The hate on Bluesky is on a completely different level. I'm Iraqi Moroccan Israeli Jewish and someone told me to get back to Brooklyn (where I have never been and have never known anyone in). Every single thing I say about my own family experience surviving the massacre is "debunked". You can't debunk my literal life experience lmao. I didn't say one word against Palestinians, I only said the victims of the massacre matter - this is literally all I've said, and I got neverending hate comments.
@skaly what really saddens me about the times we live in is that there's no middle ground.
People are either in favour or against, they either belong to a clan or the other.
No critical thinking, no second degree, it looks like everyone is acting like a social megaphone.
Frankly there are very few issues for which my own opinion is carved in stone. So I avoid most political debates.
Once on IG I got many hateful replies for just pointing out that China isn't a democracy. I merely stated a fact.
There is no middle ground with terrorists, that's why we fight Hamas. Sadly it causes such heartbreaking damage. Israelies now and before, always wanted peace, offered peace endlessly. Unfortunately, the Palestinian leadership in 1948 proudly said they are taking The Final Solution in their hands. My Zionist family moved in peacefully after being violently hate crimed in Morocco, Iraq, Spain, Portugal, Italy and of course, exiled by the Romans from Judea.
If you look for similarities to Nazism, you will find it in Palestinian homes. Gaza had a Hitler 2 shop until IDF recently took it down - it had puppets with knives at the windows.
We are finding Hitler books everywhere in children's bedrooms and Hamas literature.
Jews now and before as a people always wanted to just exist in peace. None of us like the destruction to Palestinians, obviously outside of some, but they don't represent Israelies and have 0 to do with Zionism
@paulschoe@s1m0n4 As to sources to clarify. My family survived the massacre. My uncle invented the iron dome. Almost everyone I know in Israel served in the IDF as it's required by law (I'm the exception due to health reasons).
This land is not theirs or ours alone. This land is to be shared. But it can not be shared with anyone who wants to slaughter everyone on the other side. It can be shared with most Palestinians I believe. Not with Hamas.
@paulschoe@skaly When Hitler killed millions the middle ground was brilliantly exposed by Hannah Arendt. And she paid a very high price for this. Massacres are indeed despicable crimes, however the circumstances allowing them to happen may not be so easy to understand.
And it's exactly when we stop thinking about the possible circumstances, when we just accept that one is evil and the other is a victim, that the critical thinking disappears.
@s1m0n4 It is natural for people to be biased towards one or other direction. But what we lack is moderation. If people would try to look things through other's point of view as well before contradicting them, then a lot of misunderstandings would be avoided.
@petrescatraian@skaly Personally I don't think it's natural to be biased. It's social conditioning, not something we were born with.
And many people in real life make the effort to understand a different POV, while on social media everything is just so polarized that it's not even debate. Time 2 seconds and it's personal attacks.
@s1m0n4@skaly yea, on social media everyone just feels attacked and cannot be polite in countering your arguments.
When people speak F2F, indeed, their tone basically changes. This is why my rule of thumb is generally to speak to people just like I'd have them in front of me 😁
Personally I don't think it's natural to be biased.
I don't know. I think that it's easy to tank towards one position or another. Because we all have some personal values and some aspirations, and we feel some things are personally affecting us. It's the self-moderation that requires the biggest intellectual effort, as well as getting into the other person's skin efficiently.
@skaly Tragically frustrating, as the person above said, there's no middle ground. You're going to get pilloried if you lend support to either side, or both.
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