kaia,
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I'm following the first YouTube account that uses a synthetic voice and presumably also generates its content with AI help. and it's still a good channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ixHi2_LLk

duckwhistle,
@duckwhistle@mastodon.org.uk avatar

@kaia "the first" not likely. People have been putting videos with synthetic voices on YouTube almost as long as the site has existed. Text to Talk technology has been around for decades.
As for AI scripting I would be very surprised if that wasn't being used on YouTube within weeks of it being available.

kaia,
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@duckwhistle
I'm not a native speaker. I meant it's the first such account I follow :comfy_cirno:

duckwhistle,
@duckwhistle@mastodon.org.uk avatar

@kaia
Ah OK, I would never have guessed from your profile.

May I suggest "My first" would make that clear.

vaartis,
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@kaia i regret looking through the channel's contents now

kaia,
@kaia@brotka.st avatar

@vaartis sorry I should have CWd that. they want that YT money by any means

lain,
@lain@lain.com avatar

@kaia this technology is great for non-native english speakers, or those that just odn't have a good voice. I'm all for it, although the current AI voices tend to be not the most expressive.

kaia,
@kaia@brotka.st avatar

@lain how come fake videos of e.g. Jordan Peterson sound word-perfect (not the cut up ones, the AI ones), but these voices still sound like a robot?

lain,
@lain@lain.com avatar

@kaia elevenlabs voices made form actual speech samples are usually better at capturing the speech style. for base models, you often have to crank up the 'expressiveness' slider and that can become very unnatural too, so you have to regenerate until you get a good take.

lain,
@lain@lain.com avatar

@kaia and there's also the possibility of just changing the voice and not wholly generating it, that will keep the basic speech patterns of the original speaker

kaia,
@kaia@brotka.st avatar

@lain that makes sense, thanks :comfy_cirno:

making 10 min videos on first glance seems much nicer than what I currently do with Amazon books where I have to have 50-100 pages.

but on second glance the required consistency and quality required to be picked up by the algorithm is a full time job.

and I can't do the probably most lucrative ways to do this for moral and family reasons.

lain,
@lain@lain.com avatar

@kaia i don't think the mindset of "i could be much more successful if I was a worse person" is a good one to have

cell,
@cell@pl.ebin.zone avatar

@lain @kaia does this imply that one should be without any moral scruples when hustling, or just be your best while doing your best and may success in its many forms come to you :cat_eyebrow:

lain,
@lain@lain.com avatar

@cell @kaia I think it fosters something in your mind that I think is a misunderstanding that's bad for your character and for success: That being successful involves being 'bad' or 'evil' somehow. The best way to be successful is to provide the most value to the most people, not to trick and cheat. Having the 'I would be succesful if only I wasn't such a good person' meme makes you resent succesful people ("she could only get there because she doesn't care about morals"), makes you lethargic by giving you a good excuse to never do anything ("i'm not doing well but that's to be expected because I'm a good person") and prevents you from learning from others.

I think you should always try to be as morally correct as you can be in whatever you do, there's no special dispensation for 'business'.

Moon,
@Moon@shitposter.club avatar

@lain @kaia @cell relevant book:

lain,
@lain@lain.com avatar

@Moon @kaia @cell this is now officially the thread for intellectuals.

Listened to this yesterday, a comparison of the lives and thoughts of nietzsche and dostoevsky, i found it very interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx7T_NrL36Y

aven,
@aven@shitposter.club avatar

@lain @kaia @cell I agree with this sentiment regarding morality, but there's an important nuance in this particular case.

While TTS and translation are good for non-native english speakers, using AI to generate full scripts in often evil, and I suspect that might be what's being done here.

I've encountered this kind of auto-generated content before, a TTS voice reading Wikipedia or MSM articles, with stock video in the background that is relevant to the words in the script (which can be very funny when it portrays a turn-of-phrase or expression in the script with video).

But this video had zero original research, and is entirely MSM journo smear pieces about Notch, set to a combination of footage from the documentary "Minecraft: The Story of Mojang" and stock video.

It re-churns the churnalism into a new medium, and may have been generated by a bot and massaged by a human.

The channel's other content reveals it to be a clickbait algorithm farm.

So mind that most of what you learned in that video about Notch being evil was written by evil journos as smear, and has been uncritically copy-pasted to the video.

VD15,
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@lain @kaia I've also seen some actual true crime youtubers phoning it in and using AI of themselves for their voice overs. It's really hard to tell a lot of the time, especially if they had a monotone voice to begin with. But occasionally you'll hear a really odd pronunciation that a native English speaker would never make or they just read off a number as individual digits. I also swear I know at least one who sounds like they're mixing their real voice in with the AI one so it's less immediately noticeable.

I get why they do it though and I don't really have an ethical problem if it's your voice. Recording multiple hour long videos a week must be hell on your throat.

Moon,
@Moon@shitposter.club avatar

@VD15 @kaia @lain > But occasionally you'll hear a really odd pronunciation that a native English speaker would never make

fascinating, I didn't realize this is why that happens, haha. I just assumed that it was people not realizing what some word was pronounced. I worked with a guy that always pronounced the word "subsequent" as "sub SEE quent"

Ukko,
@Ukko@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Moon @kaia @lain @VD15 wait that's not a correct way to pronounce it? :blobcatscared:

kaia,
@kaia@brotka.st avatar

@Moon @lain @VD15
wait, it's NOT sub see quent? :blobcatsweat:

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