fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

Reminder: American Jews are 2.4% of all Americans and most of us are Democrats who disapprove of Israel's current far right government. Trump is playing on the ancient antisemitic dual-loyalty myth and creating an excuse for conservatives to ignore actual Jewish voices. The moment you say something like "Jews are the real antisemites," you're just a nazi saying nazi shit.

Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/18/us/politics/trump-israel-jewish-voters.html?unlocked_article_code=1.dk0.84wb.AIbp-r9cayXx&smid=url-share

Npars01,
@Npars01@mstdn.social avatar

@fraying

Republican megadonors are funding massive malign influence campaigns to divide and conquer democracy.

Antisemitic tropes. Anti-democracy narratives. They all have the same funding from the same oligarchs.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/election-deniers-refuse-certify-chaos-2024-1234988747/

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

@Npars01 YUP

martlund,

@fraying If it starts with "trump says" we should move on.

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

@martlund I wish we had that luxury, but until he’s dead or defeated, we do not.

futurebird,
@futurebird@sauropods.win avatar

@fraying

... Everything you just said. But also the "head" of the Democratic party is the most pro-rubber-stamp whatever the current Israeli government guy wants person ever. This is like funding defense, there isn't much diversity between the parties on this issue.

Though there have been some shifts.

And Jewish people can have... different opinions, because they are people who have opinions. (wow controversial)

jewishreader,
@jewishreader@sfba.social avatar

@fraying Nice to see a post where I can block people both to my right and allegedly to my left in the replies 😂

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

@jewishreader sorry / you’re welcome?

jewishreader,
@jewishreader@sfba.social avatar

@fraying It's the inevitable result of posting something reasonable about Jews/Israel.

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar
fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

If you see an American Jew talking about how he doesn’t support the far right Israeli government and jump in to call him a genocide supporter, you’re doing an antisemitism. You also have shit for brains and I will tell you to fuck off.

xoxoxoxo,

@fraying sorry but the rhetoric of "most of us are Democrats who disapprove of Israel's current far right government" itself is deceitful because it pretends that it's only the "far right government" that is the problem and not the nature of israel being a colonial apartheid ethnostate that requires perpetual violence and oppression to uphold an artificial majority over the natives it tries to ethnically cleanse.

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

@xoxoxoxo fuck off

sophiaqt,

@fraying instead of responding with a civilized and articulate argument, you resort to insults and cowardly block him. that's because you know for a fact that his analysis is spot on regarding israel. shame on you derek, keep supporting your beloved genocidal apartheid ethno state that is still committing genocide as we speak. spineless immoral weasel

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

@sophiaqt no, it’s because he’s changing the subject and you are too. You’re also assuming things about me I have not said. And you’re not helping anyone by attacking a stranger on the internet.

kissane,
@kissane@mas.to avatar

@fraying @sophiaqt sockpuppet tho

xoxoqt,

@kissane @fraying @sophiaqt
the framing of "it's just israel's right wing government" is just BS and you all know this, israel is a colonial project which is the root issue and trying to hide this fact with deceptive rhetoric is just dishonest. now keep blocking and run back into your safe spaces and echo chambers you weak fragile losers.

InkySchwartz,
@InkySchwartz@mastodon.social avatar

@xoxoqt @kissane @fraying @sophiaqt
Ah look, we found another left wing antisemite who has no idea about context.

You going to try to "Final Solution" all the Jews when internet hate doesn't work?

Alon,
@Alon@mastodon.social avatar

@InkySchwartz @xoxoqt @kissane @fraying @sophiaqt Have you seen the alt-left ever do anything? They just talk, is what makes them so funny, unlike actual Nazis and modern equivalents (AfD, Nazbols, Hamas, etc.).

sophiaqt,

@fraying you can fuck off derek, you are a hypocrite and a genocide supporter
https://youtu.be/ehp9PZo4UR0

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

@sophiaqt you don’t know the first thing about me.

escarpment,
@escarpment@mastodon.online avatar

@fraying I'm an American Jew, Democrat, Biden supporter. Despise Trump. Uneasy about Israel's government but think Israel is justified in Gaza and think the "free Palestine" / "stop genocide" protestors are deeply ignorant and misguided.

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar
xoxoxoxo,

@escarpment @fraying or in other words you are a soft zionist who is slightly less unhinged about the fact that he/she supports apartheid and ethnic cleansing. it's not those who protest genocide that are "deeply ignorant" or "misguided" but rather you being deeply immoral and delusional. the evidence is undeniable. you're basically engaging in the equivalent of holocaust denial to defend your little apartheid occupation's genocidal rampage. https://youtu.be/3xottY-7m3k

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

@xoxoxoxo @escarpment nope. We’re not doing this in here.

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