Strandjunker,
@Strandjunker@mstdn.social avatar

Back before the Internet, we thought the reason for human stupidity was the lack of information options.

I’ll put it this way: That wasn’t it.

Mary625,
@Mary625@mstdn.social avatar

@Strandjunker

What is amazing to me is that people have not just become more ignorant and ill informed but are, literally, just dumber. It's not just the inability to think logically, critically, which can be taught, but we, in general, don't seem to have the capacity to learn.

I would love to know if there is a difference between the intelligence of people in countries where people actually eat well v people who eat all the factory farming and all the crap in and on the food.

TAI,
@TAI@mstdn.social avatar

@Strandjunker people have always gravitated towards their appetites, why assume it was the truth or facts? Some have a desire to be informed, to grow their minds. Some seek opinions to feed their notions over fact. Now there is just an abundance of information AND nonsense to choose from. Those who use it to remain fuckin idiots just drowns out the amazing benefits of access for some many who were left out.

AdeptVeritatis,
@AdeptVeritatis@social.tchncs.de avatar

@Strandjunker

What then? The ignorance, thinking it is about other people?

clayote,
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@AdeptVeritatis @Strandjunker I think it's propaganda! It benefits those in power for the majority of people to be incurious and vaguely reactionary, so school beats the curiosity out of us and teaches us that better things aren't possible.

AdeptVeritatis,
@AdeptVeritatis@social.tchncs.de avatar

@clayote

Curiosity ... 🤔

"the desire to gain knowledge or information" (wp)

  1. Information options are good for curiosity.

"is the driving force behind human development" (wp)
2. We need information options.

Curiosity is to look at things, which are there. And then you decide for yourself to keep them in the role model category or in the "I don't want that" category.

But curiosity isn't teaching. You aim at yourself.

AdeptVeritatis,
@AdeptVeritatis@social.tchncs.de avatar

@clayote

Curiosity doesn't say: "I know how to handle information options to not be stupid."
It doesn't want to be liked by the people, you sorted into the unpleasant category.
So it doesn't need to teach them, how good you are.

True curiosity is, what interests you.

Not what you think, other people might interest in you.

Commercials and propaganda play exactly with these triggers.
Yeah, and it reminds me on how I hated school for not letting me be how I am.

EdanOsborne,
@EdanOsborne@mstdn.social avatar

@Strandjunker Maybe it's all the lead and smoke we've been filling the air with since the 1800s.

zakalwe,
@zakalwe@plasmatrap.com avatar

@Strandjunker The most common reason for human stupidity is that stupidity is the low-effort option.

ferricoxide,

@zakalwe @Strandjunker

Depends how you account for effort. Acting stupid can be lower up-front effort, but the consequences of stupidity typically require more effort to either endure or correct ... even for the person that chose the path of stupidity. Unfortunately, "that's tomorrow men's problem" is also a pretty common approach to life.

zakalwe,
@zakalwe@plasmatrap.com avatar

@ferricoxide @Strandjunker Yup. Failing to consider consequences is part of the low-effort paradigm. All forms of "somebody else's problem" are part of the low-effort paradigm, including when "somebody else" is "future me". Low EFFORT doesn't necessarily mean low COST.

passenger,

@zakalwe @Strandjunker @ferricoxide

Not sure I'd agree. Low-effort can certainly mean poorly thought through; however there are some very high-effort ideas that are equally bad. QAnon, for example, is a very bad cluster of ideas which can hardly be said to be low-effort. If anything, it's far more complex than actual reality.

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