain that survives our physical death. I think that once the brain dies, game's over. So that's a big "no" on any kind of eternal life, IMO.
@RamenCatholic I’m learning to look for shared spiritual values in my friends with whom i do not share views on religion or politics. This mindset shift has been transformative.
@RamenCatholic "greed: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (such as money) than is needed" Merriam-Webster, excessive being the operative word. People are led to greed through ignorance in order to overcome this vulnerability we need #education universally. This not a justification it's a fact.
@RamenCatholic I would say people 'can' be greedy and like many aspects of humanity it can be manipulated by others. The way to take an insightful approach to choice is through #education which is also manipulated by a plutocratic "leadership"
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