Every few weeks the same thing with Signal for Mac. Same for WhatsApp. Only iMessage gets this right and treats non-phone devices as first-class clients that can actually log in on their own.
@gruber and telegram which is where most of the other apps copy their features from, highly recommend it but yeah it’s not very popular in America I guess
@gruber hell of a lot easier to use texts.com. Not a native client unfortunately. But it doesn’t seem to have this problem. And you get the added benefit of a clean social inbox 😅
@gruber I suffer from this all the time, especially with WhatsApp, which I don't use every day. Also with Signal on my second MacBook, which is often closed for days at a time. On my primary Mac, however, where Signal is open 24/7, there are no problems.
@gruber I went to start signal on my iPhone recently, had been a while but I’ve used it previously on there, and it basically forced me to toss all my conversation history and existing contacts by asserting it needed to re-link — except my iPhone is the master link, so bye bye everything.
The worst part isn't the time it takes to reconnect the Mac client to the iPhone “master" client. It's that because of the way Signal works, the Mac client is then forever missing whatever messages came in since last it was properly connected to Signal.
@gruber Also the reason signal works like this is to fix a very real loophole in e2e - backups. iMessage backups are opt-in for encryption and require two pieces of apple hardware and a paid subscription. Anyone using iCloud backup or iMessage sync without advanced data protection (which is most) might as well be unencrypted
@gruber Tbh government intervention/monitoring is the #1 thing we should be worried about when it comes to messaging privacy. Who else would care to look? I think about those people in jail because of messenger data handed over to the government about having abortions in illegal states
@tweece But no government can “monitor” iCloud backups. Again, I agree it's an issue, and I'd like to see Apple move iMessage backups for everyone to E2EE.
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