ernie, 3 months ago

@slightlyoff FWIW I called this out last week. You’re 100% right https://tedium.co/2024/02/15/apple-web-apps-eu-regulations/

slightlyoff, 3 months ago

The press coverage of the situation has been atrocious. Apple's out here trying to shiv the best chance for an alternative to the App Store, breaking civic and public sector tech along the way, and the press is doing Cupertino press release stenography.

Folks who publish on websites are whistling past the open plot as Apple plans of the demise of the web's potential.

sebastix, 3 months ago

@slightlyoff It’s so frustrating

https://sebastix.nl/blog/apple-is-killing-webapps-pwas-power-play-against-the-eu/

slightlyoff, 3 months ago

@sebastix @owa is running a brand new survey to assess damage that Apple is likely to do; if you can, spread the news far and wide:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1PaDs_7stzLKUdOKJalxXljESb8nrVkJRO3w9TkxeYbY/viewform

jake4480, 3 months ago

@slightlyoff I honestly can't believe people have put up with Apple's bs for THIS long 😂

promovicz, 3 months ago

@slightlyoff Yeah - they're being monopolist crybabies, while this could be a chance to get PWAs to all browser engines, and improve security for all browsers. Just them protecting their interests. DoC should have them for a hearing like Bill Gates in 1998.

jens, 3 months ago

@slightlyoff They've gone to war with Google. Google owns the web. We're just collateral damage.

benjohn, 3 months ago

@jens @slightlyoff I think if they didn’t like Google to that degree, they’d stop them being default search - and taking their money for that.

Google largely have apps for their properties.

PWA’s are one of the decent ways for alternative smaller places to be great on mobile and live on the / a Home Screen.

jens, 3 months ago

@benjohn @slightlyoff You have to think of it in terms of platforms competing for market share.

Google is backing the web, because with its tracking tech and browser monopoly, it can monetize what we do there.

Apple is backing native apps because they monetize that via their app store. PWAs or websites bypass their monetization scheme.

Clearly both companies need to draw us their way, and by extension away from the other platform. That's a war (competition).

jens, 3 months ago

@benjohn @slightlyoff Google has their own apps in the app store, and Apple uses Google's search engine - in this way they can give the other a comparatively smaller amount of money and convince observers they're not abusing their respective monopolies over the ecosystem they each overwhelmingly dominate. It's kind of the same as Google funding Mozilla.